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Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:21 PM Jun 2021

The Official What Would Change Manchin's Mind Thread 🧵.

There’s an old saying that “everybody has their price”.
So, what would it take for Manchin to change his mind and vote to end the filibuster?

Fill in the blank..

Schumer and the DNC and wealthy Democratic donors should offer him ____________________.

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The Official What Would Change Manchin's Mind Thread 🧵. (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 OP
The only thing that might work Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #1
Considering it's West Virginia, elleng Jun 2021 #2
Well, that's all I got. Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #14
Well, didn't he bond with Lady Gaga at Biden's Inauguration? DURHAM D Jun 2021 #3
Better yet. She gives his family a private concert Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 #15
So we give him Lady Gaga? What do we have to give her? Irish_Dem Jun 2021 #26
Nothing. She is very political and a good Democrat. nt DURHAM D Jun 2021 #27
Bradley Cooper? Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 #34
Oh good, that is perfect. We don't have to give Bradley Cooper anything else. Irish_Dem Jun 2021 #35
I know that was very "SHALLOW" of me. 😳🤪🤗 Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 #36
OK but there are a "Million Reasons" for why you are right. Irish_Dem Jun 2021 #38
A staggering campaign warchest. Pobeka Jun 2021 #4
I suggest dangle his committee chairmanships/memberships for some developmental aid PghTiny Jun 2021 #5
Digging up enough dirt on his daughter and her role with jacking up the price on epi-pens dflprincess Jun 2021 #6
Good one. I call the good Senator "Papa EpiPen" MerryHolidays Jun 2021 #10
So you advocate the stick over the carrot. Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 #17
As a rule I believe more progress is made with a carrot but when that falis a stick may be needed dflprincess Jun 2021 #19
His stick is bigger FBaggins Jun 2021 #23
There has to be something they can find to persuade him. dflprincess Jun 2021 #24
THIS. roamer65 Jun 2021 #22
Get rid of same day voter registration. Blue_true Jun 2021 #7
We have had same day registration in Minnesota for years and it works well. dflprincess Jun 2021 #13
He isn't going to change his mind. He thinks he is on the path to the Presidency, ShazamIam Jun 2021 #8
Presidency?! Of what country? This one? Yavin4 Jun 2021 #21
Nothing. MerryHolidays Jun 2021 #9
follow the money and expose the inevitable double dealing bullshit. NewHendoLib Jun 2021 #11
+1. It's the entire Manchin family dalton99a Jun 2021 #16
Yup, a long history of scum baggery... Champion Jack Jun 2021 #25
To work against his re-election. Dan Jun 2021 #12
Nothing because... Murphyb849 Jun 2021 #18
Realize he is not in the good old boys club. pwb Jun 2021 #20
a brain and heart transplant n/t Stargleamer Jun 2021 #28
I don't think Schumer or the DNC have anything compelling to offer him. GoodRaisin Jun 2021 #29
Give him a submarine base! Thunderbeast Jun 2021 #30
Nothing. Take him at his word and move on and focus on finding the best candidates who can notpolltested Jun 2021 #31
Double what moscow mitch / putin are paying SheltieLover Jun 2021 #32
I would love to know . . . peggysue2 Jun 2021 #33
Honestly, probably nothing Bettie Jun 2021 #37
I say we should damn him with feint praise. Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 #39

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
3. Well, didn't he bond with Lady Gaga at Biden's Inauguration?
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:26 PM
Jun 2021

She could give him a lifetime pass to all of her concerts or perhaps just stop by his office and sit on his lap.

Irish_Dem

(46,962 posts)
35. Oh good, that is perfect. We don't have to give Bradley Cooper anything else.
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:01 PM
Jun 2021

He and Lady Gaga are each other's reward.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
36. I know that was very "SHALLOW" of me. 😳🤪🤗
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:04 PM
Jun 2021

In the shallow, sha..how, how, low….lalala…I can’t sing 🎶.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
4. A staggering campaign warchest.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:26 PM
Jun 2021

If he's worried about re-election, give him the means to alleviate that worry.

I'd donate to that particular cause.

PghTiny

(276 posts)
5. I suggest dangle his committee chairmanships/memberships for some developmental aid
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:27 PM
Jun 2021

Maybe focus on deploying broadband internet, water, electricity, telephone, television, and other utilities to underserved communities in WV. If that fails… threaten to take away his seniority in committees. If he squawks about that, take away his committee memberships.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
6. Digging up enough dirt on his daughter and her role with jacking up the price on epi-pens
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:27 PM
Jun 2021

that he either cooperates or she meets the same fate as Pharma-Bro?

