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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 06:11 PM Jun 2021

Britney Spears Just Told the World How Bad Her Conservatorship Really Is

“I have an IUD in my body right now that won’t let me have a baby and my conservators won’t let me go to the doctor to take it out,” Britney Spears said in a hearing on Wednesday.

Britney Spears has had enough.

The pop icon virtually went before a court Wednesday to speak publically for the first time about the conservatorship, overseen by her father, that has controlled almost every aspect of her life for 13 years .

“It is my wish and dream for all of this to end,” said Spears. “I want my life back.”

Her anger over her situation was palpable, and her tone starkly contrasted with the often saccharine persona she presents on her Instagram, which is awash with fluffy kittens, butterflies, roses, and dance routines. She seemed to be all too aware of this discrepancy.

“After I’ve told the whole world I’m okay, it’s a lie,” she said. “I’m not happy, I can’t sleep, I’m depressed, I cry every day.”

She said that she would like to be able to sue her family over the position they’ve left her in, and said that her lawyer, whom she did not choose for herself, never told her that she was able to petition to terminate the conservatorship.

“I truly believe this conservatorship is abusive,” said Spears. “My request is to end the conservatorship without being evaluated like before.”

...

From the get-go, Spears was opposed to her once-estranged father asserting control over the conservatorship, according to the New York Times. Despite her position, a judge concluded that her father was best suited to take the reins.

A day before Wednesday’s hearing, the Times, citing confidential court documents, revealed that the pop icon had been trying to terminate the restrictive conservatorship agreement for years. Despite raking in millions of dollars through record-breaking albums and tours, she wasn’t allowed to have control of her own credit cards, had to seek her father’s approval for the most basic of decisions like repainting her own kitchen cabinets, and wasn’t even allowed to make new friends without him signing off first.

“He loved the control he had over me, one hundred thousand percent,” said Spears at the hearing, in reference to her father, who was reportedly not on the virtual call.

And, she noted, she didn’t understand why she was restrained by a conservatorship when she’s working. The Times also revealed that her father makes $16,000 per month as a salary for being her conservator, which is twice the monthly allowance she’s given. He also gets a cut from her world tours.


https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg8dey/britney-spears-conservatorship-abuse-court-hearing



