23 Shots Fired Into Home of State Senator

[babylonsister]

https://politicalwire.com/2021/07/02/23-shots-fired-into-home-of-state-senator/

23 Shots Fired Into Home of State Senator
July 2, 2021 at 9:40 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

Police are investigating multiple shots being fired into the home of Alabama state Sen. Vivian Figures (D), the Alabama Political Reporter reports.

“Figures was not home at the time of the shooting — around 5 a.m. Thursday — and has not commented on the incident.”

[Ace Rothstein]

1. With all of the rhetoric being used among right-wing media and in right-wing social media...

...this is only going to escalate. The people we're dealing with here are insane.

[Jedi Guy]

4. They're not insane.

Insanity means that you're unable to tell right from wrong, at least in the legal sense. These people think they're on the side of the angels and are fighting against evil. That is far and away more dangerous. When one views a conflict as a struggle between good and evil, well... damn near anything is justified when struggling against evil, no?

[Initech]

11. And these people are completely unable to tell right from wrong.

They have people constantly feeding them the wrong information - whether it's Joe Rogan going on an anti-vaccine tirade or Alex Jones telling people to storm the capitol or participating in an Ali Alexander "Stop The Steal" rally or Trump telling them that actual news organizations like the Washington Post suck or Tucker Carlson telling people to protest schools who dare teach critical race theory.

When you have that much toxic disinformation being fed to you 24 hours a day, you're unable to tell right from wrong.

[Jedi Guy]

12. No, insanity is literally the inability to understand right from wrong. It doesn't compute.

The people we're talking about are able to tell right from wrong, but their definition of "right" is so horribly twisted that they believe they're the good guys. Saying that they're insane is essentially letting them off the hook because "they don't know any better." Their moral compass has been inverted.

[pazzyanne]

19. You are right!

I have two siblings that embrace these "truths". I could almost agree with some of their rhetoric if I didn't know where their "truths" were coming from. They are very myopic.

[wnylib]

17. Anybody, regardless of what media or fools

they listen to knows that shooting at any person's home is wrong. It's not like there was immediate danger or self-protection involved. Just plain wrong.

The shooter had to know it was wrong. Much as I loathe the turtle and think we'd be better off without him, I would not even dream of firing into his home. It's just plain wrong.

Looks like the intent was to terrorize since the shots were fired at the home and not a person.

[Initech]

18. Oh yes, they were definitely sending a message.

And that message is: "don't fuck with us".

[wnylib]

21. Seems like the shooter should be receiving that message,

not sending it. And receive it in the legal system, not by gunshot.

[hadEnuf]

28. They are quite able to tell right from wrong.

They simply want to shoot Democrats or liberals or progressives or anyone that disagrees with them. And they have groups and powerful organizations that tacitly approve and encourage them to do just that. Many of these groups and organizations are not even very tacit anymore. Many are now openly advocating for it.


Right or wrong is just a mere matter of perspective for these people.

[patphil]

36. It's ironic that their tactics put them on the side of evil.

Good doesn't fire shots into a house.
Evil people will always justify their evil actions one way or another, but seldom acknowledge their evil intent.

[Jedi Guy]

45. That's the thing about evil.

No one wakes up in the morning and says to themselves, "Hm, how can I go about being eeeeeeeevil today?" We're all the heroes/heroines of our own personal stories and our goals are good by definition, because they're our goals. Even the Nazis thought they were the good guys, and look at the horrific atrocities they committed. Josef Mengele was a certified monster, but he thought he was advancing medical knowledge with his "research."

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. Like I have said repeatedly they're coming for all of us

[pandr32]

20. We worried about that, too

Especially if TFG managed to reinsert himself.
These renegade misfits will do damage, but out themselves in the process. Prisons may find themselves full of them.

[OverBurn]

43. I'm a heavy armed left winger. I will shoot back.

[Eliot Rosewater]

44. I am anti gun, big time, the constitution does not do what Scalia said it did in Heller

but HAVING SAID ALL THAT

I have been encouraging my liberal/progressive friends for 5 years now to buy guns.

I watched people REPEATEDLY say shit like "I WILL HOLD MY NOSE TO VOTE FOR HILLARY" or vote 3rd party.

Those people convinced enough others that were on the fence NOT to vote or vote 3rd party and here we are.

And where we are is HELL on earth.

And these trumpers ARE going to do much violence and at the end of the day many of us will not be able to rely on police or the government. Although, GLOBAL WARMING is gonna take a bunch of us out tHiS SUMMER so I may not even live long enough for them to shoot at me.

I am waiting for the HILLARY BASHERS to apologize, so far NOT ONE has.

[spanone]

2. K&R

HOLY SHIT

[Wicked Blue]

3. I hope the FBI is investigating too.

Not sure I'd trust the local police.

[lpbk2713]

6. I'm sure they must be.

It's an armed assault on a government official.
They didn't know she wasn't at home and it doesn't matter.

[Jedi Guy]

8. It may not be meat for the FBI, since it was a state senator rather than a federal senator.

It'll probably first be within the jurisdiction of the Alabama State Police, at least at first. They'll probably whistle up the feds, though, if only for the muscle they bring to the table. I may be wrong, though.

