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ShazzieB

(16,272 posts)
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 05:38 PM Jul 2021

Biden pays a visit. MAGAts show up and say dumb stuff. (What else is new, right?)

Hundreds protest outside McHenry County College during President Joe Biden’s visit

Hundreds of protesters opposed to President Joe Biden’s agenda rallied along Route 14 outside McHenry County College Wednesday ahead of the Biden’s visit. Many donned campaign memorabilia in support of President Donald Trump’s unsuccessful 2020 reelection bid and anticipating a possible 2024 run.

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Among those gathered were Fred Bock of Crystal Lake and his sister-in-law Candice Bock. They’re both Trump supporters and raised issues with Biden’s $1.8 trillion American Families Plan proposal, which Biden was at McHenry County College to promote. The proposal includes a policy that would give Americans two free years of community college education.

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“Free education, that’s what Biden is here promoting, but free education, if you really can’t afford an education, it was already paid for anyway,” Candice Bock said.

“More like free indoctrination,” Fred Bock said.

*snip*

“I do not approve of free college education for anybody. No free anything,” Rhodes said.

More at the source, including comments from a couple of Biden supporters:
https://www.shawlocal.com/northwest-herald/news/local/2021/07/07/hundreds-protest-outside-mchenry-county-college-during-president-joe-bidens-visit/
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Okay, I get it: they don't want no free nothing for nobody. But what the hell is this supposed to mean: "...free education, if you really can’t afford an education, it was already paid for anyway,"

Whatever she was trying to say, it got garbled somehow. Maybe she could use more education, to learn how to communicate clearly, hmmm?

In any case, people railing against making higher education free or even more affordable grinds my gears. I got an almost free college education back in the early 70s, thanks to the fact that both my state government and the federal government provided tons of financial aid to those who could demonstrate financial need. I believe this was in part due to LBJ's "Great Society" legislation that provided tons of funding for all kinds of antipoverty programs, including financial aid for needy college students, but my state also had good financial aid. Basically, because my parents were broke, the state of Illinois paid my tuition, the feds paid my room and board, and I paid for everything else by working part time at a work study job that was also subsidized by the government. (I also borrowed a little bit, but that was only because my dad made a little too much money one year and some of my funding was temporarily yanked.)

By the time my daughter was college age, all of that kind of financial aid had bean replaced by loans, loans, and more loans. My daughter wouldn't have qualified for everything I got, because her dad and I were less broke than my parents were, but the difference between what she was theoretically qualified to receive and what was actually available to her was huge. So she did what a lot of kids do these days: she borrowed, and borrowed, and graduated with a whopping load of debt.

So anyway...when RWers get their panties in a twist about the idea of making college free or at least easier to pay for, like it's a brand new idea, I just roll my eyes. Because it's NOT an entirely new idea. It's really not!
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Midnight Writer

(21,712 posts)
3. So, were any Biden supporters there? Did they have anything worthwhile to say?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 05:53 PM
Jul 2021

Did anyone ask them?

You can't tell it from this "report". What ever happened to both-siderism?

ShazzieB

(16,272 posts)
5. There were some, at the end of the article.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 06:37 PM
Jul 2021

I was trying to limit how much of the article I posted, but I'll paste it below. It's at the very end, after more MAGAt insanity.

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Heather Sances and her 17-year-old daughter, Aisha Sances, a Crystal Lake Central High School student, both strode up and down the line of protesters displaying a sign welcoming Biden to the area.

“We just happened to come past, and I was like, man, let’s go out and show them they don’t run this county,” Heather Sances said, adding she wanted people to know that many in the county voted for Biden.

She said she think the protesters should accept the election results and be eager for the president to visit their community. She said she was also supportive of the American Families Plan’s measures that could provide more free education and potentially help lower daycare costs for local residents.

Her daughter said the quality careers that she has seen undertaken by McHenry County College students and alums is part of the reason she thinks Biden visited the school.

“MCC is a really good school, and the kids who come here, they really make something out of their lives. It’s really inspiring,” Aisha Sances said.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
4. I don't understand these
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 06:23 PM
Jul 2021

"no free anything" fuckers. What they actually mean is no free anything for people of color. I guarantee the people who say this shit take ALL the free shit that comes their way.

We are the wealthiest nation on earth. We all deserve a fuck ton of free shit. But hey, if fuck faces like the idiots in the article don't want the free shit, DON'T TAKE IT!!!!

Initech

(100,038 posts)
8. And you know these are the same people who complain about student loans being too high.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 06:50 PM
Jul 2021

So what do you want? Lower (or no) student loan payments or to be broke and miserable the rest of your life giving money to shady companies with no hope of ever paying down those student loans because your loans have 8,000% interest? I know which one I'd choose!

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onecaliberal

(32,777 posts)
7. Epic stupidity rails against education....
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 06:50 PM
Jul 2021

We need to stop allowing these people to decide the direction of our country.

Snarkoleptic

(5,996 posts)
9. Funny how Candice Bock thought socialism was great
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 07:21 PM
Jul 2021

when she used a public defender to represent her on charges of-
CLASS 3 FELONY - AGG BTRY/OFF/FIREMAN/EMP DHS
and
CLASS A MISDEMEANOR - RESIST/PEACE OFFICER/CORR EMP

FloridaBlues

(4,004 posts)
10. Hope they mailed back the stimulus money back all of it!
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jul 2021

Plus any child care tax credit they receive.
These maga people are beyond help run into them daily at work.

3catwoman3

(23,946 posts)
11. One dumbass woman was blaming President Biden for the increased gas...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 08:19 PM
Jul 2021

...prices.

IIRC, gas prices are always higher in the summer.

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