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Nevilledog

(51,063 posts)
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 02:23 PM Jul 2021

Remington lawyers turn over thousands of irrelevant documents to Sandy Hook families.



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Lawyers for Sandy Hook families say Remington, the manufacturer of the AR-15-style rifle used in the 2012 school shooting, included in its documents tens of thousands of irrelevant images — some of which were random cartoons.

A gun-maker was ordered to hand over documents to Sandy Hook families. The materials included...
In data turned over by bankrupted Remington to nine Sandy Hook families suing for...
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10:02 AM · Jul 7, 2021


https://www.ctpost.com/local/article/A-gun-maker-was-ordered-to-hand-over-documents-to-16296757.php

NEWTOWN — In the volume of pretrial data turned over by bankrupted Remington to nine Sandy Hook families suing for wrongful marketing, lawyers said they found 18,000 random cartoons and 15,000 irrelevant pictures of people go-karting and dirt-biking.

“Having repeatedly represented to the (families) and this court that it was devoting extensive resources to making what it described as “substantial” document productions … Remington has instead made the plaintiffs wait years to receive cartoon images, gender reveal videos, and duplicate copies of catalogues,” reads a complaint filed by the families’ lawyers in state Superior Court last week. “There is no possible reasonable explanation for this conduct.”

The complaint, the latest in the 7-year-battle by the Sandy Hook families to hold accountable the maker of the AR-15-style rifle used in the 2012 shootings, does not allege that all 46,000 documents turned over by Remington are irrelevant.

“When the seemingly random cartoons, images, videos, duplicates, and other items noted are accounted for, Remington, it would seem, has spent the better part of seven years producing 6,606 potentially useful documents in response to the plaintiffs’ requests,” the court complaint reads.

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Remington lawyers turn over thousands of irrelevant documents to Sandy Hook families. (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2021 OP
Perhaps the courts will find Remington guilty of contempt? Wow, making a mockery of ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2021 #1
So they're in the 'bury them in bullshit' phase of the trial? marble falls Jul 2021 #2
Contemptible. C_U_L8R Jul 2021 #3
It is not the job of defense lawyers to do the job of the plaintiff's lawyers. former9thward Jul 2021 #4
Uh, No. The discovery was for all internal and external AndyS Jul 2021 #7
Uh, yes. former9thward Jul 2021 #8
Uh, do your own research. AndyS Jul 2021 #10
The answer to all this is the First Amendment . . . Journeyman Jul 2021 #5
It sounds about typical sarisataka Jul 2021 #6
Isn't that pretty much how it's supposed to work? Captain Stern Jul 2021 #9

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
1. Perhaps the courts will find Remington guilty of contempt? Wow, making a mockery of ...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 02:26 PM
Jul 2021

court proceedings is not a good way to proceed/handle one's conduct in court.

former9thward

(31,964 posts)
4. It is not the job of defense lawyers to do the job of the plaintiff's lawyers.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 03:07 PM
Jul 2021

Often plaintiff lawyers will use a shotgun approach to deposition requests and ask for "all documents,,,," You get what you ask for. It is not the job of the defense to go through thousands of documents and determine what is relevant or not. In fact if they did that the plaintiffs would complain the defense are "hiding documents". So they get everything.

What happens then? The plaintiff lawyers are able to rack up huge legal bills to go over all the documents. They also charge their clients to for filing a complaint saying they got irrelevant documents. A real money maker.

That is the reality in courts. Not what you see on tv.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
7. Uh, No. The discovery was for all internal and external
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jul 2021

documents, including emails that relate to MARKETING. The marketing of the gun sold is the crux of the Sandy Hook lawsuit and hinges on a clause in CT's Constitution.

Cluttering up discovery with things that are NOT related to marketing is contempt of court and I hope the defense pays a price for this farce.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
10. Uh, do your own research.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 07:22 PM
Jul 2021

I've followed this case closely since it was filed, dismissed, appealed and reinstated by the CTSC. I've watched it through Rem's bankruptcy, sale and the court ruling that Rem must retain insurance to pay the plaintiff's award should they win.

The entire case revolves around the marketing of this firearm. The request for discovery was for all documents, including internal and external communications regarding the MARKETING of the rifle.

If you can find something to contradict me, go for it.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
5. The answer to all this is the First Amendment . . .
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 03:12 PM
Jul 2021

Were the Sandy Hook families to release the unexpurgated pictures of the shooting's aftermath, who could then argue in favor of these weapons before the reality of tiny children cut in half (and worse) by those very devices.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
9. Isn't that pretty much how it's supposed to work?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 07:03 PM
Jul 2021

The entity from whom the evidence is being requested doesn't get to choose what to hand out, or not hand out. That would just be silly.

Dear Big Company That I am Suing:

I am hereby demanding all evidence that you have that may help my case.

Please don't send any evidence that won't be useful to me, because it will take me a lot of time to go through all of that.

I'll leave it to your discretion to decide which evidence would be useful to me. I trust you. I promise I won't accuse you later of holding back evidence.

Thanks in advance.

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