The eleven heavily armed men in Massachusetts who say "your laws don't apply to me", I say

[Augiedog]

here is your dingy, we will tow you a couple hundred miles offshore and set you free of our laws. You can then enjoy the absolute freedom afforded by the law of the sea….which basically is Sink or Swim.

No one has to live here in America, you are free to depart to any nation that will have you. After the orange anus’ four years of hostility toward almost every other nation on earth (remember he called pretty much all others “shitholes”) you may find it difficult to impossible to be acceptable to foreign powers. Even if you are a self described turd looking for a shithole to dwell in.

[leftieNanner]

1. Well said!

And if you don't have to follow our laws, then you don't get to use the commons.

No roads. No bridges. No electricity, gas, or water.

No public schools for your children.

ad infinitum

[Scrivener7]

2. And to these guys, I think we need to add: "And quit with the attempted home invasions."

[llashram]

15. that seems presumptive racism

based on race...

[Midnight Writer]

16. It's actually based on the past practice of this particular group.

[llashram]

17. really?

info--link?

[Scrivener7]

19. Google is your friend.

[llashram]

20. sure

anything you say...I looked...

[Scrivener7]

21. Well, I mean, you COULD just continue baselessly accusing people of racism because you're too

lazy to google it.

Up to you.

[llashram]

23. not baseless

at all

[Scrivener7]

25. Have a lovely day.

[llashram]

31. thanks

you do have a happy holiday, ya hear?

[Scrivener7]

18. No, you are the one being presumptive. Google the group.

[csziggy]

24. Cops intervene after extreme squatters 'Sovereign citizens' knock on doors of rich Seattle residents

Cops intervene after extreme squatters 'Sovereign citizens' knock on doors of rich Seattle residents and demand they hand over their mansions
By Ariel Zilber For Dailymail.com

Published: 02:23 EDT, 28 November 2020 | Updated: 04:00 EDT, 28 November 2020

A group of so-called ‘sovereign citizens’ who say they own most of the land in the Western Hemisphere have been knocking on the doors of wealthy homeowners in the Seattle area and showing fake documents alleging that their properties belong to them.

Moorish Sovereign Citizens has been labeled an extremist group of squatters who do not recognize the authority of the United States government or its laws.

According to detectives in Snohomish County, Washington State, members of the sect knocked on doors of waterfront homes in Woodway and Edmonds and informed the residents there that they were moving in, KIRO-TV reported.

‘They have basically come to say that they’re from this particular group and they’re there to repossess the home and want the people to vacate the premises,’ said Edmonds police Sergeant Josh McClure.

In each case, police were called to the area and the group cooperated after they were warned that they could be arrested for trespassing.

More: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995669/Sovereign-citizens-trying-evict-wealthy-Seattle-area-residents-police-say.html

Pair arrested for squatting in Davidson home accused of squatting in Charlotte house
January 11, 2019 at 7:55 pm EST
By DaShawn Brown, wsoctv.com and Joe Bruno, wsoctv.com

DAVIDSON, N.C. — Two people who claim allegiance to the Moorish Nation, a sovereign citizen group, were found squatting in a multimillion-dollar home for sale once owned by the parents of the mayor of Davidson.

Attorney Mark Gott said he and his colleagues have dealt with several similar cases.

“One of the issues is, there's not a great legal remedy,” Gott said.

Police said Turmaine Thorne, 30, and Taqiyah Barber, 35, used a hide-a-key to get into the home on Jan. 4.

More: https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/couple-tries-to-squat-in-davidson-multimillion-home/902000633/

Two associated with Moorish sovereign citizens group arrested for burglary in Woodway
Posted: December 21, 2020 1839

Two suspects claiming affiliation with a Moorish sovereign citizens group known for trespassing on property and claiming it as their own were arrested late Friday evening in the Town of Woodway after burglarizing a home.

A 46-year-old Mountlake Terrace man and a 32-year-old Tacoma woman were booked into the Snohomish County Jail and a suspect vehicle was impounded as evidence in the case, Edmonds police spokesperson Sgt. Josh McClure said. The Town of Woodway contracts with the City of Edmonds for police services.

The incident unfolded around 9 p.m. Friday, Dec. 18 at a residence in the 21700 block of Chinook Road in Woodway. A neighbor called to report two subjects in the house, which was vacant and had just sold. A few minutes later, the alarm company called and reported multiple trips.

Officers responded to the call as a burglary in progress, and the first officer to arrive found a vehicle parked outside the locked gate to the residence. Two suspects were seen on the other side of the gate on the private property. Arriving officers jumped the fence and were immediately met by the female suspect, who accused officers of trespassing on her property. The male suspect was recognized by officers as having been recently removed from several area homes after claiming affiliation with the Moorish group. (See our earlier story here.)

More: https://myedmondsnews.com/2020/12/two-associated-with-moorish-sovereign-citizens-group-arrested-for-burglary-in-woodway/

More stories at: https://www.google.com/search?q=moor+sovereign+citizens+squatters+rights&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALeKk03d_cWkI8s98hS4cakYGNDXynQUZw%3A1625342281752&ei=ScHgYJT6LLCmqtsPie6goAo&oq=moor+sovereign+citizens+squatters&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYADIFCCEQoAE6BwgAEEcQsAM6BggAEBYQHjoFCAAQhgM6CAghEBYQHRAeSgQIQRgAUPkcWIJpYLp-aAJwAngAgAGfAYgBkgqSAQM1LjaYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz

[getagrip_already]

3. are you crazy? do you know what that costs?

I can tow a dingy 150 miles out to sea, but that 300+ mile round trip is going to cost about $1000 just in fuel, and dingy's, even leaky ones, aren't cheap.

