Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus
"So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible — but very, very low likelihood that they're going to transmit it," Fauci said.
Fauci added that vaccinated people essentially become "dead ends" for the virus to spread within their communities.
"When you get vaccinated you not only protect your own health and that of the family, but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community," Fauci said. "In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around the virus is not going to go anywhere. And that's when you get a point that you have a markedly diminished rate of infection in the community."
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/553773-fauci-vaccinated-people-become-dead-ends-for-the-coronavirus
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It's like, a few days ago, there were 2 kinds of people: responsible people wearing masks and getting vaccinated and science denying, conspiracy believing fuckwits without masks. Now, all of a sudden, the CDC is changing the rules. How can they NOT expect us to be confused af?
I'm fully vaccinated, but for now, I'm on the fence about masking. I'm going to continue wearing a mask indoors for now. Outdoors, I may not. It may depend on the circumstances.
My hesitancy about unmasking has little to do with whether I feel personally safe. I DO feel safe. But for the past 14 months, wearing a mask has been a badge of honor that I'm reluctant to let go of. I don't want people to think I'm one of those science denying, conspiracy believing fuckwits! 
He is actually a grand nephew ... in his 20s. Got the 2nd shot last week near where I live and came by for a visit. He was wearing a "vintage" T shirt put out by some Pro wrestling guy who's saying toward any challenge was "Just Bring It".
He said it wore it specific as a way of telling Covid who is boss ... and then stood up and did that wrestling guy's move. Had me really laughing. Great kid.
Still can't figure out how 1990 something is "vintage" 
I believe Dr. Fauci would only say this if he's sure of his facts.
I want to believe that vaccinated people cannot be carriers, infecting otherwise healthy people. But I'm not sure if they've done enough testing yet. It's been 5 or 6 months that vaccinated people have been out in public, and there aren't many reports of breakout infections yet. So that is a good sign but it doesn't prove that we vaccinated adults can't infect others.
I use their money for 28 days and then pay the bill in full. They've never made interest off me.
Years ago I learned they call people like me deadbeats. Maybe they can be friends with Covid ... since, you know ... Covid thinks I'm a deadbeat too.
Never pass on juicy conspiracy theories, never have to pay late fees, keep cars til the wheels fall off, buy new clothes only when necessary. I'm obviously not a good American!
I got used to ignoring CDC when traitor politicized it. I'll check the links
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You & I both got blisters yesterday for pointing out that for 15 months DUers were all about following the science until the science told us that getting the vax makes things much less dangerous. Science is good until it says something some don't like.
This latest reactionary phenom also reminds me of the threads last summer full of posts insisting they'd refuse any vaccine developed while Individual One was in office, regardless of what scientists said.
That was followed, completely predictably, by the "unfair" reaction when it wasn't immediately available to them. Followed by, well, on and on. This one too will pass, to be followed by...?
I'm just surprised more people don't die of their heads exploding. Someone really should write an ode to the skull. It's not just for protecting us from falling on our heads.
...is whiplash! Or a torn ACL.
Changing direction that violently can hurt something! 
The new CDC ruling regarding masks is based on an honor system. There are those who have not been vaccinated -- some are anti-vaxxers -- who intend to discard the mask -- if they even wore it in the first place. I don't care for the potential of being suddenly exposed to folks who may be asymptomatic or harboring an active case of Covid, even though I have been fully vaccinated. It is less worry for me to continue wearing the mask than for me to worry about my immune system being overloaded by anonymous exposure to the virus. According to the CDC, 36.7 percent of the country's population have been vaccinated. That's no where near what is needed to attain herd immunity -- which threshold is at least 80 percent of the population of the U.S. fully vaccinated. Most folks who have been fully vaccinated are older/elderly. Although older myself, my typical interaction in public is with folks who are younger -- in the age ranges of those with lower vaccination rates. (I live in New Jersey, the most densely populated state with 1,211.3 people per square mile. New Jersey was on lock-down from March 21st through June 9th, 2020. And when it was over, Gov. Murphy ordered that masks be worn in *and* outdoors. It broke the hump of the infection curve like nothing else.)
The New York Times: Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely in the U.S., Experts Now Believe
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html
Some folks are of the opinion that the CDC made this change in mask wearing in order to encourage those who have not been vaccinated to wear masks. People can be as stubborn as mules and some have taken umbrage to be pressured about something that they could just be on the fence about. As a poster cleverly observed, folks who have been vaccinated can wind up wearing masks while those who haven't received their shots won't. The new CDC edict would have achieved the exact opposite of what was intended. 
My other concern is about the virus raging out of control in some places, giving it free reign to morph into variants more resistant to vaccination immunity. We are far from a perfect world when it comes to exposure of those sickened by this virus. As long as international air transportation continues, we are all at some risk, as far as I am concerned. I live only several miles and/or driving distances from international airports. As we well know, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is an international hitch hiker. A mere two months after the virus emerged in Wuhan, it was hitting Swiss resorts in February, 2020.
