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dlk

(11,537 posts)
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:42 PM Jul 2021

If Democrats were able to pass the For the People Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Act

Would this conservative Supreme Court just overturn them? Because you know, litigious Republicans would file multiple suits the day they were passed.

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If Democrats were able to pass the For the People Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Act (Original Post) dlk Jul 2021 OP
I guess that depends on their eagerness to Bettie Jul 2021 #1
Their numbers need to increase regardless dlk Jul 2021 #4
I agree Bettie Jul 2021 #7
Yes - honestly, any shred of restraint we see now is only because of that sword over their heads. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #16
Their numbers need to increase now regardless of all the moaning about packing courts. Nexus2 Jul 2021 #17
I agree Bettie Jul 2021 #21
I don't think so Mary in S. Carolina Jul 2021 #2
In a rational world, yes dlk Jul 2021 #6
Pukes do everything just because they can. Always another side to everything with them. pwb Jul 2021 #3
They are definitely oppositional-defiant dlk Jul 2021 #9
Yes the Roberts Court does not accept edhopper Jul 2021 #5
We need a Constitutional Amendment dlk Jul 2021 #8
Never happen edhopper Jul 2021 #10
Not in the near future, true dlk Jul 2021 #12
In the near future edhopper Jul 2021 #14
Our democracy is definitely on the precipice dlk Jul 2021 #15
We already have one, Congress can impose voting rules for congressional candidates. We have Congress uponit7771 Jul 2021 #11
It would be better to have a specific voting right spelled out in the Constitution dlk Jul 2021 #13
RIGHT !! This is the elephant in the room uponit7771 Jul 2021 #22
It seems logical dlk Jul 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author dlk Jul 2021 #24
The current SCOTUS may not have time before 2022 elections to overturn new voting laws Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #18
I like your optimism! dlk Jul 2021 #19
Yes. WarGamer Jul 2021 #20

dlk

(11,537 posts)
4. Their numbers need to increase regardless
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jul 2021

The current number gives too much importance to individual justices.

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
7. I agree
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:53 PM
Jul 2021

but striking down those two, should we manage to get them passed would underline the importance of expanding the court and pointedly showcase their right wing, "no one but rich white dudes should vote" beliefs.

Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
17. Their numbers need to increase now regardless of all the moaning about packing courts.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:47 PM
Jul 2021

McConnell essentially already has (and would do more given the chance).

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
21. I agree
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jul 2021

I think we should have at minimum 13, one for each circuit court, ideally enough to have two to four 7 judge panels running all the time.

With randomly chosen panels it is easy for justices to simply not be placed on cases where they might have even the appearance of a conflict of interest and it is much harder for lawyers to tailor an argument to a specific justice.

There could be more cases heard and the loss of one justice wouldn't be a disaster or a windfall.

 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
2. I don't think so
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jul 2021

If I am understanding correctly, in layman terms, the states can run there own elections anyway they chose, "unless congress says otherwise". I think this is Supreme Court proof.

pwb

(11,258 posts)
3. Pukes do everything just because they can. Always another side to everything with them.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jul 2021

They will try just to continue being Dicks.

edhopper

(33,543 posts)
5. Yes the Roberts Court does not accept
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:52 PM
Jul 2021

the Right to Vote is a Constitutional Right.
The will favor the States that do not adhere to these laws.

dlk

(11,537 posts)
8. We need a Constitutional Amendment
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:55 PM
Jul 2021

One that guarantees the right to vote for eligible voters. It also wouldn’t hurt to codify adequate funding for elections. Voting is foundational to our democracy.

dlk

(11,537 posts)
15. Our democracy is definitely on the precipice
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:07 PM
Jul 2021

We can’t take anything for granted at this point.

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
11. We already have one, Congress can impose voting rules for congressional candidates. We have Congress
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 04:22 PM
Jul 2021

... at the same time we have the president voted in in most states so therefore the voting happens at the same time and would be called prohibitive to have two different elections for the federal government for most states.

Therefore if Democrats are able to impose voting rules for the Congress most likely it'll hold for the presidential also

Article I, Section 4, Clause 1: The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

On the other hand I don't see the Roberts Court leaning more towards plurality in America.
There's a reason why America is lower on the democracy index than we were supposed to be

dlk

(11,537 posts)
13. It would be better to have a specific voting right spelled out in the Constitution
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 04:38 PM
Jul 2021

The Robert’s court is clearly no friend to plurality.

Response to uponit7771 (Reply #22)

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
18. The current SCOTUS may not have time before 2022 elections to overturn new voting laws
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:59 PM
Jul 2021

And because of that, passing the new laws now would help ensure Dems grow their majorities in 2022, which would allow them to more easily pass laws expanding SCOTUS from the current 9 seats up to a minimum of 15 seats, for a new 9-6 liberal majority. That would help protect voting rights by the time any appeals reach the court.

In addition, expanded Dem majorities would help pass statehood for DC and PR.

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