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Fri May 28, 2021, 04:30 PM

The reins on hate have been unleashed. Moral compasses, if they existed, have been buried.

Bannon, Miller, Gaetz, Greene, the "Don's " family and millions of the Orange Emperor's adoring "base" are gearing up for violence. The numbers and un-restricted armament could easily overwhelm local law enforcement. Your opinion and thoughts matter. Please chip in and tell me that's not our future. Thanks

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Reply The reins on hate have been unleashed. Moral compasses, if they existed, have been buried. (Original post)
Evolve Dammit May 2021 OP
KT2000 May 2021 #1
I_UndergroundPanther May 2021 #2
onethatcares May 2021 #5
I_UndergroundPanther May 2021 #6
Evolve Dammit May 2021 #14
onethatcares May 2021 #17
Evolve Dammit May 2021 #20
roamer65 May 2021 #22
onethatcares May 2021 #23
malaise May 2021 #3
I_UndergroundPanther May 2021 #7
Marrah_Goodman May 2021 #4
PortTack May 2021 #8
Evolve Dammit May 2021 #12
Comatose Sphagetti May 2021 #9
Hortensis May 2021 #11
Evolve Dammit May 2021 #15
Hortensis May 2021 #10
Evolve Dammit May 2021 #13
Hortensis May 2021 #19
Evolve Dammit May 2021 #21
Hortensis May 2021 #24
Evolve Dammit May 2021 #25
nuxvomica May 2021 #16
Evolve Dammit May 2021 #18

Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 05:01 PM

1. call up the National Guard now

and have them prepare for domestic terrorism if that is the case.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 05:05 PM

2. I imagined 2 scenarios

Conservative fuckwits will over time put the screws to regular citizens because they can ,steal cheat lie all the shit sociopaths do and thier bullshit might start a civil war again.

Or they secede,We give them thier southern states, and cut off thier federal money . We never allow conservatism into our part of the country again.

We may learn to discriminate based on beliefs, and personality type (sociopaths and dark triad)after learning how conservatism and toxic evangelicalism leads to mass magical thinking ,delusion and conspirasy and it's toxic and anti humane so anyone who supports that belief system is exiled to dumbfuckistan.

Eventually the land of dumbfuckistan down south will be submerged underwater and they all go extinct.

We on the other hand might have hardship but we'll survive and our community will be encouraged.And things will get better.

And we can live our lives without conservatism fucking us over.

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #2)

Fri May 28, 2021, 05:52 PM

5. hey, what about me?

I live in the southern most state and even though it's a nut house on wheels, I bought a house here, worked here 40 years, and don't want to move to the cold climates above the floriduh/georgia border.

Have you really thought that number of scenarios out?

and after reading your screed I think it sounds just like what the conservatives would like to do to we non conservatives here.

Wassup with that?

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #5)

Fri May 28, 2021, 06:05 PM

6. I don't know what would work

But if it comes to that,
Not giving away money to keep the southern states functioning will free up a lot of money for us Maybe the same politicans left could subsidize your new home.

I dunno. It would not be ideal but what else can you do if the right wing sociopaths start a war?

Either way, we are learning that sociopaths should be kept away from power in all it's forms.

Learning that negotiating with authoritarians and sociopaths with a sense of conscience,
compassion and responsibility on thier part is not possible.

Because they have none of those qualities.

And lastly there is no living with them in peace..

We are locked in a country with shitloads of people with dark triad personalities and authoritarian mentality and they want to destroy us and democracy.

How do you propose we with live with these republicans and trust them around power as they want abuse it and to dominate and torture and kill us...

Kill us with thier financial abuse,braindead followers, keep the country awash in guns, kill anything that helps the commons, push insane anti abortion laws,encouraging violent white supremacy, take away the social safety net,among many awful things they love to do.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #5)

Sat May 29, 2021, 08:31 AM

14. There are lots of good folks in red states, but currently their voices are drowned out. The divide

is widening at a rapid clip, even among family. My own as an example, and we had three that fought in the Civil War. You would think they would never want that again but the brain-washed agitation is proving quite effective sadly.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #14)

Sat May 29, 2021, 08:56 AM

17. the solution

choose our battles, present an easy to understand platform, along with reasons why that policy would work instead of allowing the pukes and "conservatives" to outline our own parameters.

I hate to say it but after living here for over 40 years (floriduh)' since Bob Graham was governor there hasn't really been a strong presentation of Democratic ideas and attitudes.

Meanwhile the "conservatives" have pitched the hippie liberal tax raisin' progressive meme without a problem. See scott and rubio and desantis, and gaetz, bondi,and the rest.

And WE are supposed to be the smart ones. Surely we can do a little bit better than Christ, Gulliam, and whoever we've been tossing out as road kill to the people.

I am not bashing our party, I'm just wondering wth we're doing.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #17)

Sat May 29, 2021, 09:06 AM

20. I agree. The smears have worked with the easily swayed. I liked Janet Reno and I like Val Demmings

and Alan Grayson. Grayson can talk at their level and get the message out without taking crap. So can Demmings. There must be others.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #5)

Sat May 29, 2021, 09:49 AM

22. In 20 years, you may have to come north to avoid 130 deg F heat.

Keep that in mind as well.



