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Fox Runs All-Caps Disclaimer Over Trump's Lies About Stolen Election at CPAC (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Jul 2021 OP
TFG won't be happy about this. Time to get out the popcorn!!! Yoyoyo77 Jul 2021 #1
Fear of perpetual lawsuits Murphyb849 Jul 2021 #2
That sounds like the most logical explanation DFW Jul 2021 #21
Yep, they're not refuting what he says, just saying the voting system companies have different views TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #27
I'd guess that's it. calimary Jul 2021 #30
Lawyers are standing by twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #34
It actually walks a pretty good tightrope TlalocW Jul 2021 #3
Yep, the cult will just think, "Haha! Cheaters deny cheating! That proves it!" William Seger Jul 2021 #14
Fox can't suck enough. CentralMass Jul 2021 #4
But not the network, only the voting system companies... elias7 Jul 2021 #5
Fox News runs disclaimer across the screen while Trump lies about 2020 election in CPAC speech LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #6
Surely that disclaimer is incriminating in itself, showing that they OnDoutside Jul 2021 #8
Then GO! Deuxcents Jul 2021 #7
So why are they still calling TFG "president??" Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #9
A mystery within an enigma. Hugin Jul 2021 #11
I think you've got it! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #12
Same reason we call Jimmy Carter "President". Kaleva Jul 2021 #16
I have noticed, more and more, (at least on the news I watch) they refer to him as just "Trump." Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #18
A google search reveals no references to 'President' Jimmy Carter without a 'Former'. Hugin Jul 2021 #19
I tend to refer to President Carter, President Clinton and President Obama Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #22
None for President Obama, either. Hugin Jul 2021 #23
It shouldn't be a bonus, the candidate who gets the most votes should be the one to serve Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #24
True, I can think of at least one person who won the popular vote and yet... Hugin Jul 2021 #26
"Same reason we call Jimmy Carter "President". LiberalLovinLug Jul 2021 #32
They do call The Loser Man 'President' so it's a CYA. n/t Hugin Jul 2021 #10
It's common practice. No different then calling Obama "President". Kaleva Jul 2021 #17
I assume this is a CYA maneuver to stave off lawsuits. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #13
His credibility will wither and blow away in the wind, but . . . RVN VET71 Jul 2021 #35
They don't care about the truth, they just don't want to be sued. BlueNProud Jul 2021 #15
Instead of the disclaimer, "Fair and Balanced" Fox should MissMillie Jul 2021 #20
"the various allegations" lindysalsagal Jul 2021 #25
That's a pretty Marvin Milquetoast disclaimer. BlueIdaho Jul 2021 #28
(This disclaimer ran for about 40 seconds on the screen.).......... riversedge Jul 2021 #29
"Everything he is saying is a lie... lame54 Jul 2021 #31
Why have these voting machine co's not sued Trump himself? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2021 #33

DFW

(54,341 posts)
21. That sounds like the most logical explanation
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 08:36 AM
Jul 2021

It‘s one thing to show Bugs Bunny on a cartoon station. It‘s quite another to claim the Easter Bunny is real on a station calling itself a news station.

TlalocW

(15,380 posts)
3. It actually walks a pretty good tightrope
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 12:57 AM
Jul 2021

It's not saying that Trump is wrong, which they will probably never do. Depending on which side you're one, you're going to put your own spin on it. We're going to look at it as, "Whoa, look at FOX going against TFG." His cult will look at it as a reminder of who cost them their leader.

TlalocW

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
8. Surely that disclaimer is incriminating in itself, showing that they
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 02:29 AM
Jul 2021

knew he was going to lie, but they still broadcast his words ?

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
11. A mystery within an enigma.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 02:56 AM
Jul 2021

My guess is that they are trying to have it both ways.

In true bothsidersism way.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
16. Same reason we call Jimmy Carter "President".
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:38 AM
Jul 2021

Or a former ambassador or senator "Ambassador So and So" and "Senator So and So".

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
19. A google search reveals no references to 'President' Jimmy Carter without a 'Former'.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 08:26 AM
Jul 2021

Except at the Carter Center, which I feel is appropriate.

