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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsArizona "audit" looking for someone to read 50,000 Braille ballots - CNN
No link. Part of a report on air by Kyung Lah. Shes been there for weeks doing excellent reporting.
Apparently Cyber Ninja says they are near the end of this fraudit but they have 50,000 ballots in Braille. They need someone who can read Braille* which cant be very hard to find seeing as how 50,000 people in Maricopa county voted using it. Theyve known about these ballots from the beginning , according to Lah, but they never got around to preparing to review them.
*Im guessing regular Braille not contracted or UEB.
Midnight Writer
(21,751 posts)Silent3
(15,206 posts)...in their talented entourage?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)in my family.
But isnt Braille raised text? If so, shouldnt a person who isnt blind immediately see how a person that is blind voted?
dsc
(52,160 posts)But I would have assumed the English would be on the ballot as well as the braille
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)underpants
(182,788 posts)So the blind or low vision voter could have assistance if needed.
underpants
(182,788 posts)Once youve figured out how one works the others should follow. Also, I think you still vote with an ink pen not a stylus (it makes the bumps by hand).
Braille is actually very simple - sets of 10 - and with a cheat card a sighted person could figure it out pretty easily.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)underpants
(182,788 posts)There are 6 dots
1-4
2-5
3-6
A-J is 10 letters. In numbers A is 1, I is 9, J is 0
A is the 1 dot
One row below - K is the 1 and 3. L is the same as B but with a 3 dot
Next row U is A with a 3 and a 6. That line follows with 3 and 6s. W is an outlier because there was no W in the French alphabet when Braille invented it. He was 13 years old by the way.
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Do you know why r was chosen as the mirror image for w? Looking at the system, it seems the easiest to use.
On edit, I noticed that p and v are mirrors.
underpants
(182,788 posts)W was created later and from Ive found no one is sure who when or where it was added. I think it just happens to mirror r.
susanr516
(1,425 posts)I have a cousin who is legally blind. When we were kids, he told me, "I have a book that you can't read." He is 4 yrs older than me, but I'm an Aspie with hyperlexia, so I haughtily told him I could read anything he could. He handed me the book. Dots on a page. Then he took the book back from me and read me the story. Being an Aspie, I immediately became obsessed with learning to read Braille. My aunt was kind enough to type out the Braille alphabet with the letters underneath them. I never learned to read while using only my fingers, but I did learn to recognize the letters by sight. It would go slowly, but it's doable.
Yes. Its doable. Not with this crowd though.
LiberalFighter
(50,897 posts)Ballots are printed in a specific order for each precinct or voting district. Each ballot is printed with the specific precinct or voting district on it. The same would apply for those that are blind. Although I believe they use special machines to cast the ballot. Either way when the ballot is marked the mark would be for one person.
dsc
(52,160 posts)Not sure if AZ is one
LiberalFighter
(50,897 posts)there would be only a minimum number of rotations and there would be a key to identify that rotation on the ballot.
And the purpose of including a key would be to make fraud even more difficult by outsiders.
underpants
(182,788 posts)You would stand out amongst the crowd doing the audit.
No its not that complicated and everything on ballots is standard. They must have not even looked into them or something
Hekate
(90,657 posts)Ka-Dinh Oy
(11,686 posts)50,000 ballots in braille means 50,000 blind people they could ask to read them.
I am sure there probably are a couple of blind Republicans or Qanon's who would be happy to count votes.
My blind friend is going to laugh her ass of when I tell her about this.
underpants
(182,788 posts)Also, like any other ballot they should be standard. Once you figured out how one works they should all be the same. But thats just me.
Ka-Dinh Oy
(11,686 posts)They are allowed to have someone in the booth to read to them.
My friend says it is easy.
underpants
(182,788 posts)She couldnt read. I was her ride to and from the poll too.
Ka-Dinh Oy
(11,686 posts)kentuck
(111,082 posts)Is that where they plan on making up their shortfall??
underpants
(182,788 posts)Maricopa County is 4.5 Million people.
The blind and low vision community is usually about 1% so 50,000 is about right. That is a high turnout for that group.
Tribetime
(4,685 posts)Only 175,000 of 7,3000,000 legally blind or 1/4 of 1% in Arizona
kentuck
(111,082 posts)Regardless of age or condition.
Tribetime
(4,685 posts)So only 17,000 in the whole state us braille....no way 50,000 in one county
Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)I don't recall ever hearing of Braille ballots, but that's been over 40 years ago, so things have probably changed.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Blue pens don't work on Braille ballots.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)(AZ Audit Screenshot)
PHOENIX The hand recount of 2.1 million ballots from the 2020 Maricopa County election has been completed, an Arizona Senate spokesman said Monday.
Three boxes of Braille ballots about 50 to 60 in total were left to be counted along with large-type, overseas military and duplicated ballots but all others had gone through the process, which began April 23.
https://ktar.com/story/4496413/recount-done-for-2-1-million-ballots-in-audit-of-maricopa-county-election/
I think someone may have gotten that number wrong to come up with 50,000 braille ballots. Maybe they're counting all, including large-type, overseas military and duplicated ballots.
I doubt very much that there were 50,000 braille ballots in Maricopa County.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)..or maybe somebody who isn't willfully blind?
malaise
(268,952 posts)There was a highly suspicious fraudit