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And Hobby Lobby goes full fascist. (Original Post) Initech Jul 2021 OP
K&R! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #1
Wait for it - that's the only place that I can buy "insert thing here". Like Facebook. nt JanMichael Jul 2021 #2
Meh. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #20
My message to Fascistbook: "Insert thing here." lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #89
The one that was closest to me in the next small town over... Laffy Kat Jul 2021 #3
I wouldn't shop there if you paid me! Initech Jul 2021 #4
I live in Boulder County, CO, and we won't either! Laffy Kat Jul 2021 #15
they did pay our daughter, when she worked there. yellowdogintexas Jul 2021 #31
There is a product that only Hobby Lobby sells locally. LeftInTX Jul 2021 #102
It's still around...changed its name to "At Home" after a buyout MerryHolidays Jul 2021 #107
They don't carry the same products at all...There are no more arts and crafts. No floral. LeftInTX Jul 2021 #129
There are 2 Hobby Lobbies in my area. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #73
There is a Michael's and a JoAnn Fabric wnylib Jul 2021 #75
I'm a Michael's customer. calimary Jul 2021 #127
So they are deliberately limiting their customers to right wing christians who do crafts. milestogo Jul 2021 #5
reminds me of the Sandy and Richard Riccardi on hobby lobby craft hour. niyad Jul 2021 #27
Why do companies do this crazy political shit? Nt XanaDUer2 Jul 2021 #6
Because they are people! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jul 2021 #106
Is that an actual city paper? alphafemale Jul 2021 #7
Register Guard is the main paper in Eugene. OR captain queeg Jul 2021 #8
It's the city paper for Eugene, Oregon-a very progressive city. The paper was family owned until jalan48 Jul 2021 #9
It's supposedly from "The Register-Guard", located... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #10
Hobby Lobby had the same full-page "Christian Nation" ad in my newspaper, summer_in_TX Jul 2021 #93
Yes, Hobby Lobby apparently made a deal with Gannett. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #99
The Christian Nation types are hell-bent on Dominion, theocracy. summer_in_TX Jul 2021 #132
Heck... cab67 Jul 2021 #100
It's both. ZZenith Jul 2021 #52
It's the newspaper in Eugene, also covering Springfield, which is next door across the river. Shrike47 Jul 2021 #64
Oh my. You just gave me an idea. wnylib Jul 2021 #77
Oh I love this idea JustAnotherGen Jul 2021 #114
I would, too, but. there aren't any wnylib Jul 2021 #124
it was in other newspapers across the country too, according to some of the tweets... IcyPeas Jul 2021 #11
Found it! It's worse than you think. nolabear Jul 2021 #12
Sure, how about Amish? multigraincracker Jul 2021 #13
An Amish guy sold me a deaf sow. A small time swindle he wouldn't do within his community. jaxexpat Jul 2021 #51
Puppy mill breeders too TexasBushwhacker Jul 2021 #123
Way too liberal. SergeStorms Jul 2021 #65
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2021 #72
those ego's need popping stillcool Jul 2021 #14
"I'm a great Christian", said THE Donald. How'd that work out? czarjak Jul 2021 #16
Fascist no, Theocratic like the Taliban - Yes LiberalArkie Jul 2021 #17
Well, anything 'cratic that gives those in power more of the same. erronis Jul 2021 #28
Fascist yes. Voltaire2 Jul 2021 #116
Doesn't Michael's have its own set of problems? luv2fly Jul 2021 #18
I did some reading and found out Michael's started out in Dallas yellowdogintexas Jul 2021 #35
Thanks I looked briefly too luv2fly Jul 2021 #45
I did some reading and found out Michael's started out in Dallas yellowdogintexas Jul 2021 #53
They pray upon us... Moon_Dog Jul 2021 #19
They were never far from it. Hugin Jul 2021 #21
Our home town paper had the full page ad as well today. KS Toronado Jul 2021 #22
I noticed they included a quote from Jefferson dflprincess Jul 2021 #54
With a pair of scissors ! 🤣 reACTIONary Jul 2021 #86
I noticed this as well. I kept looking for who had taken out the ad, and found LuckyLib Jul 2021 #101
I haven't set foot in a Hobby Lobby in years. Grammy23 Jul 2021 #23
Hobby Lobby has a product that no one else carries...or carries it in quantities I need... LeftInTX Jul 2021 #103
Full theocratic, not full fascist. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #24
I have a habit.... paleotn Jul 2021 #25
Me too leftieNanner Jul 2021 #33
Ditto this Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #42
Same here. Scottie Mom Jul 2021 #56
We have a Popeye's within a 10 minute walk of our house. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jul 2021 #105
Ah, but even there lurks theocratic danger!!!! hatrack Jul 2021 #110
Same here wryter2000 Jul 2021 #63
Episcopalian cradler here too. leftieNanner Jul 2021 #68
Nice to "meet" you wryter2000 Jul 2021 #70
See ya in church! leftieNanner Jul 2021 #71
