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skip fox

(19,356 posts)
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 03:28 PM Jul 2021

Anti-vaxers: Another little exercise in natural selection?

It's easy to write them off (esp. with a joke) but a number of these people are being manipulated by Trump, Mike Lindell, Fox News, etc.

Should gullibility cam at such a high price, or should we waste our breath and risk animosity to try to set them straight?

If so, what is the best message?

The one I think would be most effective is the data on the Delta variant: that you only need to be exposed for seconds as opposed to 10 minutes like the others.

Any better ones?

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Anti-vaxers: Another little exercise in natural selection? (Original Post) skip fox Jul 2021 OP
MAGATS are choosing to die. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #1
They need to figure it out. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #2
Nothing wrong with being an optimist. PortTack Jul 2021 #10
So do insurance companies have to pay the hospital bills greymattermom Jul 2021 #3
Yes. To do otherwise would violate the ACA law fescuerescue Jul 2021 #7
Unfortunately, that means *my* premium will go up too. Pobeka Jul 2021 #13
Yes. That's the nature of risk pools fescuerescue Jul 2021 #15
They apparently would rather die Diamond_Dog Jul 2021 #4
I think Notek Jul 2021 #8
We might see an interesting thing in 2022 -misanthroptimist Jul 2021 #5
I had never heard the 10 minute exposure before fescuerescue Jul 2021 #6
.. roamer65 Jul 2021 #9
The information is readily available Sherman A1 Jul 2021 #11
... Faux pas Jul 2021 #12
Masks. OnDoutside Jul 2021 #14

OAITW r.2.0

(24,423 posts)
2. They need to figure it out.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Wed Jul 7, 2021, 04:25 PM - Edit history (1)

This Delta version might ultimately be the teaching moment. It will be difficult to explain why vaccinated people aren't dying like the un-vaccinated. Most likely they or their loved ones will contract a more virulent version of Covid. Some will lilkely die. Maybe then they will start to question all of the lies they have been told. Seems to me that people who "come into the light" will become "the tip of the spear" to lead this country back from the partisan divide.

Or maybe I'm being an optimist....

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
13. Unfortunately, that means *my* premium will go up too.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 05:53 PM
Jul 2021

Even though I did all the right things. This is beyond random event driven illness, this is self-caused illness. I hope insurance companies can make a new grouping for people who get vaccinated, and those who don't.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
15. Yes. That's the nature of risk pools
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 11:58 AM
Jul 2021

ACA will not allow that. ACA is very specific on how insurance companies can create their risk pools.

There is no provisions in ACA to allow for separate risk pools for vaccination status.

https://www.healthinsurance.org/obamacare/risk-pools/

-misanthroptimist

(808 posts)
5. We might see an interesting thing in 2022
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jul 2021

What might (and I'm saying "might", not "will&quot happen is that the Delta variant may kill and disable enough Republicans that all their attempted game fixing wrt voting turns out to be for naught. They might very well come to rue the restrictions they are placing on mail-in voting and "ballot harvesting."

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
11. The information is readily available
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 04:26 PM
Jul 2021

Has been so and will continue to be just as are the vaccines. That some choose to ignore the information and vaccines is their doing and if the then contract the disease that is just too bad.

Faux pas

(14,657 posts)
12. ...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 04:39 PM
Jul 2021

Dying trying to prove science and medicine wrong? They're only proving themselves unfit for survival IMHO

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
14. Masks.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 06:11 PM
Jul 2021

Hit them with the reality that the dropping of the mask mandate will mean that they won't know who has Covid and who doesn't. The burden of wearing masks has actually turned onto them. They now need to protect themselves from their fellow assholes.

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