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I've see some discussion at Experian that five cards are optimal for your Credit Score. Personally, I have two in my name, each with a purpose: an Amex which gets me status points on Delta, and a Barclays card with Chip and PIN technology for Europe.
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Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)brooklynite
(94,334 posts)Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)yellowdogintexas
(22,231 posts)They are in a desk drawer and I never use them to buy anything.
I achieved a long standing goal this week: I got all of them on the same balance transfer card at 0% interest until 9/22 !
Jedi Guy
(3,175 posts)I've never heard that five credit cards is optimal. I was taught that what's much more important is your DTI (debt to income ratio) and your credit utilization (balance vs. limit). For the latter, you want to carry a balance that's roughly 30% of your limit or less. More than that and it may actually lower your score even if you're making payments on time.
SYFROYH
(34,162 posts)Im not looking for any other cars
Vinca
(50,237 posts)purely for convenience like buying gas, keeping track of office supplies and to have in case of some dire emergency. A few months ago we paid off our mortgages, too, and when I checked the credit rating while paying the Citicard, the rating went down 30 points. Go figure. I thought once all your bills are paid off it would go up, but apparently if you don't have recurring payments they keep track off they figure you're dead or something. LOL. I don't really care since the score is still very good and I don't want to incur any debt anyway.
Jedi Guy
(3,175 posts)If you pay your credit card off in full every month and never revolve a balance, it has no impact whatsoever on your score because as far as the bureaus can tell the account isn't being used.
As for the mortgages, when a trade line is paid off and closed, it can result in a drop in your score because your utilization dropped, but also just because the trade line is closed. The longer the trade line has been active, the bigger the potential impact when it's closed. Closing a credit card that's been open for a year will have way less of an impact than a 20-year-old mortgage. Not a perfect comparison since it's secured vs. unsecured, but still.
Vinca
(50,237 posts)agencies for paying my bills. LOL.
Jedi Guy
(3,175 posts)And yeah, credit is wonky. The rules are often counterintuitive and contradictory, and they're 100% designed to favor the lender over the borrower.
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Considering switching to a card to provide similar services on Delta.
I just need to use my United miles first
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)One personal and one business. Have never had a credit card.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)Use it for unexpected expenses when I'd rather not tap into cash safety stock.
We use three debit cards but those are, of course, directly linked to checking accounts. There's no line of credit involved.
Our FICO score is not remotely an issue needing improvement.
tritsofme
(17,370 posts)The most important factor is credit utilization, keeping this under 3% will lead to optimal credit scores. Even assuming you pay off credit cards each month, the balance is still reported, meaning depending on your monthly spend habit, you may require significant amounts of available credit.
The average age of accounts is also an important factor.
I regularly use five cards, that offer rewards for different categories of spend.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)Given the MASSIVE amount of identity theft nowadays, I NEVER EVER use debit cards. I would much rather lose a credit card number in a data breach than a debit card one.
When its your money stolen, the banks dont give a shit. When its their money stolen, they certainly DO care more MUCH MORE even to the point of having fraud protection on their credit cards.
Plus if I ever have to file bankruptcy, unsecured credit card is usually right there along with medical bills for heavy write off.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)I know when the credit bureau sweeps come in on each one every month and I pay each down to 10-15% utilization each month before those dates, then again before any interest is due. Brought my credit score up 130 points in a year using this method. I hate the games I have to play- and the time consumed- but the rules provide only a narrow window to optimize your score without costing you money.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)1 for online purchases with good protections, and also great for international travel - if I do.
1 for everyday, in person chip purchases but it's got the best terms and if I ever decide to carry a balance, this is it.
1 is actually a Visa /Debit card and I only use it if I am at my own bank's ATM.
1 hardly ever use it anymore, but used to all the time. I use it a few times a year just to keep it active. I've had since November 1974, right after President Ford signed allowing women to get credit without a husband. I didn't need a credit card at the time but by golly I could and I did. I keep it because it means something to me.
Edit to add I have never carried a balance over in my life and don't recommend it. However, access to credit is the difference between getting through a temporary hardship and not. The key being temporary.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)You are right on target. Good job!!!!!!!!
Limiting a debit card to only your banks ATMs is creating a good firewall against identity theft.
Only put the banks money at risk for online shenanigans, not your own.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,915 posts)MLife Rewards Mastercard for our Las Vegas trips. Delta Skymiles card for flying Delta. Amex Platinum for all other travel/hotels. And a Chase Freedom unlimited.
marie999
(3,334 posts)and to pay for such as cell phones, property and auto insurances. Our bill runs between $4,500 and $5,000 a month and we pay it on time. We get between $1,000 and $1,200 back each year.
BluesRunTheGame
(1,607 posts)I have no idea what my credit score is and I dont care.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)One I use for everything and pay off every month. One has a low interest rate and in the extremely rare instance I think might not be able to fully pay off a purchase in a month I'll use that. Could never figure out the point of a debit card. Why wouldn't you enjoy the short free ride?
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)This enables me to fly internationally in business (and occassionally first) class around three times per year. The hotel credit cards also enable me to quite frequently stay for free.
I'm flying to Thailand a month from now. I'll be in the Qatar Airlines Q-Suite all the way from Atlanta to Doha to Phuket. Once there, I'll stay at the Hilton for 8 nights. I have Diamond status, so I'll get a free room upgrade and free breakfast every day. A quick flight to Hong Kong connects me to a British Airways flight (business class), and I'll stay in London for a few days (Hilton again) and catch a couple of shows (Sutton Foster in Anything Goes!). Take the Chunnel to Paris, stay 5 nights (Holiday Inn). Fly to JFK on Swiss Air, connecting through Zurich (business class again). Stay overnight in NYC, hop on Delta (1st class) to get home.