Yup - I automatically distrust any business that advertises its religious ties. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #90
Can't vendors on Amazon or eBay undercut them? bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #26
First Dan PATRICK censoring books, now Lobby barfing again. My own encounter UTUSN Jul 2021 #29
How patriotic. rsdsharp Jul 2021 #30
It seems our country has always been led by Christians, or at least they said they were. patphil Jul 2021 #32
Hobby Lobby has always been a company of exclusion. Dreampuff Jul 2021 #34
You are so very correct. What Would Jesus Do? Not this. n/t Beartracks Jul 2021 #37
What about China, where all their merchandise comes from? Beartracks Jul 2021 #36
Just checked because I never noticed them. No HL in the 5 Boroughs of NYC. 👍 electric_blue68 Jul 2021 #38
Unfortunately, I still have a balance on a gift card so I am going to have to use it. Katinfl Jul 2021 #39
Better you should get the use of the money than it stay in their pockets Maeve Jul 2021 #41
Yes please use the balance. halfulglas Jul 2021 #94
How to sell your HL gift card to a RWNJ Tiger8 Jul 2021 #113
Good thing Biden is Christian, TFG was very sinful with his porn stars IronLionZion Jul 2021 #40
Our most Christian presidents from the last several decades are Dems wryter2000 Jul 2021 #66
And Yet The Evangelicals Love Him COL Mustard Jul 2021 #74
The one by my house has shut down. MagickMuffin Jul 2021 #43
I've been in one looking for stuff for my kids' science projects but onetexan Jul 2021 #44
I'd like to see a copy of the ad RVN VET71 Jul 2021 #46
Here's a link. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #76
It was in the Minneapolis Star Tribune today as well dflprincess Jul 2021 #47
Nothing new Rebl2 Jul 2021 #48
Worked for Hoblob Inc for a couple weeks back in the nineties Mersky Jul 2021 #49
Christianity and the Bible witnessed for,... by theft and fraud by the Hobby Lobby Museum.. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #50
Right, I forgot about this! mrsadm Jul 2021 #125
ugh! bluboid Jul 2021 #55
Well then how does Hobby Lobby explain The Slobfather? Blue Owl Jul 2021 #57
Oh yes he is! SergeStorms Jul 2021 #80
So glad to hear Michael's is good wryter2000 Jul 2021 #58
I won't even go in there. nt leftyladyfrommo Jul 2021 #59
Family Owned Business, Run By GB_RN Jul 2021 #60
true . A un-American pos company rockfordfile Jul 2021 #97
Same ad in the Santa Fe New Mexican today. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2021 #61
This is disgusting! Upthevibe Jul 2021 #62
Most of the Founders believed in Freedom From Religion pjpossum Jul 2021 #79
Will HL start putting these signs up? DBoon Jul 2021 #67
Wouldn't surprise me. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #78
Hobby Lobby probably has kairos12 Jul 2021 #69
American Taliban wants to throw out the Constitution and rule by (their interpretation of) the Bible CousinIT Jul 2021 #81
I've never shopped in one but I have been in one with a friend. llmart Jul 2021 #82
Hven't darkened their door in ages and never will again. lark Jul 2021 #83
Are we taking about the artefact smuggling Hobby Lobby Firestorm49 Jul 2021 #84
I haven't been in a HL in over a decade. MetalMama Jul 2021 #85
Same ad in the Seattle Times today.... albacore Jul 2021 #87
I shop at Michaels and Joann, would nver set foot in that shithole. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #88
The Hobby Lobby Jesus requires a prepay RainCaster Jul 2021 #91
Hobby Lobby can go Seig Heil themselves! amb123 Jul 2021 #92
This is part of their sick, twisted fundamentalist fantasies. Like the "End Times" bullshit. Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #95
Michaels is better Lithos Jul 2021 #96
Etsy eShirl Jul 2021 #98
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #104
Saw this political cartoon as a reply. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #108
That's excellent! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #109
The Gospel according to Q. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2021 #111
Because nothing prepares you for leadership like a good grounding Sibelius Fan Jul 2021 #112
one nation under who's god? llashram Jul 2021 #115
I have been boycotting this chain for a very long time LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #117
They Can't Survive Here... TheJillMill Jul 2021 #118
Now their building in Ithaca has a Trader Joe's! mrsadm Jul 2021 #126
News like this is why I joined DU traitorsgalore Jul 2021 #119
Howdy uppityperson Jul 2021 #133
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jul 2021 #134
I'm an atheist, and they ain't gettin' my money. Goodheart Jul 2021 #120
I regret that we don't have a Hobby Lobby here. BobTheSubgenius Jul 2021 #121
Haven't been to a hobby lobby and now i have another reason mdbl Jul 2021 #122
Haven't been inside a Hobby Lobby UpInArms Jul 2021 #128
They took over a large space in the mall here moose65 Jul 2021 #130
I was only in there once Deep State Witch Jul 2021 #131