Indian variant: People arriving from India spent hours in busy Heathrow queues close to other travelers
https://inews.co.uk/news/arrivals-from-india-spent-hours-in-heathrow-queues-insanity-close-to-other-passengers-says-ex-pat-1002477
But, not by the virus.
continue mitigation efforts. And of course mitigation efforts will continue. And human nature won't change, we can sure agree on that, but many individuals are changing and will change their behaviors. We'll see how it goes.
I always enjoy reading your posts and don't need to check you on anything. Many of us have made predictions but yours are more detail based than most. On the big things we tend to agree No surprise when we're living the same event. We knew what was going to happen when we watched some of the people arriving from overseas allowed to just disperse across the nation.
You mention Fauci a lot. I didn't expect Dr. Fauci's recommendations to be what they should have been under Trump because I knew Trump's corrupt administration did not allow him and other lead government epidemiologists to do the job they were supposed to. We all did.
Of course there was a great deal of controversy over Dr. Fauci choosing to do his best to affect decisions and messaging from inside Trump's administration, a decision he likely reconsidered seriously almost every day. I respect his grim decision to depend on the many independent experts and news services to keep the nation better informed while he did his best for the many millions he knew would only listen to what came out of Trump's WH. I always considered the source and the exigencies and got my information from independent experts.
Same for the CDC under Trump, bitterly corrupted under the people Trump appointed to lie for him and keep it from doing its job properly, until he was able to just gut it. Which the appointees' public announcements kept proving, while inside good people tried desperately to do what they could.
Bad days. Tragic. We're still battling and living and dying with their effects, including the explosive epidemic of anti-science and anti-expertise sociopathy. But that was Trump era, and I'm in no danger of forgetting that the Biden administration's first great priority is to stop the pandemic and restore normality.
Hope it's as pretty outside where you are as here this morning. Gorgeous!
It doesn't interest me to formulate mitigation and containment policy I feel the nation should have if only. Even if I could, that horse has left the gate.
I really do have a higher level of trust that good people will try to do their best under circumstances that don't allow it and had acceptance all along that under Trump/Repubs all options to battle their holocaust would be deeply flawed and inadequate and that partial achievements to avoid total failure would be the best we could expect.
My distrust is for others who've earned it so grievously. If all those unhappy with the consequences of their own bad decisions had voted for Hillary, at very least half a million people in our nation alone would still be alive, probably hundreds of thousands more. Few of those who've proved themselves dreadfully untrustworthy and incompetent will have paid the ultimate cost of throwing her competence and commitment to the gutter, of in some cases literally choosing for RW depravity. No point in expecting repentance in those incapable, though, or future trustworthiness, and I don't.
We've still to count our dead; but back to moving forward in already much happier times, sounds like your graduation was as everyone would want it to be. Our older AR grandson has just been vaccinated, and soon he and others will be picked up and taken to get their new lockers, gear, etc, ahead of opening of the high school they'll be attending. He and his friends are all over the moon that it's actually happening. His little brother's level can't be vaccinated yet, and they're still out of luck for group activities. Maybe by or around the beginning of the school year, hope, hope!
As for us, Have Vaccination, Will Travel. Masks on board for places they're still required or needed. And this is GA. "Needed" to try to protect others will be a lot of places.
You see "we" refusing to do what we need to do. I see nothing of the sort. For one, under Trump and under Biden are two extremely different realities. For another, I'm one of many tens of millions who even under Trump never proved to anyone that we couldn't be trusted to do the right thing. Somehow you've conflated us all with the worst of us, and it's caused huge deviations between your and my views of what's happening.
I see most people sensibly doing what they need to do and what is right toward others, without needing orders. I see some too normally disengaged and ignorant to know what to think and do when it really matters, but most motivated by self preservation. And then there's the minority of mean, angry far-right wingers who created their Der Leader monster to smash our nation for them and lead them to do the unthinkable, like spread lethal disease out of political malice.
But, even those latter have not stayed entirely out of control, bitterly as they've resented the many businesses and and workplaces requiring masks. But they still have a great deal of political power in many states, and attempts to impose strong, uniform federal action would be refused and drive many of those states to further defiance.
Nevertheless, even if the Biden admin's actions are necessarily limited and politically strategic due to the renegade Republican Party, my viewpoint sees many big forces pulling our direction, and being encouraged and coordinated as much as possible. Not least is the need for business in even the reddest states to function, and without killing customers and staffs. And that requires continued vaccination and other mitigation and containment actions, pushed by businesses and governments who have the legal and practical power to do it. We will be seeing that happen, and I do not believe current reports of how many will continue to refuse to be vaccinated.
"Over 70 Percent of Older U.S. Adults Are Fully Vaccinated -- In some U.S. counties, nearly all people over 65 are vaccinated."
"Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) guidance has confirmed employers may require a COVID-19 vaccination as a condition of employment and/or to return to the workplace."
"Most U.S. companies will require proof of Covid vaccination from employees" (A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination, according to an ASU/Rockefeller Foundation survey. Overall, 44% will require all employees to get vaccinated)"
"Biden warns that states with low Covid vaccination rates may see cases rise again"
