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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 11:32 AM Jul 2021

Trump has cut off Rudy Giuliani, and is annoyed that he asked to be paid for his work...

Trump has cut off Rudy Giuliani, and is annoyed that he asked to be paid for his work on challenging the election, book says

wbostock@businessinsider.com (Bill Bostock) 2 hrs ago

Giuliani spearheaded Trump's legal attempt to overturn the 2020 election result until February.

Giuliani has reportedly been asking Trump to pay his legal fees for weeks, but has been ignored.

Trump and his family have also cast off Giuliani, according to a new book from Michael Wolff.


Donald Trump's family has cut off Rudy Giuliani, and the former president has been irked that the lawyer asked to be paid for his work challenging the 2020 election, according to a new book.

On Sunday, The Times of London published an excerpt from "Landslide: The Final Days of the Trump Presidency," the upcoming book on the Trump presidency from the author Michael Wolff.

In the extract, Wolff describes Trump's post-presidency life at his Mar-a-Lago resort, and how Trump is frustrated by the lack of progress in his quest to overturn the 2020 election result.

Giuliani, a longtime ally and personal lawyer of the president, started leading the Trump campaign's efforts to overturn the election on November 4, but departed sometime in February after a series of setbacks.

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Trump has cut off Rudy Giuliani, and is annoyed that he asked to be paid for his work... (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2021 OP
Color me surprised... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #1
Did Rudy really think TFG was ever going to pay him? Ocelot II Jul 2021 #2
On the one hand, Trump is scum for always screwing people he owes... Silent3 Jul 2021 #3
A Thought wyn borkins Jul 2021 #4
The lack of a written retainer agreement doesn't mean a lawyer isn't entitled to payment Ocelot II Jul 2021 #13
Exactly n/t msfiddlestix Jul 2021 #15
Appreciations... wyn borkins Jul 2021 #19
I don't think Rudy is worth $20K a day, but if TFG let him think he'd pay him that amount, Ocelot II Jul 2021 #20
He Should Get: What's Coming To Him OR For Him wyn borkins Jul 2021 #22
Jesus Christ, Rudy, it's like you don't know the former guy AT ALL. RockRaven Jul 2021 #5
The Slobfather is one entitled asshole malaise Jul 2021 #6
I you even suspect a client will welch, get at least 50% down before you start the job . . . Journeyman Jul 2021 #7
Karma Comes To Call Me. Jul 2021 #8
Quoting Michael Cohen PlanetBev Jul 2021 #9
So! No $20,000 per day, eh? keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #14
Ghouliani showed himself to be a bigger fool than we ever thought with his ridiculous... brush Jul 2021 #10
Thanks for the lovely laughter! tavernier Jul 2021 #11
All the way up the heap the advisors and enablers think that tanyev Jul 2021 #12
Wondering if Rudy's smart enough to feel like the fool he is Blue Owl Jul 2021 #16
Quite the sense of entitlement Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #17
How can all his toadies see all the bodies under the bus alphafemale Jul 2021 #18
Maybe he shouldn't piss off a guy who knows where some of the bodies are buried krawhitham Jul 2021 #21
How does he get away with not paying for work done? LiberatedUSA Jul 2021 #23
You could win every time IF KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #26
I hope other lawyers who are considering working for Trump take note of this. Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #24
Rudy, you got what you deserved RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2021 #25

Ocelot II

(115,584 posts)
2. Did Rudy really think TFG was ever going to pay him?
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jul 2021

TFG never pays people, especially lawyers - one reason (besides the professional suicide part) that he can't get any good ones to work for him. And even the bad ones expect to get paid.

Silent3

(15,147 posts)
3. On the one hand, Trump is scum for always screwing people he owes...
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 11:40 AM
Jul 2021

…on the other hand, I doubt Giuliani has done work worth being paid for in years.

