A grim Independence Day weekend in Chicago was marred by violence, with nearly 90 people shot

[former9thward]

Nearly 90 people have been shot in Chicago since the beginning of the long Independence Day weekend, including two police officers; a 6-year-old girl and her mother; and a group of six people early Monday in the Washington Park neighborhood.

In all, at least 89 people have been struck by gunfire since Friday afternoon, 15 of whom died of their injuries, according to police.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-independence-day-weekend-shootings-violence-20210705-krc6q7g7o5grzit3qpoavxlr3e-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News&utm_content=861625518129#nws=true

A city out of control.

[Treefrog]

1. A city out of control, indeed.

Frightening.

[LanternWaste]

2. Nation, rather than city out of control.

Look at the the entire board. Play the entire board.

(but I can easily understand with the obvious desire to focus on Chicago only... the totality would upset the specific)

[Hugh_Lebowski]

3. It is the Chicago Tribune ...

[Klaralven]

5. It's mostly the cities. The suburbs, small town and rural areas are pretty peaceful.

[roamer65]

7. It's mainly the guns that come in from those areas.

Chicago’s biggest problem is Indiana, followed by other red states with horrible gun laws.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/chicago-gun-trace-report-2017/27140/

[Klaralven]

9. Chicago has strict gun laws. Are they enforced? Does possession of a illegal gun result in hard time

There are teraHertz wave radars that can detect guns under clothing. Are they being used?

[roamer65]

13. I know Illinois has been using surveillance to target the shops in Indiana.

They photograph cars and their plates, especially IL plates. There have been arrests in IL.

They are also using the information to try to get these dealers FFLs pulled.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/27/chicago-sues-gun-store-tied-850-guns-recovered-crime-scenes/4854619001/

They should expand that to other states, IMO.

The best defense is a good offense.

[Klaralven]

14. If a gang banger on the streets is caught with a gun, how many years in Joliet?

[roamer65]

15. Ask the state of Illinois and city of Chicago.

That’s their department.

[Klaralven]

16. You seemed keenly interested in Indiana. Why not Illinois?

[roamer65]

17. Because it is an annoyingly hyper religious, red state with overly laxed gun laws.

It’s the home of Pence the Dense and that moron Mike Braun.

It also has deep lack of respect for LGBTQ rights.

Why do you hate Chicago and Illinois so much that you will question their moves to make Indiana gun dealers abide by the law?

[tonedevil]

20. Isn't the information...

you are so keen to have readily available on the same Internet that this forum is on? It seems you just want to bully others and not make your own inquiries.

[sl8]

21. From your link, twice as many recovered guns were from Illinois as were from Indiana.

Not to say there isn't a problem in Indiana, but I don't see how it's the biggest problem.

[roamer65]

22. How about all the other red states combined?

Failure of federal laws. IMO.

No handguns or assault weapons allowed should be allowed to leave states except through the FFL channel.

As far as IL itself, they can bite down when they want and they should do so.

[secondwind]

4. It's the guns, we worship guns in this country. Truly sad...

[YMB]

11. If it was the guns,

That is to say guns being the primary factor then the US would be an apocalyptic wasteland right now.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. Maybe the police need more training. Let's give them some more money and see what happens!

[Midnight Writer]

8. Most of these are drive-by shootings.

It's not like people getting shot during an altercation or during another crime like a robbery.

This looks like senseless random violence.

Why in the world would someone drive by a park or a house and open fire at multiple people, including children?

What defense is there against this type of madness?

[Marrah_Goodman]

10. Is this a gang issue?

If so, maybe some kind of truce could be negotiated? Just grasping at straws here. I feel terrible for the citizens having to live among this death and destruction.

[joetheman]

12. This 4th was Guns across America!

Stunning to know that there are more guns in America than people, more MAGAs than tax-payers.

[BradAllison]

18. Is your long game getting tired?

C'mon man, you're a middle of the thread hit and run guy.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

19. Chicago seems nice compared to Dayton OH, my city.

Murder map: Deadliest U.S. cities
BY ELISHA FIELDSTADT
APRIL 19, 2021
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/

Here are murder rates in 65 major U.S. cities (cities with greater than 100,000 residents) for 2019. These rates are calculated using the latest statistics available — the FBI's 2019 Crime in the United States data, as well as data culled directly from city police officials and the U.S. Census Bureau.


1. St. Louis, Missouri
2. Baltimore, Maryland
3. Birmingham, Alabama
4. Detroit, Michigan
5. Dayton, Ohio
6. Baton Rouge, Louisiana
7. New Orleans, Louisiana
8. Kansas City, Missouri
9. Memphis, Tennessee
10. Cleveland, Ohio
...
28. Chicago, Illinois