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
3. The one that was closest to me in the next small town over...
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:08 PM
Jul 2021

Had to close due to lack of business. Everyone boycotted them.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
15. I live in Boulder County, CO, and we won't either!
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jul 2021

That's why they had to close up shop. Boycotts work!

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
31. they did pay our daughter, when she worked there.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jul 2021

We quit shopping there after she quit because of the way she was treated. This was way back before the ACA and the birth control issue.

When she started work, she told the manager she was available any day or time except Thursdays after 4 pm. She had signed up for an adult ballet class with her old dance studio and was really enjoying it.

So what did the guy who made up the work calendar do? He scheduled her to work from 4 pm to close on Thursdays! She was always able to get it changed, but why should she have had to do that?

She had thought she would really enjoy it there because she is an artist and she could get a discount on her art supplies.

We have never given them a penny since.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
102. There is a product that only Hobby Lobby sells locally.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:51 AM
Jul 2021

I could get it from Amazon...

Michael's charges an arm and a leg and never has it in stock...

I buy the entire stock at Hobby Lobby, because this is what I use to kill hackberries, snail seed, and all the woody weeds in my yard. I cut the stem. Put weed killer on and cap it with these. If I don't cap it the weed killer doesn't work as well. Also capping it prevents weed killer from getting on other plants. I buy about 10 packs every year.

Garden Ridge Pottery used to have EVERYTHING...It was my go-to store, but they went out of business. I don't know what happened with Garden Ridge..Garden Ridge used to compete with Michaels...But maybe Hobby Lobby was too much competition..

Garden Ridge was super popular......I don't know what happened.


https://www.hobbylobby.com/Floral-Wedding/Floral-Supplies/Wire-Tools/Green-Floral-Water-Picks---4-3-4/p/4499




LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
129. They don't carry the same products at all...There are no more arts and crafts. No floral.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:36 PM
Jul 2021

It's now furniture and furnishings

They don't sell floral tubes or anything that resembles them...Heck they don't even sell floral foam....

https://www.athome.com/

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
73. There are 2 Hobby Lobbies in my area.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:31 PM
Jul 2021

There's a HL 3 miles north of me and another one 4.5 miles to the south! I'm surprised one of them hasn't run the other out of business by now.

I haven't shopped at either one since they went to court to avoid having to provide birth control coverage on their health care plan.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
75. There is a Michael's and a JoAnn Fabric
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:45 PM
Jul 2021

i my community, plus a few small, locally owned craft and fabric stores. No Hobby Lobby, fortunately, and not likely to be one because the market here would not sustain another store of this type.

But I would never go near one if there was one here, or in any other community where I might shop.

Hope they all go out of business.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
127. I'm a Michael's customer.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jul 2021

Never Hobby Lobby.