Total cost for all hotels: $0 and a bunch of points.
Total cost for all airfare: About $800 (tax, fuel surcharges) and a bunch of points.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,917 posts)DenaliDemocrat
(1,474 posts)I use them promotionally for the rewards. I dont carry a balance. Amazon orders on Amazon card. I travel a lot so United and Delta cards. Marriot for hotels. Costco for everything else because the cash back is awesome. You CAN do this, but you must be very disciplined or you can get yourself in trouble quickly.
Thats kind of what they are counting on. If you play this game be disciplined
MerryBlooms
(11,757 posts)Same car insurance for 20 years, home owning same insurance for almost 30 years, just now have a new email address since 1997... My credit score is excellent and I am dull as dirt.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,757 posts)Last of my class of stenography/transcription and high school business classes. Probably the last who knew how to fill out a ledger, balance a check book, write a check, etc... I taught my sons the basics, because they weren't taught in school. Everything is online now, and I rarely use cash, but I still use my shorthand in notes to myself, and can still type 120 without errors if I'm relaxed.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)... never had one. But I get offers in my mail, all the time...
DFW
(54,291 posts)One is on our Euro expense account, and is only used for work-related travel in Europe billed in Euros, Swiss Francs, or a Scandinavian currency.
Then there is a work-related Amex card. I cant even remember when the last time I used that was. Then there is my US credit card I only use when Im here and run low on cash. I hate getting bills, so I have an automatic deduct from some account I maintain in the States. But since Im rarely here, thats just for short periods. I try to pay cash for everything I can. Groceries, entertainment, gas, eating out, whatever. A record is kept (probably more like twenty records) of every credit card transaction. I dont need to map out my every move and preference for some database that will soon be used to harass me, or to sell me something. If I buy ANYTHING with a credit card, I am bombarded with offers to sell me something similar. If I pay cash, at most, I get asked for my zip code. I give them 40878, which in the USA must be in the Midwest somewhere. In Germany, its in the Rheinland near Düsseldorf, but they always assume theres nowhere else on earth than America. Too bad. They ask for my Zip Code, they get it.
Otherwise, I hate using plastic. I cant remember every transaction when Im on vacation, and I cant be bothered to spend an hour every month on the phone with the fraud division going over every time I got my wife a cappuccino at some café in Provincetown, MA. As for political contributions, I never use a credit card, and Act Blue can go shove it. I send checks, period. I do not need to get hit on by every Democratic candidate for dog catcher in North Platte, Nebraska.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)One from our credit union we charge maybe $100 dollars a month.
And one that pays every bill we have which we pay off. It costs us $450 a year, but we get $300 a year free travel and meals covered. Pays for our Global traveler pass and the concierge service is worth its weigh in gold. Has got me reservations in France, Italy and Germany. Call them up. Ask for a reservation on a day and time and within hours they come through. I guess that would work domestically but never tried.
Plus travel insurance and all that jazz. Discounts on car rentals and hotels. And more.
Best part is we earn enough rewards to have free flights to Europe every year. Because of Covid we can afford to go business class next time if we choose.
JenniferJuniper
(4,507 posts)scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)my wife uses one and I use the other and Lowe's is for home improvement
always pay them off every month never pay interest
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)They are contrary to my personal spiritual beliefs.
I've seen too many young people borrow their way into lives of permanent indentured servitude by accumulating massive debt to credit card corporations. They should be illegal. Yes, some people can use them wisely, but the pain and destruction they cause to innocent people's lives is not worth the small convenience they bring the more prudent among us.
Credit agencies, such as Experian, and their "credit scores" should also be illegal. As private corporate entities, they have no right to invade our privacy by having the power to freely access our personal information, and subsequently be used by our government and various private commercial entities as a source used to identify us. Our Social Security Numbers are enough for that purpose, thank you very much.
"You load 16 Tons, and what do you get? Another day older and deeper and debt. St. Peter don't you call me because I can't go, I owe my soul to the company store." - Merle Travis
Cut the card. Live free and prosper.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)I am trying to build up my credit. Unfortunately they are allowed to use credit scores for way to many things. Employment, housing, car insurance....it's insane. I am 51 and have never made an insurance claim. I still pay more for car insurance because I dont have a good credit score yet.
Norbert
(6,038 posts)One card carries a low balance and I usually pay off every now and then.
The other is a store credit card that rarely carries a balance, mainly because I just don't need much any more.
I am in the high end of a good credit score and hope to make it even better.
One of the reasons (among many) I'm glad tRump didn't get a second term is I thought he would relax credit like it was 13-30 years ago where you could get several credit card apps in the mail every week. It was a near disaster for our family as debt was run up and in trying to pay them off my credit rating took a hit. I never want to go through that again.
Raftergirl
(1,283 posts)We dont carry balances on any of them.
Havent checked credit score since last summer when leased a new car. Both are in the 800s.
I put everything on one of my cards that I get miles. Even for very expensive items like a whole house generator. Then I immediately pay the bill in full. Since the start of the pandemic Ive had just over $100k in charges. Now, if only I felt safe to fly anywhere.
CTyankee
(63,889 posts)and I earn "bean bucks." I can get stuff hubby needs and really useful items. We're so old now that the days of Bloomingale's and Macy's are far in our past.
I never carry a balance. LLBean just automatically gets paid. Fine with me. No problems so far.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)Which I use sparingly. Somehow, Ive managed to hold onto a Fico of 835.
On edit, Ive got nine. Mustnt forget Amazon.