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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,781 posts)
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:25 AM Jul 2021

David Jolly..."There is nothing left of this Republican Party,"

Well spoken and on point. Jolly added that the GOP that celebrates Trump would continue to be “anti-republican, anti-democratic” until “someone wrests control of the party from the former president.”

Source:Huff Post

Former Rep. David Jolly (R-Fla.) on Tuesday rejected the idea that there’s currently “a fight for the soul of the party” between moderate Republicans and sycophants of ex-President Donald Trump.

“There is nothing left of this Republican Party other than a party that’s able to embrace and to elevate an undemocratic, anti-republic theme that somehow we can engage in a fraud on the American people as long as it supports our guy winning an election,” Jolly told MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace during a discussion about GOP support of Trump’s election lies.

[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-jolly-republican-myth-donald-trump_n_60e5692ce4b0c9b37145268e|

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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. Call it what it is: The Reptilian Party.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:28 AM
Jul 2021

It's operating entirely on reptilian, predatory instinct. No neo-cortex at all.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
2. I'm convinced the R Party is only out for ego, $$$ and power
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:48 AM
Jul 2021

The is not one shred of evidence that they are out to advance ANYTHING! Just rollbacks all…the…damn…time.

Oh, and that cult of personality too.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
5. You don't wrest control of the party from Trump
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 07:15 PM
Jul 2021

You wrest it from the 70 million people who voted for him.

Trump is a symptom. (A large part of) our electorate is the disease.

speak easy

(9,223 posts)
6. "Trump is a symptom"
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jul 2021

Could not disagree more. There would not have been a Jan 6 Insurrection without Trump, any more than there would have been a October Revolution without Lenin, or a Third Reich without Hitler.

The GOP is a totalitarian organization. The Leader, not the voters, controls the Party. It is the Führer Principle - the Party - the State - the People are instruments of The Leader's will. That is TFG's contribution to history - that one party represents an existential threat to the Republic.

sciencescience

(109 posts)
8. I think the people were already primed and Trump was the match
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 09:32 PM
Jul 2021

If Reagan or one of the Bushes had spewed as much nonsense as Trump and projected what they perceive as strength then the Republican base would have followed them as well.

speak easy

(9,223 posts)
9. Like Lenin, Hitler and Mao, TFG had to be a megalomaniac psycho.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 11:27 PM
Jul 2021

If Reagan, or the Bushes were different people, maybe they could have pulled off an insurrection. I doubt it.

The rallies, the cult of personality, the biggest lie - (however absurd) the leader is (always) right, and reality can be bent to his will (hurricane and the sharpie), TFG is the classic totalitarian. He purged his party, silenced dissent and went about assembling the black shirts.

He changed things. He is not a symptom.

Cosmocat

(14,560 posts)
12. 100% correct
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 07:45 AM
Jul 2021

Focusing strictly on 45 gives the entire republican/conservative machine an out.

As you noted, 1/3 of our country has willingly allowed themselves to be programmed to believe in the evil liberal boogyman and that they are the bestest of patriots and christians, and as such ANYTHING is justfied in the holy war again us.

45 didn't make this, he just took the whip from the "traditional" politicians to feed their brainwashed masses a much more pure form of red meat.

There are M A N Y others more than willing to follow his lead now, and the party is nearly devoid of any "traditional" politicians who try to pull it back.

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
7. yada, yada, yada...your party lost whatever soul it had years ago. You just finding that out?
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 09:23 PM
Jul 2021

I'm sorry, but this just makes me mad.

GoodRaisin

(8,920 posts)
10. Unfortunately too many "old type of Republicans" are still voting for the
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 01:43 AM
Jul 2021

MAGA version during elections. So it really doesn't mean a lot except the party has just gotten even more evil than it was before.

WarGamer

(12,424 posts)
11. Correct. Anyone who thinks that Liz Cheney and David Jolly are going to lead the GOP...
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 01:56 AM
Jul 2021

are smoking the really good stuff... the stuff from the expensive Santa Monica pot shops with the marble floors and chandeliers.

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