Merely an extension of my “don’t buy books by crooks” policy.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
5. So they are deliberately limiting their customers to right wing christians who do crafts.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:10 PM
Jul 2021

Does not seem like a good business model.

captain queeg

(10,173 posts)
8. Register Guard is the main paper in Eugene. OR
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:17 PM
Jul 2021

I assume that’s the one. But they probably don’t do a brisk business in Eugene.

jalan48

(13,860 posts)
9. It's the city paper for Eugene, Oregon-a very progressive city. The paper was family owned until
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jul 2021

a few years ago when it was bought by Gannett Inc, the publisher of USA today and lots of local newspapers around the country.

summer_in_TX

(2,735 posts)
93. Hobby Lobby had the same full-page "Christian Nation" ad in my newspaper,
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 12:00 AM
Jul 2021

the Austin American-Statesman. I noticed The Register-Guard is owned by Gannett. I think Gannett owned or owns USA Today, which now owns the Austin newspaper.

Anyone with the time to do the research required to find opposite quotes from the Founding Fathers, Supreme Court Justices, Presidents, and folks like Alexis de Tocqueville they quoted would be doing a great thing.

I've found there's a long standing organization called Americans United for Separation of Church and State (au.org), established in 1948, got their email address, and emailed them to implore them to address it. I feel sure they have a body of history and quotes that will help them to pull something together.

This Christian Nation ideology is dangerous, fascistic, ahistorical pap.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
99. Yes, Hobby Lobby apparently made a deal with Gannett.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:07 AM
Jul 2021

I didn't previously know that Gannett owned so many newspapers around the country!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gannett

It probably just means Hobby Lobby was desperate to spread their propaganda as widely as possible, while minimizing their number of business contacts to accomplish it.

The 1st Amendment protects such nonsense, since Gannett isn't the government. It's troublesome that Hobby Lobby is trying to convince people to oppose the Constitution's 1st Amendment which also declares separation of church and state. So they're apparently cherry-picking the parts of the Constitution that they like, typical of many so-called Christians who disregard Bible passages attributed to Jesus which instructs followers to give up all their worldly possessions.

It's mostly the religious types who are most strongly compelled to convert others, like the evangelicals, who keep trying to overthrow our Constitutional protections for the sake of their religion.

Thanks for sharing information about Americans United for Separation of Church and State!

Freedom From Religion is another such organization:
https://ffrf.org/

summer_in_TX

(2,735 posts)
132. The Christian Nation types are hell-bent on Dominion, theocracy.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 09:51 PM
Jul 2021

Some of the Exvangelicals I follow on Twitter are clear that is their goal.

In concert with the Trumpists, the RW militias, and all the Koch-beholden Republican legislators across the country, they seem to be creeping ever toward their goal.

cab67

(2,992 posts)
100. Heck...
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:13 AM
Jul 2021

It might be worth researching the quotes in the HL ad. I’m willing to bet a lot of them are missing some context.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
64. It's the newspaper in Eugene, also covering Springfield, which is next door across the river.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jul 2021

The Hobby Lobby is in Springfield. I buy crafts frequently, but not there ever., although I did have a fantasy of going in there in a burka carrying an AK-whatever just to get them excited.

I saw the ad this morning. It’s revolting.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
77. Oh my. You just gave me an idea.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:53 PM
Jul 2021

Would love to see a movement get started to show up in Hobby Lobby stores in identifying clothing and /or jewelry for non Christian faiths. Groups of obviously non Christian people in stores (just browsing, not spending money in such a place), moving about quietly looking at merchandise, price cmparing, etc.

Wonder if they would try to stop them from being there.

JustAnotherGen

(31,813 posts)
114. Oh I love this idea
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 09:52 AM
Jul 2021

I don't shop there. My hobby is miniatures. I can buy kits and DIY supplies online from niche suppliers that far surpass anything the big box craft stores sell.

But I'd dress up and window shop at one.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
51. An Amish guy sold me a deaf sow. A small time swindle he wouldn't do within his community.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:52 PM
Jul 2021

Cost me about $1000. I told him I wanted sow A but he insisted sow B was better. I finally gave in and heard that he was later seen laughing about it with his friends at the local ice cream stand. Some days are harder to be Christ-like than others.
Those people and their stock suffer from inbreeding. Causes birth defects like deafness and a higher than average rate of Down's syndrome.