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Britney Spears Just Told the World How Bad Her Conservatorship Really Is (Original Post) demmiblue Jun 2021 OP
What happened to her is a travesty, and there are many, many more like her. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #1
Same as it ever was. demmiblue Jun 2021 #5
+1 Thanks for posting this nightmare abuse appalachiablue Jun 2021 #39
I agree Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #28
What an abusive situation. Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #2
Is this slavery? nt DURHAM D Jun 2021 #3
She gets 8,000 a month. jimfields33 Jun 2021 #10
It's her effing money and what she is saying is her father Bev54 Jun 2021 #21
Sounds like it. nt RegularJam Jun 2021 #35
Hope she wins. Corgigal Jun 2021 #4
No woman should be forced to live like this. It's disgusting. n/t ms liberty Jun 2021 #6
No PERSON should be forced to live like this! Enter stage left Jun 2021 #7
I almost changed it to person but as a woman I'm getting a bit militant over this s*** lol ms liberty Jun 2021 #11
We're good... Enter stage left Jun 2021 #14
I hope she wins. Solly Mack Jun 2021 #8
That's totally abuse. Cafe Cat Jun 2021 #9
I have two minds about this. no_hypocrisy Jun 2021 #12
A trust fund with some of her assets may be a good idea. She would have control over... brush Jun 2021 #23
Good idea. I forgot about the Spendthrift Trust. no_hypocrisy Jun 2021 #24
Why can a huge portion of the population go broke... RegularJam Jun 2021 #37
Well, she's worth millions and if it's managed efficiently she won't go broke. brush Jun 2021 #40
She's 39. What she needs is a financial advisor, period. JHB Jun 2021 #25
If she lacks maturity why is she doing shows which bring in all this money ? JI7 Jun 2021 #29
Modern day slavery UpInArms Jun 2021 #13
Free Britney !! voteearlyvoteoften Jun 2021 #15
She didn't make mistakes, she had a mental break DenaliDemocrat Jun 2021 #26
Her father saved her life and fortune. Imagine if she was left alone with the Pepsidog Jun 2021 #38
None of us here has even a remote clue whats really going on. Jon King Jun 2021 #16
agree, we really don't. but the court could easily appoint stopdiggin Jun 2021 #27
Absolutely correct. There is no conspiracy to exploit her. Action were taken based upon medical Pepsidog Jun 2021 #34
Bullshit. She is paying people to imprison her. Her attorney wasn't even allowed to read the gldstwmn Jun 2021 #44
At her age, she should have the right to live her life as she wishes. She is NOT a teen any longer. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2021 #36
I agree Sgent Jun 2021 #46
Her father sounds more like a pimp than her father. lpbk2713 Jun 2021 #17
i thought the conservatorship was about controling the finances... Takket Jun 2021 #18
Apparently she's not even allowed to vote. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #31
They could do a limited conservatorship that gldstwmn Jun 2021 #43
Nice work if you can get it. That father is something, just raking in the dough off his daughter... brush Jun 2021 #19
That's crazy, she's being exploited to maximize her value bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #20
All these restrictions since 2013 and yet she was touring as recently as 2018? ck4829 Jun 2021 #22
Since 2008. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #32
Oh my, even longer then. Brain burp on my part. ck4829 Jun 2021 #33
Before the appointment she was a mess. It's an extraordinary action to put any person Pepsidog Jun 2021 #30
That was 13 years ago. Are you the same person you were 13 years ago? gldstwmn Jun 2021 #45
ACLU article about this case... Takket Jun 2021 #41
I hope she is given the opportunity to live her own life. gldstwmn Jun 2021 #42
The fact that she has a FORCED IUD seals it for me NickB79 Jun 2021 #47

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
10. She gets 8,000 a month.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 06:45 PM
Jun 2021

Not sure that’s considered slavery. However, she want to have all the money so I’d say give it to her.

Bev54

(10,047 posts)
21. It's her effing money and what she is saying is her father
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:27 PM
Jun 2021

is getting double each month than what he allows her. WTF!

ms liberty

(8,572 posts)
11. I almost changed it to person but as a woman I'm getting a bit militant over this s*** lol
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 06:47 PM
Jun 2021

They really have become blatant, with their clawing at women and our rights as if it's the only thing stopping Armageddon or something. And I seem to be losing my filter...

Enter stage left

(3,395 posts)
14. We're good...
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 06:55 PM
Jun 2021

I have a wife of 52+ years, 2 daughters, a sister, 3 SIL's, numerous aunts & female cousins, & many many female friends, and love & respect all of them.

I understand your anger & I am probably just as unhappy as you are.

Hang in, it should get better.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
8. I hope she wins.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 06:40 PM
Jun 2021

I hope for not-so-nice things for her biological male factor.

Because no decent father does that to his daughter.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
12. I have two minds about this.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 06:47 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:31 PM - Edit history (1)

I can empathize with her. My father was incredibly controlling into my 30s. When I was a teen, I had a reasonable but unfounded fear that he would go to court, make himself my guardian indefinitely, and put me into a psyche ward (complete with "medications" ). My father was a sociopath and I was on to him but to keep me off balance, he labelled me with oppositional defiant disorder. He successfully controlled my sister. Our mother would resist but lacked the energy it took to stop him. When I moved out of his house, he couldn't control me in any way, even with money. If Spears' father is using his position to control her in every little way, yeah, she should get him out of her life, even by court.

