Walter Scott, George Floyd... maybe things are changing!!

[WarGamer]

With the advent of cell phones and concerned citizens, murderers are being sent to prison.

And note the majority-white nature of protests and juries sending bad cops to prison.

These things would NEVER happen 20 years ago.

[RockRaven]

1. Back when that BART cop killed Oscar Grant, he was one of the first cops ever even *charged*

with murder for an on duty shooting in California (though ultimately convicted of involuntary manslaughter), or so the reporters said at the time (2009). That too was caught on cell phone video.

[WarGamer]

3. I hesitate to say...

But can you IMAGINE HOW MANY people were shot and killed by cops before cell phones "because he reached for his waist" Or "I thought he had a knife"??

The number must be HUGE.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. Cops killed a 15-year-old girl in Columbus as the verdict was

being read.

[WarGamer]

4. messed up... I get the whole "knife is a deadly weapon" thing

But why not taze her?

[uponit7771]

5. The "change" is in technology not PDs attitude towards serving communities

[WarGamer]

6. If enough are prosecuted... it will OBVIOUSLY change.

[uponit7771]

7. We can prosecute all of them who are not doing their job and they will still think they are right

... The leadership in a lot of PDs are horrible and that needs to change first along with impunity

[WarGamer]

8. I choose to believe things are getting better every day

[uponit7771]

9. We agreed things are getting better I don't see that in the attitudes of offending PDs

[uponit7771]

10. Chris Hayes is going over this very subject, there's been little statutory changes federally

[regnaD kciN]

11. As Theodore Roosevelt put it...

..."If you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow."

They may still think they're right, but, if they get enough examples of their fellow cops being sentenced to hard time for their actions, they'll have no choice but to clean up their act, however reluctantly.

Of course, that's all dependent on the judicial system being willing to take a strict line on such cases. I can think of a lot of states and/or counties where that is unlikely at this time. We can only hope that this verdict will be the impetus for a "sea change" in the way of how police are held responsible, but I suspect it will take some time for that to happen everywhere.

[uponit7771]

12. That's just the thing, the evidence here had to be unreasonably clear for justice to happen and

... people still celebrated when it was unusually clear.

This sends the message that unless there's > than 8 mins of sitting on a persons neck and 34 angles and 1234 different officer on the prosecutions side the LEO will get let go.

I'm joyful for the justice and pray this is a start

[Grasswire2]

13. and then tonight a black girl was killed by cops -- four shots.

She had called for help saying someone in her house was attacking her. She had a knife in her hand when police arrived, and they killed her.

[WarGamer]

14. Let's wait for the body cam footage...

[Grasswire2]

15. reporting

[link:https://www.thedailybeast.com/columbus-police-fatally-shoot-a-person-as-derek-chauvin-guilty-verdict-comes-down?fbclid=IwAR2axRvk2dOC0T0oDS2t1GCJvlob-ACJfUC1vQA1-huJg23YadNKvPlVyO8|

[WarGamer]

16. IF witnesses described correctly...

Here we go again...

[uponit7771]

17. "The white police officer who shot her never told her to put down the knife, according to Jones."

... jus FUCK !!

Bet good money body cam footage is missing, I swear they doing this shit on purpose !!!

[WarGamer]

18. Like I said... IF that's true... we have problems.

I'm not sure telling her to put it down even justifies it.

Unless she was rushing the cop, knife over her head, I'm not sure it'd be justified.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.

[uponit7771]

19. +1,