A question remains, however, how they market their Downs syndrome kids?

Loogootee, Indiana, the place where many live like it was 1850 and women are chattel because the wives don't know any better since they don't get out much.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
123. Puppy mill breeders too
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jul 2021

Little regard for animal life beyond it making them money. Little regard for female humans either.

SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
65. Way too liberal.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:13 PM
Jul 2021

Those darned Amish. Allowed to grow facial hair! And don't forget about Rumspringa!!!!! Much too wild for serious hypocritical christians.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
28. Well, anything 'cratic that gives those in power more of the same.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:47 PM
Jul 2021

They use whatever brainwashing techniques work best for their audience.
Midwest - bible-thumping
Western - gun-humping
Everywhere - bashing other races, creeds, sexes, etc.
Financial - fear of "socialism"

Voltaire2

(13,017 posts)
116. Fascist yes.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 10:29 AM
Jul 2021

Fascism sells itself as the party of god and nation. It wraps its authoritarianism in the flag and carries the cross.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
18. Doesn't Michael's have its own set of problems?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:33 PM
Jul 2021

I can't recall the details but I thought they had their own set of right-wing Christian fascist issues from some years ago?

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
35. I did some reading and found out Michael's started out in Dallas
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:01 PM
Jul 2021

when the founder successfully converted a failing Ben Franklin store into a crafting store

There was no mention of anything RW or Christo Fascist in the Wiki article. I have this vague recollection of the two main chains within the empire (MJ Designs & Michael's) separating because one of the original founders was gay but I think that was rumor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michaels

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
53. I did some reading and found out Michael's started out in Dallas
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:58 PM
Jul 2021

when the founder successfully converted a failing Ben Franklin store into a crafting store

There was no mention of anything RW or Christo Fascist in the Wiki article. I have this vague recollection of the two main chains within the empire (MJ Designs & Michael's) separating because one of the original founders was gay but I think that was rumor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michaels

Moon_Dog

(21 posts)
19. They pray upon us...
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:35 PM
Jul 2021

Bad mix. Capitalism and X fundamentalists.
I remember seeing a list of X operated companies on one of my Atheist web sites years ago with the interest to inform those who may wish to personally boycott any. I looked but did not find it. Would anyone have such a link or recommendation?

KS Toronado

(17,205 posts)
22. Our home town paper had the full page ad as well today.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:41 PM
Jul 2021

Only way to know that HQbby LQbby paid for it was very fine print at the bottom I used a magnifying glass
to read. They were scraping the bottom of the barrel with quotes from people who have been dead 150-200
years.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
54. I noticed they included a quote from Jefferson
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:59 PM
Jul 2021

I gather they aren't aware he took it upon himself to rewrite the New Testament

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
101. I noticed this as well. I kept looking for who had taken out the ad, and found
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:36 AM
Jul 2021

"Hobby Lobby" at the bottom of the page in microscopically tiny letters. So, you love getting the message out there, huh? But don't want to own it? And don't want folks to bypass it if your name was at the top of the page in big letters. Give it a rest! The only benefit is supporting local newspapers, which need all the ad revenue they can get.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
23. I haven't set foot in a Hobby Lobby in years.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:44 PM
Jul 2021

They carry a lot of stuff, Temping stuff for crafters and hobbyist. Decorating wannabes. But then I remember why I stopped going there in the first place. The Joann’s and Michael’s Stores are about the same distance as HL. But I don’t even go there much these days. Lots better on my wallet. Lol. Besides, I have a room full of craft supplies. When I get the urge to shop, I go in there and glance around. Bwahaha!

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
103. Hobby Lobby has a product that no one else carries...or carries it in quantities I need...
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 03:06 AM
Jul 2021

The only other places are wholesale to florists

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
25. I have a habit....
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:44 PM
Jul 2021

of NOT doing business with anyone who brazenly advertises their religion as part of their business schtick. If they have a fish, a cross or any other religious icon on their ad or sign, they're not getting any of my money. Period. "Shop here! We're good religious types!" Uh, no. It's been my experience that those people are nearly always corrupt and will screw you in a moment's notice. Same goes for politicians.

