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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:27 PM Oct 2012

Free Candy Crowley!

I know a lot of people here dislike CC, but I think as a moderator having the opportunity to ask follow questions gives us an opportunity to get more detail.

Do we understand why the campaigns want Crowley, one of the best political journalists in the business, to be seen but not heard? Absolutely. Is it an absolutely ridiculous request? Absolutely.

While we are all in favor of “regular” people getting to directly question the candidates, the simple fact is that the likelihood is that these questions will be broad rather than narrow — a reality that will allow Obama and Romney to stick with their pre-determined talking points.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/15/let-candy-crowley-moderate/
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Free Candy Crowley! (Original Post) loyalsister Oct 2012 OP
She's a political journalist? sadbear Oct 2012 #1
People say that about Wolf Blitzer loyalsister Oct 2012 #9
you aren't making any sense, you are suggesting she ask her own questions CreekDog Oct 2012 #17
Follow this... loyalsister Oct 2012 #19
you haven't stated why she's professional, fair or good CreekDog Oct 2012 #21
Pointing out that there is disagreement is unfair? loyalsister Oct 2012 #28
That's not what O's "obvious" answer would be Oilwellian Oct 2012 #37
For children that is loyalsister Oct 2012 #39
That is just not correct Oilwellian Oct 2012 #40
That is a specific plan for pre-existing conditions loyalsister Oct 2012 #41
LOL: "one of the best political journalists in the business" FSogol Oct 2012 #2
Not my words loyalsister Oct 2012 #14
yes, you keep saying this but you don't back that statement up CreekDog Oct 2012 #18
So, I am supposed to simply accept your belief? loyalsister Oct 2012 #22
CC one of the best political journalists? Whisp Oct 2012 #3
"best political journalists" HappyMe Oct 2012 #4
Best in the business? She's a hack. Zen Democrat Oct 2012 #5
Title should read, "Free US FROM Candy CROWLEY" or "Free Haley BARBOUR from being stalked by her" nt UTUSN Oct 2012 #6
She was the biggest freaking Bushbot - I'll never closeupready Oct 2012 #7
Remember Bush's nickname for her? alsame Oct 2012 #13
"best political journalist" mitchtv Oct 2012 #8
man please the less we get from her the better. okieinpain Oct 2012 #10
Here's some of Blitzer's interview with then Senator Obama, who smacked down Mittens: sad sally Oct 2012 #15
One of the best journalists? joeybee12 Oct 2012 #11
Candy wants to feed Obama to the Sarlacc... n/t backscatter712 Oct 2012 #12
Crowley sucks on a good day. False premise. TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #16
She is a partisan hack. She has a hardon for Republicans and doesn't hide the fact. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #20
She needs to ask the questions... shut-up and let President Obama and Mitt go at it. Puddy Oct 2012 #23
That would be juvenile loyalsister Oct 2012 #27
Free Candy DJ13 Oct 2012 #24
This article is not about the moderator! loyalsister Oct 2012 #25
Oh FFS! She is a right wing hack. madinmaryland Oct 2012 #26
To whom do you believe CC will ask her follow-up questions to "get more detail"??... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #29
The candidates loyalsister Oct 2012 #30
You must be one of the few posters who believe CC is not a RW hack. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #31
I don't assume that she is loyalsister Oct 2012 #34
By the way, have you noticed that nobody has recommended your OP?.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #32
Unfortunately no one bothered to consider the substance loyalsister Oct 2012 #33
Did you see all the righty comments to that article ashling Oct 2012 #35
lol I missed them loyalsister Oct 2012 #36
She asks good followups like a .190 batter hits homeruns. Bucky Oct 2012 #38

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
9. People say that about Wolf Blitzer
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:41 PM
Oct 2012

Yet, he is the one who asked one of the best, most revealing questions during a R primary debate. "What would you do if a person without insurance is in and accident that results in a coma?"
It seems like anytime a journalist pushes someone on our side to answer questions, they are tagged RW hack.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
17. you aren't making any sense, you are suggesting she ask her own questions
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:06 PM
Oct 2012

but the questions are supposed to come from the audience.

and you're supporting this with an example of Blitzer's question, which wasn't from an audience, which makes no sense because tomorrow night's debate will have the audience asking.

do you even know what you want?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
19. Follow this...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:19 PM
Oct 2012

A 20 something audience member -- "I have a pre-existing condition, do you support my right to have healthcare?"

O's obvious answer is it kicks in in 2014.

Mitt Yes, but....

Crowely could follow with "how do you plan to make it work, Mr. romney?"

My mention of Wolf Blitzer was to point out that people pretty much always accuse moderators of being RW hacks even when they do push Rs during debates.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
21. you haven't stated why she's professional, fair or good
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:23 PM
Oct 2012

still waiting on that.

in fact, let's be clear: you've accused people here of being unfair, while saying that Blitzer and Crowley are fair.

you probably don't even realize you're doing it.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
28. Pointing out that there is disagreement is unfair?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:40 PM
Oct 2012

My opinion is different than that of many. That seems to be the only fact in this discussion.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
37. That's not what O's "obvious" answer would be
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:31 PM
Oct 2012

Obamacare's pre-existing condition insurance is available NOW. That has already kicked in. I think it's important that at LEAST one thing you say is based on fact. LOL

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
40. That is just not correct
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:29 PM
Oct 2012

Here's a link to the insurance offered in my state:

To qualify for coverage:

You must be a United States citizen or reside here legally.
You must be without health coverage for at least the last six months before you apply.
You must have a pre-existing condition or have been denied coverage because of your health condition.

