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Wed May 26, 2021, 11:49 PM

Wow, pretty heavy. Jill Biden once said Kamala Harris could go "go fuck yourself?"

After debate.

Evidently NOT denied by WH office. But good news...they decided to move way beyond the episode. Obviously if Joe picked Kamala! Bygones we all understood.

Still pretty fascinating to me how people can just get over stuff in the political world.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/jill-biden-kamala-harris-moved-on-after-presidential-debate-2021-5%3famp


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Reply Wow, pretty heavy. Jill Biden once said Kamala Harris could go "go fuck yourself?" (Original post)
Laura PourMeADrink May 26 OP
MontanaMama May 26 #1
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #5
MontanaMama May 27 #17
RegularJam May 26 #2
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #21
Boydog May 27 #30
Hoyt May 26 #3
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #13
Hoyt May 27 #19
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #23
tonedevil May 27 #26
Mad_Machine76 May 26 #4
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #6
MerryHolidays May 27 #10
Mad_Machine76 May 27 #16
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #24
Mad_Machine76 May 27 #43
PortTack May 27 #27
ItsjustMe May 27 #7
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #9
ItsjustMe May 27 #18
Hekate May 27 #8
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #11
JohnSJ May 27 #12
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #15
JohnSJ May 27 #22
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #25
PatSeg May 28 #48
betsuni May 28 #49
JI7 May 27 #14
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #20
FreepFryer May 27 #28
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #34
maxrandb May 27 #29
Marcuse May 27 #33
Kingofalldems May 27 #31
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #35
Maxheader May 27 #32
FakeNoose May 27 #36
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #39
Progressive Jones May 27 #37
BGBD May 27 #38
helpisontheway May 27 #40
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #42
GulfCoast66 May 27 #44
Laura PourMeADrink May 27 #45
tonedevil May 28 #47
msfiddlestix May 27 #41
In It to Win It May 28 #46

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Wed May 26, 2021, 11:54 PM

1. Very interesting.

The MSM will probably not let this go. They’re so used to the reality shit show we endured the last 4+ years...they need gossip and drama. I hope team FLOTUS and team VP can successfully pivot off this.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #1)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:01 AM

5. Yet if you equate it to the real world.. there's a disconnect.

And not talking just this incident.. but Former Guy's victims as well... How in the world can a person just ignore all the bad things another said about them and move on. Gives politics a bad name? ( Did it ever have a good one) ? No.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #5)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:13 AM

17. They've obviously figured it out between themselves.

If they haven’t, count on it bubbling to the surface at some point. Politics is a dirty business and getting dirtier by the day...at minimum it is performance art.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Wed May 26, 2021, 11:55 PM

2. I had Harris over Biden as a primary pick...

 

And I didn’t like how Harris handled that episode.

I also don’t think this would bother Harris.

I have people I consider close friends today who have not just said, but done bad things to me.

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Response to RegularJam (Reply #2)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:19 AM

21. Remember it was Hail Mary time

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Response to RegularJam (Reply #2)

Thu May 27, 2021, 06:41 AM

30. Harris' remarks not nearly as bad as Castro's

Way too many candidates in the ring. All we’re trying to get a zinger.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Wed May 26, 2021, 11:56 PM

3. Bet a lot of people said something like that at time, but Harris' comments

had basis and I think Biden heard it, especially after reflecting. An important moment and glad everyone seems to have moved on.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:08 AM

13. Really? That in retrospect, Biden decided he was for bussing? WAY BACK THEN?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #13)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:15 AM

19. Do you think we ought to continue criticizing Biden for that, or does

he appear to be trying to rectify that now?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:21 AM

23. Of course not Hoyt. Just sounded like you

were implying that Biden has since changed his view on bussing because of the debate.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #13)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:26 AM

26. Maybe like his regrets over the crime bill...

he has come to a different understanding about what bussing ment for at least some of the children involved. I bet he wouldn't make this statement today:

“I do not buy the concept, popular in the ’60s, which said, ‘We have suppressed the black man for 300 years and the white man is now far ahead in the race for everything our society offers. In order to even the score, we must now give the black man a head start, or even hold the white man back, to even the race,’ ” Biden told a Delaware-based weekly newspaper in 1975. “I don’t buy that.”

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Wed May 26, 2021, 11:56 PM

4. Old news.

Absolutely no reason to care about this.

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Response to Mad_Machine76 (Reply #4)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:03 AM

6. Old news? The new book? Duh... Sorry thought new

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #6)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:05 AM

10. About the only people who should care are Kamala Harris and Joe and Jill Biden

They don't, and I don't.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #6)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:10 AM

16. The incident

Not the book

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Response to Mad_Machine76 (Reply #16)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:22 AM

24. Thank you. Book new, incident old :)

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #24)

Thu May 27, 2021, 07:44 PM

43. Gotcha

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #6)

Thu May 27, 2021, 01:48 AM

27. It was posted here a couple of times these past few days

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:03 AM

7. 'Go f*** yourself': Jill Biden's reaction to Kamala Harris moment, according to new book (CNN)

Video

A new book by reporter Edward Isaac-Dovere discusses the fallout after Kamala Harris confronted Joe Biden over his record on bussing at a 2020 Democratic debate.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017657849

