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catbyte

(34,335 posts)
Mon May 17, 2021, 07:42 AM May 2021

Trump Has Blown Off Rudy Giuliani's Pleas for Help as Feds Circle

Giuliani appears to be in hot water, and his allies keep asking for Trump’s help. But so far, the ex-president isn’t willing to ride to the rescue of his one-time lawyer.

Adam Rawnsley, Senior Researcher
Asawin Suebsaeng, Senior Political Reporter

Updated May. 17, 2021 7:33AM ET

In the weeks since the feds raided Rudy Giuliani’s apartment and office in late April, close allies have tried to ferry a slew of emergency requests to former President Donald Trump and his advisers.

But according to three people familiar with the matter, Trump, as well as several of his legal advisers and longtime confidants, have been hesitant about swooping in to help the embattled Giuliani, who for years worked as Trump’s personal lawyer, a political adviser, and attack dog. Giuliani also served as a major player in the Trump-Ukraine scandal and as a key driver in the former president’s efforts to nullify Joe Biden’s clear victory in the 2020 election.

Team Trump’s reluctance to intervene comes at a time when federal investigators have ramped up their probe into whether Giuliani’s Ukraine-related work during the Trump era amounted to an unregistered and illegal lobbying operation on behalf of foreign figures. So far, no charges have been brought against the former New York City mayor as a result of this investigation, which began in 2019. Trump’s silence has led to simmering frustrations among members of Giuliani’s inner orbit, who privately allege that the ex-president’s team is working to convince him to hang Giuliani out to dry in his hour of need.

“It’s a question now of whether or not [the former president and his team] want to leave Rudy to fend for himself or if they’re going to take a stand against this,” one person close to Giuliani said last week. “Right now, we don’t know.”

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-has-blown-off-rudy-giulianis-pleas-for-help-as-feds-circle
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Trump Has Blown Off Rudy Giuliani's Pleas for Help as Feds Circle (Original Post) catbyte May 2021 OP
I don't like to see a caged animal. But, ... NCjack May 2021 #1
Rudy who? Is he the guy who used to get coffee for us? Jim__ May 2021 #2
I don't get it.... essaynnc May 2021 #3
Perhaps Rudy murielm99 May 2021 #5
Mutual assured destruction! They've both got nukes soothsayer May 2021 #11
Everyone who is carrying water for Trump should pay attention to this. smirkymonkey May 2021 #4
You mean they didn't expect this? malaise May 2021 #13
If they expected it, would they still be kissing his fat orange ass? smirkymonkey May 2021 #16
Sorry, Rooody. You superglued your lips to the wrong ass. nt Buns_of_Fire May 2021 #6
Hey Rudy, you knew he was a snake when you let him in... GoCubsGo May 2021 #7
Take a stand against it? What exactly is Trump supposed to do? Thrill May 2021 #8
he has hundreds of millions of dollars raised for stop the steal legal fees... getagrip_already May 2021 #17
Under the bus, Rudy Colludy. Deal with it. Champp May 2021 #9
I think the orange one knows Rudy's too compromised , duforsure May 2021 #10
Michael Cohen called it RIGHT... ProudMNDemocrat May 2021 #12
How exactly is he supposed to help him? jcgoldie May 2021 #14
Rudy has asked him for help with legal bills & been turned down. That's the only help Trump tblue37 May 2021 #18
rudy wants $$$, he is broke... n/t getagrip_already May 2021 #20
"Meet me Four Seasons." Kid Berwyn May 2021 #15
Loyalty Street is One Way, Rudy. SergeStorms May 2021 #19
Trump said "it's not my call"...... getagrip_already May 2021 #21
When he calls tRump he's dialing a big fat smelly butt Blue Owl May 2021 #22
Every lawyer in NYC knew the truth about Trump except Rudy: Tomconroy May 2021 #23
The only surprising thing about this story ... Whiskeytide May 2021 #24
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #25
Maybe we'll see yet see that "insurance" the Ghouliani was bragging about... nt. Pluvious May 2021 #26

essaynnc

(799 posts)
3. I don't get it....
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:01 AM
May 2021

Rudy has to know where many of the bodies are buried..... they seem to be pretty unconcerned....

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
5. Perhaps Rudy
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:05 AM
May 2021

has many buried bodies of his own. They could threaten him and he could threaten them. They are avoiding mutual threats.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. Everyone who is carrying water for Trump should pay attention to this.
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:04 AM
May 2021

He is NOT going to protect you if and when the blade comes down. If you get caught, you are on your own. He will always find some reason why you were not loyal enough to him.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. If they expected it, would they still be kissing his fat orange ass?
Mon May 17, 2021, 09:02 AM
May 2021

They all think he's going to reward them in one way or another. It just goes to show how delusional they are. Donald is out for Donald.

Anyone who had any sense would quietly slip off the radar and get a job in the private sector.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
8. Take a stand against it? What exactly is Trump supposed to do?
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:14 AM
May 2021

His flunkys aren’t in the Justice Department anymore

getagrip_already

(14,623 posts)
17. he has hundreds of millions of dollars raised for stop the steal legal fees...
Mon May 17, 2021, 09:04 AM
May 2021

That has never been used for anything legal. Rudy knows he has money, has influence on others with money, and rudy badly needs it.

Rudy can't pay his lawyers. He has laid off just about everyone he had on staff. And can't keep up his billionaire lifestyle.

He is in a word, flat broke. The life of a grifter has a bad ending when the money is cut off.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
9. Under the bus, Rudy Colludy. Deal with it.
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:16 AM
May 2021

republiQon Diety Donny used you like a wad of toilet paper.

But don't feel "special." He does that to everyone.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
10. I think the orange one knows Rudy's too compromised ,
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:17 AM
May 2021

And will have to flip .Rudy made way to many mistakes, and the information he still had will implicate him and many others. Rudy is to stupid to keep from going to prison. He'll take others with him for it

jcgoldie

(11,612 posts)
14. How exactly is he supposed to help him?
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:40 AM
May 2021

I mean I realize he doesn't give a fuck about Rudy Giuliani or anyone else not named Donald Trump, but I don't see how he has any pull here anyway.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
18. Rudy has asked him for help with legal bills & been turned down. That's the only help Trump
Mon May 17, 2021, 09:04 AM
May 2021

Could u be him it seems.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
19. Loyalty Street is One Way, Rudy.
Mon May 17, 2021, 09:05 AM
May 2021

Everyone seems surprised when they find out Trump's loyalty is a one way street. How many examples do people need before they get it?
Do not work for, or with, Donald Trump. He honestly believes everyone in the world exists to serve him, and for free.
Sorry, Rudy. I have the same amount of compassion for you as you've had for those beneath you. The cupboard is bare, dude.

getagrip_already

(14,623 posts)
21. Trump said "it's not my call"......
Mon May 17, 2021, 09:08 AM
May 2021

Odd thing to say. Who's call is it? Pooties?

It's not illegal or even uncommon for someone to pay someone elses legal fees, even witnesses against them. So his lawyers aren't telling him not to pay one of his other lawyers.

Trump has money available from all the stop the steal fundraising.

So if it isn't his call, who's call is it?

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
23. Every lawyer in NYC knew the truth about Trump except Rudy:
Mon May 17, 2021, 09:47 AM
May 2021

He doesn't listen, and he doesn't pay.

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
24. The only surprising thing about this story ...
Mon May 17, 2021, 09:56 AM
May 2021

... is that Rudy still has people in his inner circle. Who is labeling themselves with THAT title?

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