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
56. Same here.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:02 PM
Jul 2021

Have not been in a Hobby Lobby in years and Chick Fascist has been off my list for just about as long. Same for Walmart.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,956 posts)
105. We have a Popeye's within a 10 minute walk of our house.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 07:18 AM
Jul 2021

And I think their chicken sandwiches are pretty good.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
110. Ah, but even there lurks theocratic danger!!!!
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 07:53 AM
Jul 2021

You see, it's not "Popeye's" - it's a Catholic recruiting center: "Pope Yes!"

wryter2000

(46,037 posts)
63. Same here
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:11 PM
Jul 2021

And I'm a devout Episcopalian, but I avoid anyone who flaunts their supposed sanctity. It usually goes along with a lot of hateful nonsense.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
68. Episcopalian cradler here too.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:18 PM
Jul 2021

But that's my business. I detest the public "Christianity". Especially because it usually goes hand-in-hand with very un-Christ-like attitudes and behaviors. I don't think I've ever heard the Gospel that extols cruelty for cruelty's sake.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
90. Yup - I automatically distrust any business that advertises its religious ties.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:17 PM
Jul 2021

And that includes the religion business itself (churches).

bucolic_frolic

(43,135 posts)
26. Can't vendors on Amazon or eBay undercut them?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:45 PM
Jul 2021

It should be a liberal project. Because it's possible. Import from China and resell. Begin with their most popular merchandise.

UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
29. First Dan PATRICK censoring books, now Lobby barfing again. My own encounter
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jul 2021

Nothing new, the wingnut Fascists have always paraded their ignorance of democracy and ballyhooed their intent to establish their own version of Sharia. They’re just being EVEN more blatant. Meanwhile the ignorant wingnuts barf about Libruls wanting to impose “wokeness” and all kinds of dangerous freedoms on their po’iddle wingnut selves. Just wondering: The ‘wingners used to be FOR the military, small government, “freedom/liberty” – and suddenly they’ve got nothing left. Nothing left IN PUBLIC, that is because it was always a sham about them.

By the bye, my own encounter with a Hobby Lobbiest several years ago: He was selling mattresses, chatted, told how he had been a very high level employee of the Hobby Lobby outfit, his office in the headquarters a few doors down from the actual head man. That he had to leave eventually because his daughter became severely disabled and he needed to focus only at home, although the Hobby owner was generous about some kind of financial or insurance exit support. But his story was that the entire Lobby empire does NOT use COMPUTERS at all, that the top tier of administrators have tried begging him to allow automation to no avail, that the owner has it in his Will that if his heirs *ever* try to make any changes to the empire they will forfeit their inheritance.






patphil

(6,169 posts)
32. It seems our country has always been led by Christians, or at least they said they were.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jul 2021

"Good Christians" have done a lot of despicable things over the centuries. I prefer to keep religion out of government. Just as our founding fathers wanted it.
Besides, I don't trust any leader who characterizes him/herself as a "good christian". If you truly are, you don't need to proclaim it.
If you have to proclaim it, you probably aren't.

Dreampuff

(778 posts)
34. Hobby Lobby has always been a company of exclusion.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:58 PM
Jul 2021

They have always had crazy ideas and hide behind Christianity in order to promote them. They want to exclude everyone who isn't White, isn't straight, dares have sex before marriage, Etc. Exclusion and being judgemental is not Christianity even if they think so.

Katinfl

(156 posts)
39. Unfortunately, I still have a balance on a gift card so I am going to have to use it.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:08 PM
Jul 2021

After that, probably will not shop there again. The only way I have the balance on the gift card is because they messed up framing something and would not give us a refund…….hence, the gift card. Never again.

Maeve

(42,281 posts)
41. Better you should get the use of the money than it stay in their pockets
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:10 PM
Jul 2021

So spend it as you will!

I gave up on them some time ago. Never could find what I want there, anyway

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
94. Yes please use the balance.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 12:39 AM
Jul 2021

Businesses adore gift cards because people often spend more than they intended because they have a gift card, so they get the original purchase, then the additional amount. They also love the people who forget they have a balance because that's money in their pocket for nothing.