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Response to ItsjustMe (Reply #7)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:04 AM

9. Thanks. Sorry just read about it. :(

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #9)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:14 AM

18. No need to be sorry

I just thought that others here would be Interested In viewing the CNN video.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:04 AM

8. Very old news, an eternity in politics. So why bring it up now?

I wonder who overheard it and thought they should spill the beans? I wonder what their motive is in doing so?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #8)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:05 AM

11. Because I JUST read it... About the new book.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:07 AM

12. Edward-Isaac Dovere, author of this book was a Washington reporter for Politico. Gossip is his

thing. He also wrote that President Obama is a parasite

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/obama-described-book-apos-parasite-072022541.html

and was right out there tweeting about Tara Reade

Not sure if I would trust his credibility

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #12)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:10 AM

15. Yes and WH spokesmen did not deny.

Actually makes me like Jill more.. she's got chutzpah

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #15)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:20 AM

22. So if they did not deny, does that mean it is an admission? Yellow journalism is alive

and well

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #22)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:23 AM

25. Yes

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #15)

Fri May 28, 2021, 12:21 AM

48. I was furious at Harris after that debate

And I wasn't the only one. I'm sure many people were muttering something profane at the time. Of course, I got over it and Kamala Harris became my first choice for a VP pick before Biden officially chose her. I put it down to a rookie mistake. We see a lot of that during primaries.

I know Joe was hurt by her comments at the time, especially being Harris was a good friend of Beau's, but he is a forgiving man and has made more than his fair share of rookie mistakes as well. Part of what makes him a good president is he can rise above such moments and see beyond one political mishap. Just imagine what kind of loyalty he must inspire.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #48)

Fri May 28, 2021, 12:24 AM

49. +1

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:08 AM

14. From reading a bit it didn't look like she said it to her

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Response to JI7 (Reply #14)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:15 AM

20. You're right. Thanks

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #20)

Thu May 27, 2021, 03:23 AM

28. So is the OP title inaccurate? (Nt)

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Response to FreepFryer (Reply #28)

Thu May 27, 2021, 09:45 AM

34. Yes it was, corrected :)

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 06:03 AM

29. If true, it sounds like Jill Biden was

"Just talking the way that the American people do around their kitchen tables, on break, on the factory floor and at the construction site"

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #29)

Thu May 27, 2021, 09:36 AM

33. Locker room talk.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 06:58 AM

31. Looks like much ado about very little.

Not sure why you posted this.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #31)

Thu May 27, 2021, 09:49 AM

35. :Sorry, I'm not a stick your head in sand Dem. Hear and read

It all. I happen to find this interesting for a variety of reasons.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 07:10 AM

32. aaaaa well..



I've told best friends that ...

And they've told me that....

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 09:52 AM

36. Remember when Joe and Kamala were political rivals?

Remember when Kamala attacked Joe directly during one of the Democratic debates?

It happened when all 12 of them were vying for the Democratic nomination, so Kamala was looking to make points off Joe's senior statesmanship.

He handled it OK, but I guess Jill wasn't too happy.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #36)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:28 PM

39. Ya guess that was my only point. Not the words per se

but the strong reaction. She's spunkier than I thought and I like it!

Personally really don't like when someone digs way way back in time to come up with an attack. Only because it's impossible for anyone to see the past through the lens of today.

Like on bussing, I have vague recollections of feeling sorry for the kids... That it was obvious people were saying your school/ neighborhood wasn't as good as the one you're going to. Stigma. And felt sorry because they had to get up so early. Never even knew people now thought it was great until Kamala.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 10:11 AM

37. LOL ! I tell at least one person that every day. nt

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 10:54 AM

38. Who was it that suggested Biden couldn't remember things?

Booker or Castro? I can't remember, but I bet Biden does.

Besides, who cares? I've told all of my best friends to go fuck themselves atleast 5 or 6 times each.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:32 PM

40. I was pissed at Kamala after that debate too. Unfortunately, I did not

see another viable option as VP. She was the best choice.

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #40)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:37 PM

42. I thought Beto was myself. Hope of maybe winning TX.. it does

Make me wonder tho. Is it now the generally accepted belief in retrospect that bussing was a great idea? Or was it just Kamala's personal experience.?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #42)

Thu May 27, 2021, 08:38 PM

44. Bussing was a disaster. Both politically and to the kids who were bussed.

It more than any issue created the backlash in the south against the Democratic Party.

I was bussed. I lived the nightmare.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #44)

Thu May 27, 2021, 11:59 PM

45. Sorry don't know details... But back in the debate, was

Kamala telling Joe that he was wrong to not support bussing? That it personally helped her is all I know.

Like I posted before... In my recollection it was demeaning and we felt sorry for those kids.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #44)

Fri May 28, 2021, 12:11 AM

47. Kamala seems to have had a different experience being bussed. /nt

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 12:33 PM

41. So what? I would have probably said the same thing, given the context/situation

It was a disappointing tactical/political move on Harris's part in that debate, imo.

If he was a Republican, well hell that might have been quite a different matter, though the same reaction from the spouse of the target should be expected.

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