There has to be a cheaper solution. Really.

[Kablooie]

10. Well said.

[IronLionZion]

13. Sailboat uses no fuel and produces no emissions

[getagrip_already]

35. but they need wind..... and unless large have limited cargo space.....

A sailboat large enough for 11 passengers, plus crew, not to mention said leaky dingy, would be very large. And it would be quite slow. You would need to charter the boat and crew for 3-4 days.

It would also be very expensive. Maybe you could build a galleon ship and have the prisoners row out under their own power? But then how do you get the galleon home again?

Logistics are such a bother.

[pandr32]

4. I like your solution

We might wind up with a fleet of dinghies in international waters. Give them gear like shirts that say "I'm with stupid" and extra MAGA campaign shit we need to get rid of.

[Cinnamonspice]

5. I have a question. Were those heavily armed men white?

If so, a part of me wishes the police would treat armed white people the way they treat unarmed black people. I know that isn't right of me, but the double standard is ridiculous.

[Ron Obvious]

6. No

They called themselves the "Moorish American Arms".

https://abcnews.go.com/US/massachusetts-police-responding-group-heavily-armed-men-claiming/story?id=78647486

[blm]

7. There are also black sovereign citizen groups. Not nearly

as many as whites who are usually white supremacists as well.

[Richard58]

11. Yeah

Stupid transcends all races---unfortunately.

[sarisataka]

8. No they were black, armed and did not get shot nt

[Cinnamonspice]

36. Interesting.

There may be hope yet.

All I was reading this morning was a group of men claiming not to recognize our laws. They looked light skinned, but I guess I was looking at badly lighted pictures.

[Skittles]

29. the overwhelming majority of police encounters with black folk do not end in a shooting

and minorities can be fucked-up gun humpers too

[TheProle]

33. It really is

But probably not in the way you’re thinking.

[RobinA]

34. These Sovereigns

come in black and white. It’s a whole weird belief system. It’s popular in prison, where it’s kind of convenient to say laws don’t apply to you. It doesn’t work, but they do try it.

[LifeLongDemocratic]

9. All 11 were Arrested

They will now be where they belong - prison. Where they will be told when to wake up in the morning, when to eat, when they can go to the bathroom, when they can shower and when they must go to sleep. Even amongst the prisoners there are rules that must be followed. So much for freedom - morons.

[wellst0nev0ter]

27. Too bad we couldn't do this with the Bundy standoff

Wonder what the difference was, can't qwhite put my finger on it...

[Iggo]

28. We could. We just didn't.

And you're white about the difference.

[wellst0nev0ter]

30. 🤣🤣🤣

[LifeLongDemocratic]

39. Not a race issue

The difference was this happened in Massachusetts. Carrying a gun in Massachusetts has negative consequences regardless of your skin color.

[DavidDvorkin]

12. They're being shown that they're wrong.

[Richard58]

14. I don't understand these people.

Seriously, what do these sovereign citizens want? It seems to me they want to live in a society with no rules. They feel they don't need to pay taxes, have driver's licenses, abide by speed limits, etc. But yet they expect society to provide them with the amenities that make life possible: roads, bridges, police protection, etc. You can't have those things if you don't pay taxes.
Maybe I am wrong. I honestly don't know too much about these loons. But they seem like extreme libertarians to me. If they really want to have no rules that apply to them I suggest they go live deep in the backwoods where they won't have to have contact with civilization.

[Jedi Guy]

22. That's precisely what they want.

The sovereign citizen movement (for lack of a better term) is built on the idea that they have all the rights but none of the corresponding responsibilities. That's their whole gig.

Spend some time on YouTube watching videos on these crazies. On the one hand their ideology is deeply alarming. On the other, it's hilarious watching them freak out when they get arrested for doing something dumb.

[ancianita]

26. There was no harm, no foul,

only threat of arrest -- based on uniformed whites' fear of harm or foul -- that forced them to run for their lives @ 1:30 am.

They were going their way.

If I were them I would not have felt free to go my way, either.

If I were them, I would not trust you to fight for my rights to "life, liberty and property," or to just be left alone, either.

Yet that is what whites enjoy in the same situation 24/7. Nazis, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, White Supremacist Militias, and every hate group SPLC lists. Except for the black ones.

The black hate groups are special, aren't they.

[jmowreader]

32. It certainly seems to me...

...that these people would be happy to sign a document that says “if you refuse to follow the laws, you also give up any protection these laws provide.”

Of course, they wouldn’t ever do it. Shoshone County Sheriff for Life* Mitch Alexander retired from law enforcement and is now selling cars because he finally got tired of running service calls to arrest people who’d wronged sovereign citizens...who, if the SCs were in the wrong, would tell his deputies “your laws don’t apply to me.”

* I call him Sheriff for Life because he was so good and so well liked no one ever ran against him. He is a Democrat but the Republicans over there were just in love with him.

[Captain Zero]

37. Moorish license plates in my apt. Parking lot

They just happen to back it into a space so that any security or police can't see it. This is Indiana. No front plate on our cars, just rear.

But this 'Moorish' Sovereign plate has a number and brief explanation.

The way I see it.
I'm paying his share of road taxes that are collected from plate fees.
I can't believe he hasn't been pulled over driving it on the roads here.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

38. I can just imagine how the right-wing-o'sphere will spin this....

for at least the next month...... .......

eg...

"BLM militia group misses their routing into Washington, DC for Independence Day armed riot, only to be captured after running out of gas in Massachusetts".

Would not surprise me one bit to hear it out of Tucker's mouth.......