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
4. A Thought
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 11:51 AM
Jul 2021

I seriously doubt there is (OR ever was) a written legal retainer agreement between IQ45 and Rudolph William Louis Giuliani; because an attorney simply standing next to a possible client does not an 'agreement' make.

Ocelot II

(115,584 posts)
13. The lack of a written retainer agreement doesn't mean a lawyer isn't entitled to payment
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 12:27 PM
Jul 2021

for work done or services rendered; it's just more difficult to assign a value, and there is a whole body of law involving quasi-contract arrangements. In the case of Rudy in particular, though, one might reasonably argue that his incompetent and often downright bizarre services were worthless, but if TFG didn't want Rudy to work for him - and he clearly did, at least wrt the Ukraine matter - he should have formally fired him, refused to let him represent him or even appear to be representing him. By accepting his representation, such as it was, TFG entered into an implied contract for representation even if there wasn't a written retainer agreement.

msfiddlestix

(7,270 posts)
15. Exactly n/t
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jul 2021

trying to remember when Rudy held that glorious presser at the "Four Seasons" .. was that before Jan 6th? or after?


Ocelot II

(115,584 posts)
20. I don't think Rudy is worth $20K a day, but if TFG let him think he'd pay him that amount,
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 01:27 PM
Jul 2021

Rudy at least has an argument for getting paid something just for showing up, even if he was farting and leaking hair dye.

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
22. He Should Get: What's Coming To Him OR For Him
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 01:39 PM
Jul 2021

And I agree (with you); he did indeed 'show-up' (even occasionally with his hand down his pants), something 'nearly all' attorneys would NEVER-EVER do in public.

RockRaven

(14,893 posts)
5. Jesus Christ, Rudy, it's like you don't know the former guy AT ALL.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 11:52 AM
Jul 2021

He's not going to fucking pay you. Duh!

Journeyman

(15,024 posts)
7. I you even suspect a client will welch, get at least 50% down before you start the job . . .
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jul 2021

you'll still get screwed but it won't be quite as disheartening.

brush

(53,740 posts)
10. Ghouliani showed himself to be a bigger fool than we ever thought with his ridiculous...
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jul 2021

and futile post-election efforts beginning at Four Seasons Landscaping and ending up with court failure after court failure and a notable passing of gas and hair dye drips along the way. And he expects to be paid?

trump is, as we all know, way more than a fool, but allowing Ghouliani to parade around calling himself the President's attorney while failing at every turn...well, there's nothing to say.

tanyev

(42,515 posts)
12. All the way up the heap the advisors and enablers think that
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 12:15 PM
Jul 2021

the people below them are chumps for believing that Trump will take care of them, but also somehow believe that they themselves will be taken care of.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
18. How can all his toadies see all the bodies under the bus
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jul 2021

And not understand the same fate awaits them?

Every - Single - One

krawhitham

(4,638 posts)
21. Maybe he shouldn't piss off a guy who knows where some of the bodies are buried
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jul 2021

Trump was never smart, but DAMN this is dumb

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
23. How does he get away with not paying for work done?
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jul 2021

If I hire someone to fix my shed doors, then tell them to piss off after the work is done, I’m gonna be sued and lose.

How does he get away with it?

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
26. You could win every time IF
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jul 2021

You are willing to bury the contractor under enough lawsuits the minute the work is done to get them to give up getting paid in exchange for dropping all the lawsuits.

A cousin of my dad fancied himself a real estate tycoon of sorts. Moved to Atlanta in the 30's and lived pretty high compared to life in eastern Kentucky. He loved to pitch a fit near the end of a meal out in order to avoid paying for it.

Midnight Writer

(21,708 posts)
24. I hope other lawyers who are considering working for Trump take note of this.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jul 2021

The man is like a shark, constantly swimming without sleep, with one singular goal: to screw over anyone he can.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,664 posts)
25. Rudy, you got what you deserved
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jul 2021

and it would be even better if you lose your law license and maybe end up in the pokey all in the name of TFG

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