Wow, pretty heavy. Jill Biden once said Kamala Harris could go "go fuck yourself?"

[Laura PourMeADrink]

After debate.

Evidently NOT denied by WH office. But good news...they decided to move way beyond the episode. Obviously if Joe picked Kamala! Bygones we all understood.

Still pretty fascinating to me how people can just get over stuff in the political world.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/jill-biden-kamala-harris-moved-on-after-presidential-debate-2021-5%3famp

[MontanaMama]

1. Very interesting.

The MSM will probably not let this go. They’re so used to the reality shit show we endured the last 4+ years...they need gossip and drama. I hope team FLOTUS and team VP can successfully pivot off this.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. Yet if you equate it to the real world.. there's a disconnect.

And not talking just this incident.. but Former Guy's victims as well... How in the world can a person just ignore all the bad things another said about them and move on. Gives politics a bad name? ( Did it ever have a good one) ? No.

[MontanaMama]

17. They've obviously figured it out between themselves.

If they haven’t, count on it bubbling to the surface at some point. Politics is a dirty business and getting dirtier by the day...at minimum it is performance art.

[RegularJam]

2. I had Harris over Biden as a primary pick...

And I didn’t like how Harris handled that episode.

I also don’t think this would bother Harris.

I have people I consider close friends today who have not just said, but done bad things to me.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Remember it was Hail Mary time

[Boydog]

30. Harris' remarks not nearly as bad as Castro's

Way too many candidates in the ring. All we’re trying to get a zinger.

[Hoyt]

3. Bet a lot of people said something like that at time, but Harris' comments

had basis and I think Biden heard it, especially after reflecting. An important moment and glad everyone seems to have moved on.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Really? That in retrospect, Biden decided he was for bussing? WAY BACK THEN?

[Hoyt]

19. Do you think we ought to continue criticizing Biden for that, or does

he appear to be trying to rectify that now?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. Of course not Hoyt. Just sounded like you

were implying that Biden has since changed his view on bussing because of the debate.

[tonedevil]

26. Maybe like his regrets over the crime bill...

he has come to a different understanding about what bussing ment for at least some of the children involved. I bet he wouldn't make this statement today:

“I do not buy the concept, popular in the ’60s, which said, ‘We have suppressed the black man for 300 years and the white man is now far ahead in the race for everything our society offers. In order to even the score, we must now give the black man a head start, or even hold the white man back, to even the race,’ ” Biden told a Delaware-based weekly newspaper in 1975. “I don’t buy that.”

[Mad_Machine76]

4. Old news.

Absolutely no reason to care about this.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Old news? The new book? Duh... Sorry thought new

[MerryHolidays]

10. About the only people who should care are Kamala Harris and Joe and Jill Biden

They don't, and I don't.

[Mad_Machine76]

16. The incident

Not the book

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Thank you. Book new, incident old :)

[Mad_Machine76]

43. Gotcha

[PortTack]

27. It was posted here a couple of times these past few days

[ItsjustMe]

7. 'Go f*** yourself': Jill Biden's reaction to Kamala Harris moment, according to new book (CNN)

Video

A new book by reporter Edward Isaac-Dovere discusses the fallout after Kamala Harris confronted Joe Biden over his record on bussing at a 2020 Democratic debate.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017657849

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Thanks. Sorry just read about it. :(

[ItsjustMe]

18. No need to be sorry

I just thought that others here would be Interested In viewing the CNN video.

[Hekate]

8. Very old news, an eternity in politics. So why bring it up now?

I wonder who overheard it and thought they should spill the beans? I wonder what their motive is in doing so?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. Because I JUST read it... About the new book.

[JohnSJ]

12. Edward-Isaac Dovere, author of this book was a Washington reporter for Politico. Gossip is his

thing. He also wrote that President Obama is a parasite

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/obama-described-book-apos-parasite-072022541.html

and was right out there tweeting about Tara Reade

Not sure if I would trust his credibility

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Yes and WH spokesmen did not deny.

Actually makes me like Jill more.. she's got chutzpah

[JohnSJ]

22. So if they did not deny, does that mean it is an admission? Yellow journalism is alive

and well

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. Yes

[PatSeg]

48. I was furious at Harris after that debate

And I wasn't the only one. I'm sure many people were muttering something profane at the time. Of course, I got over it and Kamala Harris became my first choice for a VP pick before Biden officially chose her. I put it down to a rookie mistake. We see a lot of that during primaries.

I know Joe was hurt by her comments at the time, especially being Harris was a good friend of Beau's, but he is a forgiving man and has made more than his fair share of rookie mistakes as well. Part of what makes him a good president is he can rise above such moments and see beyond one political mishap. Just imagine what kind of loyalty he must inspire.

[betsuni]

49. +1

[JI7]

14. From reading a bit it didn't look like she said it to her

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. You're right. Thanks

[FreepFryer]

28. So is the OP title inaccurate? (Nt)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. Yes it was, corrected :)

[maxrandb]

29. If true, it sounds like Jill Biden was

"Just talking the way that the American people do around their kitchen tables, on break, on the factory floor and at the construction site"

[Marcuse]

33. Locker room talk.

[Kingofalldems]

31. Looks like much ado about very little.

Not sure why you posted this.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. :Sorry, I'm not a stick your head in sand Dem. Hear and read

It all. I happen to find this interesting for a variety of reasons.

[Maxheader]

32. aaaaa well..

I've told best friends that ...

And they've told me that....

[FakeNoose]

36. Remember when Joe and Kamala were political rivals?

Remember when Kamala attacked Joe directly during one of the Democratic debates?

It happened when all 12 of them were vying for the Democratic nomination, so Kamala was looking to make points off Joe's senior statesmanship.

He handled it OK, but I guess Jill wasn't too happy.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

39. Ya guess that was my only point. Not the words per se

but the strong reaction. She's spunkier than I thought and I like it!

Personally really don't like when someone digs way way back in time to come up with an attack. Only because it's impossible for anyone to see the past through the lens of today.

Like on bussing, I have vague recollections of feeling sorry for the kids... That it was obvious people were saying your school/ neighborhood wasn't as good as the one you're going to. Stigma. And felt sorry because they had to get up so early. Never even knew people now thought it was great until Kamala.

[Progressive Jones]

37. LOL ! I tell at least one person that every day. nt

[BGBD]

38. Who was it that suggested Biden couldn't remember things?

Booker or Castro? I can't remember, but I bet Biden does.

Besides, who cares? I've told all of my best friends to go fuck themselves atleast 5 or 6 times each.

[helpisontheway]

40. I was pissed at Kamala after that debate too. Unfortunately, I did not

see another viable option as VP. She was the best choice.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. I thought Beto was myself. Hope of maybe winning TX.. it does

Make me wonder tho. Is it now the generally accepted belief in retrospect that bussing was a great idea? Or was it just Kamala's personal experience.?

[GulfCoast66]

44. Bussing was a disaster. Both politically and to the kids who were bussed.

It more than any issue created the backlash in the south against the Democratic Party.

I was bussed. I lived the nightmare.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

45. Sorry don't know details... But back in the debate, was

Kamala telling Joe that he was wrong to not support bussing? That it personally helped her is all I know.

Like I posted before... In my recollection it was demeaning and we felt sorry for those kids.

[tonedevil]

47. Kamala seems to have had a different experience being bussed. /nt

[msfiddlestix]

41. So what? I would have probably said the same thing, given the context/situation

It was a disappointing tactical/political move on Harris's part in that debate, imo.

If he was a Republican, well hell that might have been quite a different matter, though the same reaction from the spouse of the target should be expected.

[In It to Win It]

46. So...