At a certain point, we will hafta cut off the exodus up here.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #22)

Sat May 29, 2021, 09:53 AM

23. I have the feeling

the only way I would go north in 20 years is as bird poop.

but you're correct. It's getting hotter than hades here and people are wondering, "How high's the water mamma?"

Maybe if we did block I 75 and I 95 the folks from un north would stop coming down here tearing up our enviroment with places like the villages from hell.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 05:11 PM

3. Not one of them has a moral compass

That is all

Rec

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Fri May 28, 2021, 06:09 PM

7. True that malaise

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 05:13 PM

4. Would love to tell you that is not the future

But sadly in some places It may well be. I just hope my region eventually decides to cut itself off from these crazy states before it get's too bad.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 06:48 PM

8. JMHO these whackos have always been there..just not so out in the open. Be it more uncomfortable

To have them out...Itís better because we can see who they are. Knowledge is power.

I believe we will continue to see random acts of violence and more mass shootings. As far as an organized militia...no. The FBI know who these ppl are and has ID white supremacy groups as terrorist organizations. Ask or read what veterans or active military have to say about some militia thinking they could start and survive a civil war.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMec9soGb/

If the link doesnít open, click on it! It will make you feel better

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Response to PortTack (Reply #8)

Sat May 29, 2021, 08:14 AM

12. That was helpful. Thanks. There are plenty of retired generals who might try though...

Not sure how much sway they would have with active, but the depths of their disloyalty may be on full display soon. Hopefully, I am so far gone that that won't happen and I can go back to watching Curious George re-runs after they are arrested for sedition/ treason and 45 is wearing orange.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:32 PM

9. Not our future.

"Millions" are not "gearing up" for violence.
Take a deep breath, my friend.
All will be OK.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Reply #9)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:39 PM

11. :) A homemade sign by the highway says simply, "We'll be okay."

I believe it, but it makes me smile and feel reassured every time anyway.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Reply #9)

Sat May 29, 2021, 08:34 AM

15. Sorry but since O was elected, weapons sales have sky-rocketed and ammo flies off the shelves.

It continues now

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:36 PM

10. Nothing new. Just this current iteration. Suggest sucking it up because

the only way any of us get out of doing our part, whether problem or solution, is by dying.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)

Sat May 29, 2021, 08:17 AM

13. Hope the Dems start laying out some cold, hard facts in the form of public hearings. Not quite dead

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #13)

Sat May 29, 2021, 09:04 AM

19. That's be nice, but itm self reliance? Can't expect congress to detox

us from the poisonous media influences busily inculcating despair and rush to surrender. They're kind of busy trying to rescue a nation in critical trouble, and we have to do that ourselves.

Sure, moral compasses of many Americans are at least adequate, but others are failing. A question is, would someone with an intact moral compass feel he has a duty to the whole to first tend to his own mental health, similar to a duty to be vaccinated to stop the spread of a viral disease?

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #19)

Sat May 29, 2021, 09:30 AM

21. You make good points although I have no idea what itm is. "We" have limited power in the blog sphere

Attending local meetings, yard signs, petition drives, rallies, calls to elected officials, phone banking are about the sum of what I can do without running for office. "Poisonous media influences" have to be countered by the honest journalists that the previous admin worked so hard to discredit, discount and silence. Accountability is the job of DOJ, the Legislative branch and State AGs.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #21)

Sat May 29, 2021, 10:02 AM

24. We have to detox ourselves. It's too much to expect

people under the influence of perniciously manipulative messages to somehow be found and rescued by honest sources.

The very idea that an entire nation of over 300,000000 individuals could have lost "its" moral compass, as if we only have one, sounds irrational to me and in need of examination in the sunshine of the real world. Less political agitprop and forums, even if they do also disprove the notion constantly, more walking around chatting with people as we find them. It's Memorial Day weekend. There's a concert in a park somewhere.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #24)

Sat May 29, 2021, 01:46 PM

25. Thanks. I did not mean the entire nation. I meant the GOP/ QAnon/ christo fascists/ racist haters.

There are millions of truly wonderful, caring people. I have just been appalled that at a time of national crises (multiple) that 70 million or more don't have the desire or ability to care about their fellow humans or our country. I never knew there were so many. OK. I'm done now. Have a good weekend. I struggle with all the dead that caused this to be a national "holiday" as well. Sigh.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat May 29, 2021, 08:45 AM

16. I think it hinges on whether the DFP (disgraced former pres) is convicted of something

His influence is based on the magical notion that he can get away with anything and people ascribe that to inherent virtue, like he is in a state of grace with the creator, despite how disgusting he actually is. The DFP achieves this by always pushing the moral or legal envelope and stepping back just a little when he sees imminent peril. He has gotten away with things all his life but recent reports that he will run again "if he is healthy" is another trial balloon to set the stage for a health-related-issues defense. This is the last fallback position so I think the DFP sees the possibility of conviction in the near future and is preparing a strategy to get away with it. If the strategy fails, the whole house of cards falls with him and the luster of impunity, his only real asset, disappears. His followers will lose their glassy-eyed aspect and rictus smiles because the magic has gone out of their lives.

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Response to nuxvomica (Reply #16)

Sat May 29, 2021, 09:01 AM

18. One can only hope for the rule of law to yank the reins in. I've been hopeful before and watched

as nothing happens to white collar criminals. Fitzmas, Mueller, etc. The whole pardon power needs repealing too.

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