 

Tiger8

(432 posts)
113. How to sell your HL gift card to a RWNJ
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 09:38 AM
Jul 2021
https://www.raise.com/sell-hobby-lobby-gift-cards

This way, you don't have to dirty yourself by darkening the doors of HL - and the RWNJ who gets your card was going to spend the money there anyway.

IronLionZion

(45,431 posts)
40. Good thing Biden is Christian, TFG was very sinful with his porn stars
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:09 PM
Jul 2021

and multiple divorces having 5 children with 3 different women. Trump isn't very Christian

wryter2000

(46,037 posts)
66. Our most Christian presidents from the last several decades are Dems
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:16 PM
Jul 2021

Carter and Biden do Christianity the way Jesus would approve. The Bible thumpers, not so much.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
74. And Yet The Evangelicals Love Him
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:31 PM
Jul 2021

Cognitive dissonance runs strong in them. I’m related to some, and I can’t even have a conversation about him with them. Infuriating.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
44. I've been in one looking for stuff for my kids' science projects but
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jul 2021

Never found anything useful. Their stuff is also priced higher than other places.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
46. I'd like to see a copy of the ad
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:37 PM
Jul 2021

just to help me gauge how far fascist right they’ve gone. I’ve never -- repeat never -- shopped there and will continue not shopping there because of their corporate homophobia and, frankly, fuck their hateful pseudo-christian pose. But I’m curious to see just how heavy handed -- and uncalled for, of course -- the ad is.

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
76. Here's a link.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:50 PM
Jul 2021

Go here: https://www.hobbylobby.com/about-us/holiday-messages

There is a whole gallery of ads like this that they have run on Christmas, Easter, and the Fourth of July in the past. This latest one is at the top of the page!

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
49. Worked for Hoblob Inc for a couple weeks back in the nineties
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:48 PM
Jul 2021

They’ve been Christian nationalists the whole time. I was young and dumb, so didn’t pushback when they asked if I went to church during the interview for a menial position setting up a new store. My atheist self replied that I’d been to church. I just wanted the job — doing store setups was like being paid to workout.

Lemme tell you, it still is one of the worst work experiences I’ve ever had - and I was a realtor for a short stint, so ya know, that’s saying something. Was like Lord of the Flies in there competing for materials and equipment needed to do the job safely and efficiently. Other workers would take my box knife if I set it down for a minute or literally scoot a stack of glass dividers off the dolly when I paused to speak to one of the floor managers. Another asshole took my loaded wheel truck. Seriously. I quit the same day, I’d had enough of their culture and ways of doing business.

I haven’t purchased anything at a Hobby Lobby since. Now they’re out there wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. I’m disgusted with them anew, however familiar the sensation is with regards to Hoblob.

keithbvadu2

(36,776 posts)
50. Christianity and the Bible witnessed for,... by theft and fraud by the Hobby Lobby Museum..
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:50 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Sun Jul 4, 2021, 06:21 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029293684

http://www.newsweek.com/hobby-lobby-iraq-antiquities-evangelicals-632434

Christianity and the Bible witnessed for, honored, enhanced, exemplified, glorified and displayed by theft and fraud by the Hobby Lobby Museum..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141964644

Hobby Lobby Surrenders 245 More Smuggled Iraq Artifacts

bluboid

(560 posts)
55. ugh!
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:02 PM
Jul 2021

the only Hobby Lobby I've ever been in was in 2005 in Colorado & the nano second I saw the Chritian this & Christian that displays, I got outta there. the Hobby Lobby in the next town over from where I now live looked like a hollowed out/beat up scene from WW2 the last time I shopped in that area. it literally had NO CARS parked anywhere near it. I asked a friend who does shop there occasionally if it was closed due to the pandemic & she said no.

I always go to Joanne's or Michael's or go online instead.

Blue Owl

(50,350 posts)
57. Well then how does Hobby Lobby explain The Slobfather?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:03 PM
Jul 2021

He ain't no Christian, no matter how many fucking upside-down bibles he holds in the air...

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SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
80. Oh yes he is!
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 06:43 PM
Jul 2021

He preyed with all the top phoney christians in the U.S. and Jebus forgave all his previous sins. No word on the sins he's committed since that little charade, but he's been born again, as far as the phoney christians are concerned.