On the other hand, if Spears is not mature emotionally and/or mentally to administer her assets, then perhaps another conservator, a neutral person who isn't family, should replace her father and the matter reviewed every 3-5 years. She could learn how to manage her assets with the help of a financial advisor, not necessarily a conservator.

brush

(53,764 posts)
23. A trust fund with some of her assets may be a good idea. She would have control over...
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:30 PM
Jun 2021

a portion of her assets and income. The trust would exist so she would never go broke if it turns out she can't manage her affairs sensibly.

brush

(53,764 posts)
40. Well, she's worth millions and if it's managed efficiently she won't go broke.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:33 PM
Jun 2021

She's made a lot of money and it's still coming into her estate from royalties etc. so she's got a cushion of legally made assets most don't have.

It's kind of hard to go through sixty million as it's generating hundreds of thousands in interest just sitting there.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
25. She's 39. What she needs is a financial advisor, period.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:40 PM
Jun 2021

If she's "not mature emotionally and/or mentally to administer her assets", then that's on her. She's not a kid nor does she have some clear incapacity. Those are her assets, she can get financial advice and if she wishes she can pay people to manage portions of it, but it should be her decision, not a conservatorship.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,475 posts)
26. She didn't make mistakes, she had a mental break
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:41 PM
Jun 2021

But what obviously happened was her father used it to gain control of her money . I have a bipolar daughter and understand what controlling people in the middle of an episode looks like. This isn’t it. This is just gold digging.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
38. Her father saved her life and fortune. Imagine if she was left alone with the
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:25 PM
Jun 2021

pack of wolves who would have spent all her money and had her doing who knows what.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
16. None of us here has even a remote clue whats really going on.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:18 PM
Jun 2021

Everyone is taking wild guesses, the dad's a beast, Free her, etc.

We have no idea if what we are hearing and seeing is the truth or if her 'boyfriend' and his family are manipulating her.

The truth could from she can absolutely handle her own affairs to they end the conservatorship and within 5 years she is strung out on drugs, broke, and her boyfriend's family ends up with all her assets that she freely signs over to them.

Again...we have no clue and are merely speculating...the court has much more information from the parties, including mental health experts, as to what the real status is.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
27. agree, we really don't. but the court could easily appoint
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:04 PM
Jun 2021

a neutral 'conservator' and solve the bulk of the issues here. This probably should have already taken place. No clue why the father is still in his position over vocal objection(s). Even a person with legitimate needs for oversight has some rights in this regard. (or so I reason anyway)

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
34. Absolutely correct. There is no conspiracy to exploit her. Action were taken based upon medical
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:21 PM
Jun 2021

experts qualified to render such opinions In the best interest of Britney. A conservatorship is not granted lightly especially with someone of Britney’s status. I know I was happy to see her out of the headlines where she was visibly suffering from mental illness. This “Free Britney” movement is absurd and those pushing the conspiracy theory of Britney the victim of exploitation by her father know little about law and/or mental illness.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
44. Bullshit. She is paying people to imprison her. Her attorney wasn't even allowed to read the
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:27 PM
Jun 2021

doctor's findings. The New York Times published an excellent piece on this yesterday. Something is unholy here.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
36. At her age, she should have the right to live her life as she wishes. She is NOT a teen any longer.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:24 PM
Jun 2021

If she wants to blow it ALL, it should be HER decision, not her POS dad's.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
46. I agree
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:33 PM
Jun 2021

but there is no reason to keep her father as her conservator depending on the options. Invoke a trust company for financial conservatorship, and either release the personal one or give it to someone else.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
17. Her father sounds more like a pimp than her father.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:20 PM
Jun 2021


Maybe she can get the money back from him that he made
off her by suing for damages for screwing up her life.

Takket

(21,560 posts)
18. i thought the conservatorship was about controling the finances...
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:23 PM
Jun 2021

what i read here is terrifying. Brittney is never going to make it into mensa, but the restrictions imposed on her are the kind of thing i would only expect to hear about for a person that is completely physically and mentally disabled and unable to care for themselves in any way.

She cannot even be allowed to make a decision on her IUD??? It is terrifying to me to think that someone can even have a restriction like that imposed on them LEGALLY by a court in this country, if they are at least of sound mind and body even if not the best decision maker in the word or smartest person.

I would see restricting her access to some money so she doesn't blow it all, but... come on. Can't even make your own medical decisions???

