It's going Rome

[OnDoutside]

Italy beat England 3-2 on penalties to win the European Championships

Yet again England choke taking penalties, depite the English goalkeeper making two outstanding penalty saves.

[Casady1]

1. The game should be won on the field.

This would be like after 2 OT’s in basketball we end the game on free throws or a one on one game.

[malaise]

2. When you make up the rules

Penalty kicks are part of this glorious game and they do take place on the field

[Casady1]

3. Is it the game

That would be equivalent to ending a football game two on two with a QB and an end. It may be on the field but it is not the game. This is only the 4th time since 1960 that a team came from behind to win. I heard that today and that is pathetic. There is a basic flaw in the game.

[malaise]

5. It was 1-1 at the end of regular and extra time

What exactly is your point?

[malaise]

6. It was 1-1 at the end of regular and extra time

What exactly is your point?

[Casady1]

9. You should play the game

On the field and not some aberration in order to end the game.

[Dream Girl]

7. Soccer is not football.

Try not to compare the beautiful game to American football.

[Casady1]

10. You can compare

It to any game. It is not better than any other game. All other games are played to the end playing the game as it is designed. It is the only game that has too design a different end in order to end it.

[malaise]

17. And yet it is the most popular game on the planet

We like it so

[Casady1]

19. And how is that relevant

To my argument.

[Dream Girl]

23. They have a different context than you. They understand the rules.

You find it frustrating that soccer is not being “played on the field” (or some such) but it’s a different game with different rules billions of people all over the get it.

[Casady1]

24. To me that is irrelevant

to my argument that the game should be won playing the game. Just because people accept it as the way to end the game doesn’t make my argument wrong. Let me ask you this, is a 0-0 game something that should happen on a regular basis?

[ornotna]

28. A shootout is part of the game

I don't understand your consternation with this.

[malaise]

34. LOL

[VWolf]

30. Hockey (in the regular season) has shootouts now - just sayin' n/t

[CrackityJones75]

33. Yep and regular season baseball

Starts with a runner on second.

But I do agree for a championship it shouldn’t have a separate set of rules to end the game. But those are the rules. So thats the way it ends.

[DenaliDemocrat]

26. Lol, no one is comparing boring ass soccer

To football!

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. So that's 16 games; 25% of the time a team comes from behind to win

That's not that unusual.

[Casady1]

20. I think that is unusual

There are comebacks all the time in every other sport. When a team gets ahead in soccer there are very few comebacks. A 0-0 game or as they say nil to nil is not all that uncommon. Do you think a 0-0 game is good?

[muriel_volestrangler]

36. A 0-0 game has been in the balance, all the time

Whether it's good all depends on the qualify of play in it.

[rurallib]

4. While I'd like to agree, such games could go on forever

Both sides have the same rules.

[Casady1]

8. That is the basic flaw

I watched this game and it was pretty boring. When you pack 5 into the scoring area on defense it becomes almost impossible to score. When you have 4 comebacks in 60 years then fundamentally something is wrong in the design. Think of comebacks in football, basketball and baseball. It is some of the most exciting games we have ever watched. Think of game 6 n the ‘75 series with Bernie Carbo hit the 3 run hr in the bottom of the 8th and Fisk hitting the hr in the 12th. The game was won on the field.

[rurallib]

11. The 3-point shot was instituted to break up the clog

in the middle and open the game up. Perhaps soccer could come up with something similar. But to me that would ruin the game. Pretty soon you'd have that abomination they tried in the US many years back that resembled a pin ball game.

Besides, Soccer is by far the most popular sport in the World. Most of their fans are not complaining about the rule AFAIK

[Casady1]

13. I think the three point goal

has not been great. As my friend’s father said who was a college coach where is the 4 point line? Now we see centers(Yannis)shooting 3 pointers and it is brutal. Imagine if we had 9 points for a 50 yard touchdown pass. That would fundamentally change the game. I’m a believer that a score is a score. I also don’t care what others think I approach it from a theoretical and philosophical approach. Phoenix is playing old school BB and they are fun to watch.

[malaise]

12. Not to the vast majority of the planet

Sorry. Penalty kicks are part of the game - they require great skill under pressure. I remember when the US was hosting the WC back in 1994 and some idiots wanted the game to move to four quarters so they could sell more ads. We simply said NO.

Same here.

[Casady1]

14. It is only part of the game

because they haven’t figured out how to end the game playing the actual game. This sport has games that end 0-0 .

[malaise]

16. Just like life

Most of the time no one wins - we just do our best and survive

[sarisataka]

27. You should consider doing what I do

With golf and NASCAR-

DON'T WATCH IT.

if you think a sport is boring that is fine. There is no rule everyone has to like everything.

I cannot think of a single baseball game I would call exciting. I'm not going to preach things I believe are flaws in the game and what should be done to make it more exciting. If you have three hours to spend to watch about fifteen minutes of action and that is fun- have at it.

[malaise]

35. That simple

[BeyondGeography]

18. I liked the golden goal

Teams played more to win in extra time IMHO.

Failing that, kicks are the only way to end it. I’ve seen dozens of these endings, and it’s funny how the best team almost always wins anyway. Today being the latest case in point.

[Casady1]

22. I agree

I have seen some good soccer games. This was not one of them. It was a snooze.

[VWolf]

32. Having played the game for years, I thought it was a great match

Soccer's funny like that - If you've never played competitively, it's tough to appreciate the tactics and subtleties of this type of match.

[BlueNProud]

21. Forza Italia!

[VWolf]

29. Sempre!

I'm as big an Azzurri supporter as they come, but it was gut-wrenching to see Saka have his PK saved. I really feel for the kid.

[Mr.Bill]

25. I think when a golf tournament ends in a tie

the tie breaker should be for them to play a game of miniature golf.

[Efilroft Sul]

31. Those Three Lions fans who claim the Italian Serie A is a farm league or a garage league?

Party on like it's 1966.