[Ilsa]

10. Yes, if it was in Texas,

the Texas Rangers would investigate, I think. Georgia has GBI, Georgia Bureau of Investigations.

[wnylib]

23. In today's political climate, I would not count on

local or state law enforcement in Alabama to do a serious investigation of shots fired at the home of a Democratic Senator.

[berni_mccoy]

42. This is terrorism and falls under federal jurisdiction

[msfiddlestix]

53. exactly, thank you.

[Grins]

37. It could have BEEN the police!

Wouldn’t be the first time.

[TheFarseer]

7. Why?

I’m sure the Ds in Alabama have zero power to do anything.

[nuxvomica]

9. Soft target

That's how terrorism usually works.

[Initech]

13. This is some seriously scary shit.

And I feel like it's only going to get worse.

[wnylib]

26. Homeland Security is warning about

domestic terrorism acts this weekend and the rest of the simmer.

[Traildogbob]

14. It's time

To take the war straight at them like the terrorists they are. Send in HLS and whatever it takes. This bullshit has been allowed to fester way too long. We are all over the world “protecting our democracy and FreeDumb”, but allow this shit to metastasize right here in our face. Prompted by Fox et al out on the open shouting to take up arms against our nation.
The Cancer is out of control attacking every vital organ, deep into the tissue of our own government.
We can cut it out, or die.

[reACTIONary]

47. HLS - Harvard Law School ?

[Traildogbob]

48. Home land Security.

Harvard is a waste catering to pansies. Look at who reps then in republican congress and senate.

[reACTIONary]

49. DHS - The Department of Homeland Security....

https://www.dhs.gov/about-dhs

[Traildogbob]

50. Slipped my mind

At editing. Excuuuuuuuuuse me. 8 years a sailer, 30 years State and Federal worker, Acronyms run together. “Must” of us error occasionally.

[reACTIONary]

51. I was being a bit picky...

Human... all too human.

[Yonnie3]

15. [Mobile Police] spokesperson told al.com that it's unclear if it was related to politics.

Mobile Police said the incident did not appear to be random, but a spokesperson told al.com that it’s unclear if it was related to politics.

from https://www.alreporter.com/2021/07/02/shots-fired-into-state-senators-home/

m'kay

[wnylib]

29. Sure, it's random. Just happened by chance

that the house is owned by a Dem Senator.

But, without more info, it is too doon to draw conclusions, I guess, even though it appears to be obvious what is going on.

[Botany]

16. Fox News, hate talkers, Trump, & Trumpers ... are cancers on America.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. FG didn't care about human life during Covid...

So the apple doesn't fall from the tree. Limiting the # lives lost from covid because of his evil mind it's not enough.

[IronLionZion]

24. Sounds like terrorism or something out of Afghanistan

or Alabama apparently. If the Alabama state police don't investigate it as terrorism, the FBI should.

[bullwinkle428]

40. I said months ago that we're going to turn into Northern Ireland, with

"sectarian violence" perpetrated on the part of MAGATs across the country.

[boyedav1969]

25. Let's hope...

...they had their cell phone with them, or were in a vehicle that had some form of GPS. Or maybe a video camera or two picked up something when they were en route.

[berniesandersmittens]

27. Senator threatened in Arkansas a few months ago

(Crosspost link)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1039&pid=3597

[hadEnuf]

30. It may come time to shoot back soon.

These f@ckers understand little else.

[COL Mustard]

31. Great. I'm Headed To Mobile Right Now

To celebrate a family event. Just fucking great.

[Submariner]

32. "Dozens of Mexican Candidates Have Been Killed in a Bloody Election Season"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/dozens-of-mexican-candidates-have-been-killed-in-a-bloody-election-season-11621941312

I fear these are the headlines we will be reading about our own country in the forthcoming "election seasons".

[LudwigPastorius]

33. The Klan/MAGAts...all the same...

This was no mere collateral damage from neighborhood violence. She was targeted. No doubt.

[ffr]

34. I hope that law enforcement finds the domestic terrorists who did this

How would they like it if people shot magazines of ammunition into their homes. I suspect, not so much.

[mountain grammy]

35. Gonna be like 63 and 68

they'll just start assassinating Democrats.

[Ferrets are Cool]

38. Right in my own hometown

Pure HATE CRIME.

[Turbineguy]

39. It seems to be working.

The RWNJ propaganda.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

41. They have started a war on us and nobody is noticing because the attacks dont

Appear to be coordinated.

[misanthrope]

46. Bigotry wouldn't be shocking

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But don't be surprised if other factors come to light.

State Sen. Figures has three sons. One is very high achieving, works in the offices of U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown. Another played basketball at Morehouse College. Sadly, the third has been in trouble most of his life. Some of it is reflected in this news story from 2018.
https://mynbc15.com/news/local/alabama-state-senators-son-arrested-again

While I don't rule out any possibility for the cause of this, State Sen. Figures isn't controversial or especially polarizing. I don't know of any reason, off the bat, she would be singled out when there are more outspoken local Black politicos in the community who regularly raise the ire of white Mobilians.

I can't help wondering if the bad seed son has anything to do with this.

[sellitman]

52. Trump's base.

No doubt.