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
31. Apparently she's not even allowed to vote.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:16 PM
Jun 2021

They're treating her as if she has no mental capacity, but she's clearly capable of working and earning millions of dollars.

No potential for abuse there at all.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
43. They could do a limited conservatorship that
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:24 PM
Jun 2021

would give her a lot more freedom. The one she has now is meant for people who are mentally incapable which she is not. She has never been legally declared so.

brush

(53,764 posts)
19. Nice work if you can get it. That father is something, just raking in the dough off his daughter...
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:24 PM
Jun 2021

and controlling her life so it doesn't end for him.

This expose though will soon end his meal ticket.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
20. That's crazy, she's being exploited to maximize her value
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:24 PM
Jun 2021

I thought there were only 2 financial pitfalls to the rich and famous - profligate spending and unscrupulous managers.

I think she needs prudent financial advisors more than a conservatorship. She sounds competent enough to select several and let them run her investments.

ck4829

(35,045 posts)
22. All these restrictions since 2013 and yet she was touring as recently as 2018?
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:30 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Tue Jun 29, 2021, 01:03 PM - Edit history (1)

If she could prove just one of these accusations, it would show she was very much exploited.

Critical Race Theory

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
30. Before the appointment she was a mess. It's an extraordinary action to put any person
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:13 PM
Jun 2021

under the control of a conservator. I have to believe the medical record’s support the Judge’s actions and now that she receives therapy and meds she can argue her case in a coherent fashion. Imagine if she is left to her own devices she will pregnant and broke within a few years. Her father saved her life and the wolves are ready to pounce should the Judge grant the the relief requested. Basically, the judge should base her decision on the medical evidence which I don’t believe the public has access to.

Takket

(21,560 posts)
41. ACLU article about this case...
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:57 PM
Jun 2021
https://www.aclu.org/news/disability-rights/how-conservatorship-threatens-britney-spears-civil-rights/?initms_aff=nat&initms_chan=soc&utm_medium=soc&initms=210622_blog_tw&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=&utm_content=210622_disabilityrights_blog&ms_aff=nat&ms_chan=soc&ms=210622_blog_tw

Britney Spears did it again — the pop singer has recently been in the news for her ongoing conservatorship and civil liberties battle with her father, Jamie Spears. This past week, Britney asked a California court to keep her father from being her conservator and having broad control over her life decisions and career. But what exactly is a conservatorship, and what are the implications of it? We sat down with Zoe Brennan-Krohn, staff attorney with the ACLU’s Disability Rights Project, to discuss Britney, conservatorship, and why this is a disability rights issue on our radar.

Q: Can you briefly explain Britney Spears’ situation, and the implications of her conservatorship case?

Britney Spears is subject to a court-imposed conservatorship (in most other states this structure is referred to as a guardianship). This means that a court has determined she is unable to provide properly for her food, clothing, or shelter. The court has then granted other people — her conservators — the legal right to make decisions for her. News reports indicate that this has been the case for Britney since 2008. While we do not know the details of Spears’ conservatorship, in general, conservators like those in her case have the ability to make decisions about all aspects of her life — where she lives, where and how she spends her money, what medications she takes, who she spends time with, and other decisions.

Q: Can you please break down, what is conservatorship? What does it mean?

Conservatorship means the court is taking away the civil liberties from one person and giving them to someone else. Sometimes it’s ALL of that person’s civil rights and civil liberties, and sometimes it’s partial. But it is the court weighing into the person’s life and saying you, as a person with a disability, are no longer able to make decisions about yourself and livelihood — such as where you live, and how you support and feed yourself — and we are putting someone else in charge of making those decisions. Because it’s such an extreme step to take, it’s really supposed to be a last resort. And once a court has put a person under a conservatorship, only a court can lift that conservatorship.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
47. The fact that she has a FORCED IUD seals it for me
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:52 PM
Jun 2021

Imagine if Kanye West or any other mentally unstable male superstar was given a forced vasectomy against their will.

That goes beyond the pale.

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