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
10. Good one. I call the good Senator "Papa EpiPen"
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jun 2021

Ask him to explain the sins of his kid in jacking up the price of EpiPens to an unconscionable level. Did Papa EpiPen have any involvement?

The Rs would do no less.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
17. So you advocate the stick over the carrot.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:49 PM
Jun 2021

Sometimes fear of something bad happening to you does work better than offering a reward.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
19. As a rule I believe more progress is made with a carrot but when that falis a stick may be needed
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 10:14 PM
Jun 2021

Schumer and Biden have been playing nice with him, clearly that is not working the time has come to get nasty.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
24. There has to be something they can find to persuade him.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 10:31 PM
Jun 2021

Biden & Schumer need to start playing dirty with him.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. Get rid of same day voter registration.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:28 PM
Jun 2021

That is a Left dream that sticks in the throats of even some Left people. There should be a reasonable amount of time to check the eligibility of a person before that person gets a ballot.

We can strip away all the republican voter suppression attempts without insisting on items like Election Day voter registration and Election Day as a holiday.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
13. We have had same day registration in Minnesota for years and it works well.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:46 PM
Jun 2021

The voter has to turn up with ID (or if their ID does not have the current address year, they can use ID & and a utility bill that confirms the address) or a voter currently registered in the precinct that can vouch for them.

There are heavy penalties for both the new voter and the voter who vouched for them if the registration is fraudulent. There have been very few problems and we would have heard about them because the 'Cons have been looking for them ever since the state started same day registration.

Currently, same day registration votes are not considered "provisional", though the Republicans in the State Senate have slipped a clause into an Ominbus bill that would make them provisional.

Like Republicans everywhere, Minnesota Republicans are concerned about too many of the "wrong kind" of people voting. Fortunately, the DFL controls the state House and Governorship.

ShazamIam

(2,570 posts)
8. He isn't going to change his mind. He thinks he is on the path to the Presidency,
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:29 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Mon Jun 7, 2021, 12:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Apparently he believes the MSM lies that the U.S. is a center right nation. one of the biggest whoppers ever, but a distant second to the much older and more damaging lie, the MSM is liberal.


Edit: Presidency

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
21. Presidency?! Of what country? This one?
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 10:18 PM
Jun 2021

If he believes that he can become president, he's dumber and more narcissistic than Trump.

GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
29. I don't think Schumer or the DNC have anything compelling to offer him.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 10:46 PM
Jun 2021

Perhaps the pressure needs to come from the states he's trying to take away democracy from. Maybe they have something they can withhold from West Virginia if they don't want to be disenfranchised in Federal elections because of West Virginia's out of control Senator.

 

notpolltested

(96 posts)
31. Nothing. Take him at his word and move on and focus on finding the best candidates who can
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 12:24 AM
Jun 2021

leave it all on the field in 2022 with the best campaign operation's in US political history, which is what this will take, and also commit to actually reforming the Senate.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
33. I would love to know . . .
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:51 AM
Jun 2021

what the Republicans are dangling over Manchin after that comment Grassley made to one of his constituents (caught on a hot mic) about the fate of the filibuster. The constituent was worried the Dems would eliminate the ruling but Grassley assured the individual that they (Republican leadership) were confident they had "Manchin nailed down."

Nailed down to what? I'd like to know.

What bug have they implanted in his brain? Or what have they offered/promised the man? Because none of Manchin's reasoning makes any sense in today's reality.

If he's truly concerned about maintaining the integrity of the Senate, then reforming the filibuster is a means to that end. Doing nothing means we get more of the same--the minority jamming the majority at every turn. Even going so far as refusing a bipartisan committee to investigate January 6th, a day on which their own lives were threatened. How much more evidence would Manchin need to admit McConnell and his crew's primary objective is to block the Biden agenda? All of it.

Does. Not. Make. Sense.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
37. Honestly, probably nothing
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:05 PM
Jun 2021

he just likes to be the stick in the wheel of the bicycle because he loves to see others get hurt.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
39. I say we should damn him with feint praise.
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jun 2021

Something like this from Pres Biden:
“I’d like to commend Senator Manchin and a few others in the Democratic caucus. They have bent over backwards, forwards, and sideways to work with many of their Republican colleagues on a number of important subjects facing our nation.
But because of the strict intimidation of the current Republican leadership, those reasonable Republican Senators voices have been silenced.
Subsequently, I plan to meet with Senator Manchin and others to discuss what a new path forward may look like. Inaction is not acceptable “.

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