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
78. Wouldn't surprise me.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:58 PM
Jul 2021

Of course, they'd need to translate into English and add wording to make it work for 2021. Something like this:

Jews, atheists, agnostics, and all other heathens not served here.
The rest of you can come in as long as you behave yourselves.

CousinIT

(9,240 posts)
81. American Taliban wants to throw out the Constitution and rule by (their interpretation of) the Bible
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 06:52 PM
Jul 2021

They want a Theocracy, not a Democracy.

aka Dominionism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_theology

llmart

(15,536 posts)
82. I've never shopped in one but I have been in one with a friend.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 07:14 PM
Jul 2021

Nothing but crap made in China. The one I've been in has closed up shop and it's in a red area of my county.

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
84. Are we taking about the artefact smuggling Hobby Lobby
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:40 PM
Jul 2021

or the worker discriminating Hobby Lobby? Or, the Jesus be damned “our beliefs are the only beliefs” Hobby Lobby?

I’ve never set foot in a HL and never will. Same goes for Burger King after they fled to Canada to “save taxes” after the average Joe made their Board of Directors filthy rich.

MetalMama

(83 posts)
85. I haven't been in a HL in over a decade.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:00 PM
Jul 2021

Since they wouldn't approve of my bi-racial, bi-sexual daughter, I didn't want to give them any of my money. Plus, when I once briefly thought about working there, I took one look at the application and decided no way. The application basically says it their way or no way. If a person disagrees with anything their higher ups say or do, there's no recourse. You're screwed.

I will travel the 50 miles to the nearest Michael's or Joann's to get my crafting supplies. (I live in a small town, far from everything.)

albacore

(2,398 posts)
87. Same ad in the Seattle Times today....
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:08 PM
Jul 2021

336,000 Sunday circulation.

I read it and threw up in my mouth a little.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
95. This is part of their sick, twisted fundamentalist fantasies. Like the "End Times" bullshit.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 12:40 AM
Jul 2021

These people are very fucked up in the head. Fundamentalist christianity is a degenerate death cult.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
96. Michaels is better
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 12:59 AM
Jul 2021

And given the politics is my preferred stop.

Would love to know of a non-Amazon online store too if anyone cares to share.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
109. That's excellent!
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 07:52 AM
Jul 2021

And I happen to have a personal resentment against Hobby Lobby, they now have their local store in building where I worked for many years and they bought the historic campus where I went to school. So it sure seems to me like they're trying to take over!

Sibelius Fan

(24,396 posts)
112. Because nothing prepares you for leadership like a good grounding
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 08:55 AM
Jul 2021

in make believe (religion).

Assholes.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
115. one nation under who's god?
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 10:28 AM
Jul 2021

so sick of these so-called white national kkkristians trying to get back to 'paradise'. If they could it would be a garden full of snakes called kkkristians.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,130 posts)
117. I have been boycotting this chain for a very long time
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 10:35 AM
Jul 2021

They are nut cases and as a Jew, I really do not want to associate with these nutcases

TheJillMill

(34 posts)
118. They Can't Survive Here...
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 10:40 AM
Jul 2021

Hobby Lobby opened a few years ago in progressive Ithaca, New York before the SCOTUS decision but after they were reputed to refuse to sell Hanukkah goods. I did a citizen's reporter inspection of the store. A common shopping day, six cars in the lot, two employees in the store, one customer, and packed almost 100% packed with goods made in China where abortion ironically was reported to be forced full term for violators of the one-child policy, and one customer. Surprise, surprise that they closed not a long time later...

traitorsgalore

(1,396 posts)
119. News like this is why I joined DU
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 11:21 AM
Jul 2021

These fascists need to be exposed to the light of day, across the entire country for all to see just how horrible they are.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
130. They took over a large space in the mall here
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:37 PM
Jul 2021

After JC Penney closed, Hobby Lobby took over the space along with a couple adjacent and opened a huge store. I’ve been in there exactly one time, just to see what was there. I was not impressed - the place is filled with cheap Chinese shit. No thanks!

Deep State Witch

(10,424 posts)
131. I was only in there once
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:57 PM
Jul 2021

When the local one opened, I thought I'd go in for S&G's. Too much cheap, Chinese-made Christian crap. And their bead selection SUCKED. Why should I shop there when I have a Michael's at the entrance to my subdivision?

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