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Not only is she representing herself, shes using far-out sovereign citizen talking points to claim she is immune from prosecution.
Kelly Weill
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Published Jul. 11, 2021 5:15AM ET
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A Pennsylvania woman who allegedly stormed the Capitol and told a police officer to bring Nancy Pelosi out here now
we want to hang that fucking bitch has filed court documents claiming to be a divinely empowered entity immune from laws.
Pauline Bauer, a Pennsylvania pizzeria owner, is accused of multiple counts of violent entry, disruptive conduct, and obstruction of Congress after she allegedly broke into the Capitol on Jan. 6. Prosecutors allege that Bauer tried organizing buses to transport people to D.C. for a rally that preceded the riot, and that while in the Capitol rotunda she told police that she wanted to kill House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
But in what experts describe as an inadvisable legal strategy, Bauer has demanded to represent herself in court, appeared to threaten a court clerk with prison time, and declared herself a self-governed individual with special legal privileges.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/pizzeria-owner-pauline-bauer-mounts-truly-bizarre-defense-for-jan-6-riots
Okay I have a suggestion, she pay for her time in jail, now and into the future....since she thinks she is a "sovereign citizens" what ever the fuck that means....
C_U_L8R
(44,996 posts)Its a very small nation.
Wicked Blue
(5,826 posts)Sadly, they aren't receiving the professional treatment they desperately need.
unblock
(52,175 posts)multigraincracker
(32,658 posts)puts and end to all of this nonsense.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)Probably not.
thucythucy
(8,043 posts)Since she claims to be a law unto herself.
IronLionZion
(45,408 posts)food safety laws kill jobs
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)There could be pedophiles down there...
PufPuf23
(8,760 posts)As in "I went to Washington DC and the Capitol on January 6, 2021" as a tourist, and all I have for a memory is a souvenir criminal record.
Perhaps Bauer should not have insurrected.
RockRaven
(14,951 posts)they themselves are indeed pointless and impotent institutions, she's gonna be very disappointed...
Initech
(100,055 posts)Chainfire
(17,519 posts)law of the land. I say take her passport and other government issued ID and toss her over the Trump wall with a hearty, "And don't come back!"
The scary thing is that some people really believe that kind of silly shit.
underpants
(182,730 posts)Sovereign citizens will often refer to themselves as flesh and blood people. They do this because they have this longstanding belief that the government has created artificial versions of them for various nefarious purposes, Pitcavage told The Daily Beast, noting that the document appeared to be Bauers attempt to reclaim all supposed versions of herself.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)proceed to violate the law in some fashion, anything from traffic, building codes, zoning, criminal laws, etc.
Once caught they assert their lordliness and then sue their "oppressors" under their loony take on common law...read intimidation and extortion.
Oh and the damages they demand are usually gold, since federal reserve notes aren't real money.
Maeve
(42,279 posts)Edited to add--you aren't subject to the laws? Ok--where do you want to be deported to? And what makes you think they'll take you?
Dan
(3,542 posts)Failure to do that is give her an additional 24 hours to find some country that would accept her.
Failure to find a country that would accept her - put her in that Cuba detention site.
griloco
(832 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)These people haven't a clue what democracy is about, or the common good and Commonweath. They are totally about their perceived self-interest, and they can't even see when their own actions harm themselves!
appleannie1
(5,066 posts)SarcasticSatyr
(1,178 posts)Because she is nuts ...
nuxvomica
(12,419 posts)It can be conditioned on their declaration of sovereign citizenship in legal briefs, as these people are doing in court. The law could simply recognize such a declaration as formal renunciation of citizenship, which it already does recognize under other conditions. It may not stop them from being crazy but at least some of them might not try to argue that in court, at least they would shut up about it! BTW, another way to lose your citizenship is to be part of an attempted overthrow of the government. Ideally all the insurrectionists should be adjudged as having done that.
obamanut2012
(26,063 posts)dlk
(11,540 posts)It doesnt change the fact shes a domestic terrorist and will be held accountable.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Good thing Gitmo wasnt closed down.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,162 posts)or personality disorder that will encompass supremacists of all types, sovereign citizens, conspiracy theory advocates, incels, gun nuts, religious zealots, etc. While they have many symptoms in common with other mental illnesses and personality disorders, this new combination and the fact that they can all find others like them on the web is truly frightening. The only problem is that I doubt it's treatable.
As for this woman, audit all her tax returns going as far back as they can until they find some that are legit and throw her in federal prison for tax evasion.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)struggle4progress
(118,270 posts)Stay right here with me now til the damage is done ...
Time drags by when you're boring
Don't care what you do!
Care what you say!
Come a time
when you got to let the monster inside you
Let him come on out ... and play ...
Bird Lady
(1,819 posts)I hope jury and the judiciary does not buy it.
A_Woman_from_MI
(165 posts)]
Apparently personhood is also a protected status...
keithbvadu2
(36,724 posts)Surely she would accept self-issued money from other sovereign citizens as payment for pizza.
padah513
(2,500 posts)Wait until the trials start and the jailings start piling up. Every day pugs want to talk about critical race theory or some other nonsense, but what are they going to talk about when every day there is a trial and every day somebody gets sentenced and the news shows the evidence of their conviction every hour on the hour?
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)This whatever she is is insane. Dangerously Criminally Delusional. She needs to be locked up and maybe Prison Psychiatrists can bring her back to some semblance of reality.