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/features/choices/pre-existing-condition-insurance-plan/va.html

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
41. That is a specific plan for pre-existing conditions
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:33 PM
Oct 2012

The specific regulation I was referring to under ACA, is that it will be illegal to deny coverage for adults based on pre-existing conditions in 2014.
http://healthreform.gov/newsroom/new_patients_bill_of_rights.html

FSogol

(45,425 posts)
2. LOL: "one of the best political journalists in the business"
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:30 PM
Oct 2012


Sure, I don't mind the moderator injecting themselves into the debate. However, I do not feel Crowley will be unbiased.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
22. So, I am supposed to simply accept your belief?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:26 PM
Oct 2012

You are talking about an opinion here. I don't believe she is as biased as other people think. It's a pretty simple difference of opinion.

I think that whomever the moderator is, they should be able to follow up on the questions asked by the people. It opens an opportunity for the candidates to offer more detail and it gives them more time to make their case.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
3. CC one of the best political journalists?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:31 PM
Oct 2012

o come on.

she's a hack. she practically megaphones what side of her bread is being buttered by the Repuglicans.

wtf. man this is a backwards twisted world of lies.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
7. She was the biggest freaking Bushbot - I'll never
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:40 PM
Oct 2012

forget how unfair she was to John Kerry. 'One of the best in the business' - propagandists? Yes, indeed.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
13. Remember Bush's nickname for her?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:55 PM
Oct 2012

"Dolce", meaning sweet or Candy. She used to giggle whenever he addressed her this way. It was nauseating.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
10. man please the less we get from her the better.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:43 PM
Oct 2012

i watched a little bit of wolf's interview with romney this weekend and it was nothing but a romney commercial. he threw up softball after softball with no follow up questioning at all.

allowing crowley to speak would be the same thing all over again.

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
15. Here's some of Blitzer's interview with then Senator Obama, who smacked down Mittens:
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:00 PM
Oct 2012

BLITZER: There are major differences between you and John McCain...

OBAMA: Exactly.

BLITZER: ... on a whole host of domestic issues...

OBAMA: Exactly.

BLITZER: .. and foreign policy issues. And I want to go through those right now.

OBAMA: Sure.

BLITZER: Already, some of his surrogates, some of his supporters, are suggesting you're not ready to be commander in chief, president of the United States.

Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, said this. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MITT ROMNEY (R), FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR: He has not accomplished anything during his life, in terms of legislation, or leading an enterprise, or making a business work or a city work or a state work. He really has very little experience. And the presidency of the United States is not an internship.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: Wow. That's a strong statement.

OBAMA: Yes.

Well, the contest didn't work out so well for Mitt Romney. I think he was making those same arguments against John McCain, suggesting that John McCain, as a senator, hadn't done what Mitt Romney had done. And, yet, here we are, and there Mitt Romney is.

Look, when it comes to national security, I think that what people are looking for is good judgment. They're looking for somebody who is going to be able to assess the very real risks that are out there and deploy our forces, not just military, but diplomatic, political, economic, cultural, in a way that makes the American people safe.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0805/08/sitroom.01.html

Baitball Blogger

(46,655 posts)
20. She is a partisan hack. She has a hardon for Republicans and doesn't hide the fact.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:22 PM
Oct 2012

So, no, she should not be allowed to do anything but hold the microphone up for the townspeople to ask their questions.

Hey, townspeople can present some seriously difficult questions on their own. This is THEIR 90 minutes.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
27. That would be juvenile
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:37 PM
Oct 2012

A debate style for 5th graders maybe, but most grown-ups would not be impressed.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
25. This article is not about the moderator!
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:35 PM
Oct 2012

It is about the format of a debate which happens to be moderated by Candy Crowely.

I think she should be able to ask questions that would naturally follow the original question and answer. Would that be offensive if Rachael Maddow or Chris Mathews were moderating?

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
26. Oh FFS! She is a right wing hack.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:37 PM
Oct 2012

If she is allowed to run free at the debate, she will work on screwing President Obama and give Rmoney a free pass.

Fuck her. She's a right-wing hack.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
29. To whom do you believe CC will ask her follow-up questions to "get more detail"??...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:43 PM
Oct 2012

...As a long-term right-wing hack, what kind of "detail" will she be seeking when she questions the President? What kind of follow-up questions will she ask of Mitt Romney?

Think about it, and then "free" yourself from thinking she will be fair and honest.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
30. The candidates
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:49 PM
Oct 2012

I don't buy into the operating assumption that she is a RW hack. There are obvious follow up questions. It's an opportunity to ask romney for details about the "plans" he keeps talking about. It is pretty obvious that that is where he is weakest.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
34. I don't assume that she is
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:35 PM
Oct 2012

It seems that all journalist other than s\pundits Maddow or Chris Mathews are considered RW hacks here. On the flip side, all journalists and pundits other than Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, etc are part of the librul media.
Among some of our most dedicated partisans, there are no fair journalists.

It's subject to interpretation and opinion.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
32. By the way, have you noticed that nobody has recommended your OP?....
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:03 PM
Oct 2012

...that by itself should be telling you something.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
33. Unfortunately no one bothered to consider the substance
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:17 PM
Oct 2012

I work with the LWV helping to moderate candidate forums which are almost always in a town hall format. We have been advocating for this on a national level for a long time.

Bucky

(53,926 posts)
38. She asks good followups like a .190 batter hits homeruns.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:35 PM
Oct 2012

About twice a season, usually in games when it doesn't matter.

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