But, then we almost never see him blathering away above a scroller.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
22. I tend to refer to President Carter, President Clinton and President Obama
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 08:57 AM
Jul 2021

But never have used that title for the former guy unless it's an actual title of an article. Those three actually won their elections to earn the title - not to mention that I voted for all three of them.

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
23. None for President Obama, either.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 09:04 AM
Jul 2021

In a news search. Except for, interestingly enough, Billboard, an entertainment site. Like Faux claims to be in the civil court room.

But, those were all popularly elected Presidents. There needs to be some additional bonus to the honor of serving a popular majority.

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
26. True, I can think of at least one person who won the popular vote and yet...
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 09:10 AM
Jul 2021

Wasn't allowed to serve a single term.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
32. "Same reason we call Jimmy Carter "President".
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jul 2021

Americans are unique in that. In Canada, and I assume, in other democracies, we would refer to a former Prime Minister as......wait for it........ former Prime Minister.

I guess its a nod of respect, but I always thought it was a bit odd.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
17. It's common practice. No different then calling Obama "President".
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:40 AM
Jul 2021

Dignitaries retain their title after leaving office or retiring.

ShazzieB

(16,361 posts)
13. I assume this is a CYA maneuver to stave off lawsuits.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:21 AM
Jul 2021

They want to be able to carry TFG's blather without appearing to endorse his unfounded accusations, in the hope that the voting machine companies won't be able to sue THEM based on HIS claims. Will it work? IANAL, so I have no idea.

That said, I love seeing this happen on Fox Noise, regardless of the reasoning behind it. I feel like his credibility is being slowly and steadily chipped away at, and this is one more tiny chip.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
35. His credibility will wither and blow away in the wind, but . . .
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:28 AM
Jul 2021

he will leave behind a strong legacy of divisiveness, hatred, racism, ignorance and willful delusion that may well signal the end of the American dream. The Founders all believed in a Republic whose citizenry was well educated and well informed. They would have considered a high school diploma as evidence of education, and a trained and open mind seeking out diversity of opinion as being well informed. Boy, were they wrong!

75,000,000 voted for Flubbo the Loser a second time. I cannot see that as anything but a sign of hopeless fragmentation and ultimate balkanization, not on ethnic but on intellectual and moral grounds.

The Left argues among itself over moral and ethical issues -- because the Left takes those issues seriously.

The Right isn’t burdened by such things and so, like a person deprived of conscience (or who has simply shucked off conscience) can lie with impunity, praising the Lord of Love while characterizing a murderous mob as everyday tourists, dissuading their own constituents form getting vaccinated against a disease that has killed 600,000 Americans in a year and a half, passing voting restrictive laws in response to a never-existing problem with massive voter fraud.

The 75 million worship at the altar of a sociopath and his paranoid-delusionary ministers, while those ministers and their plutocratic donors all laugh out loud amongst themselves about the suffering caused by their governmental negligence and by their outright deliberate attacks on the non-wealthy. (“No, no, no, no,” said Ex=Senator and marginally human being Rick Santorum, “we do not want to do the will of the people.” And the GOP voters all nudge each other with a drooling grin and say “Now there’s a man who knows what America’s all about!”)

I haven’t given up on Old Glory -- but I may, after the 2022 elections, if things do not go as well as they should for the Democrats.

MissMillie

(38,548 posts)
20. Instead of the disclaimer, "Fair and Balanced" Fox should
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 08:35 AM
Jul 2021

invite Dominion and Smartmatic for an on-air chat about vote "flipping"


Oh wait... only a "news" station would do that.

lindysalsagal

(20,664 posts)
25. "the various allegations"
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 09:08 AM
Jul 2021

"Basically, if this moron said it, it's B.S. Now, back to our regularly scheduled program."

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
28. That's a pretty Marvin Milquetoast disclaimer.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 11:48 AM
Jul 2021

“Voting system companies have denied?” Bullshit! How about “There is no truth to the irresponsible claims of the former guy.”

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
29. (This disclaimer ran for about 40 seconds on the screen.)..........
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jul 2021

I do not think Dominion will be satisfied with 49 secs. of truth.







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LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
33. Why have these voting machine co's not sued Trump himself?
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 02:04 PM
Jul 2021

Surely he is one of the most, if not THE most, harmful to their business reputation. He continues to thumb his nose at them, and is the biggest reason that a majority of Republican voters think he won.

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