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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe best way forward in the COVID-19 fight is for the FDA to give full approval to the vaccines.
This would allow businesses, health insurance companies, schools, our military, and other organizations to mandate that the vaccines be taken. That would push us over the threshold needed for herd immunity. The FDA has plenty of data to make this decision.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/11/fauci-vaccines-covid-approval-fda-499158
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/asa-hutchinson-covid-19-vaccines-fda-face-the-nation/
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,516 posts)We need to remove that as a dodge for those who won't accept the provisional status the vaccines currently have.
Enough is enough!
Ms. Toad
(33,992 posts)If we start side-stepping the process it may result in more entities requiring vaccination, but it will make people less confident that it was a scientific, rather than political, approval. Remember how skeptical some here were of the vaccine when Trump started talking about "Warp Speed"? The same thing will happen if we "warp speed" the approval process from the other side.
Yavin4
(35,420 posts)Whether we wait the full six months, or a year, or ten years for approval, they will still cry about the process.
Besides, their "opinion" is meaningless here. What is important here is to give businesses, schools, health insurance companies, etc. the tool they need to mandate the vaccine. People will still have the option to not get it, but it will come with severe costs, e.g. higher insurance premiums.
This is the only way forward.
Ms. Toad
(33,992 posts)but also among those of us who rely on the process to provide a reasonable amount of protection.
Both Moderna and Pfizer have already requested regular approval. The process will take closer to 6 months than 10 years.
Since "they" won't trust it, regardless of when it arrives, it is irresponsible to undercut the process which the rest of us do rely on.
dalton99a
(81,386 posts)Just do it.
Scrivener7
(50,901 posts)FDA or seriously watering down its effectiveness. And, flawed as it is, that would be a disaster.
This is an emergency. We bypassed some parts of the approval process because it is an emergency. That doesn't mean the approval process should be changed.
Voltaire2
(12,939 posts)Not the politics. These are the technical issues fauci is referring to.
boston bean
(36,217 posts)This is not political.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)The motive is a good one. Save lives. The process is testing and monitoring.
If you change the process because of the motive, then it becomes political.
boston bean
(36,217 posts)The process would be the same. Why does it have to be the same length of time? It doesnt. Over 300M does have been given to Americans. Move along with it already.
Never before have we had this type of rollout. So, why doesnt if follow it be done quicker. That is not political. Its common sense.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)It just happens that the procedures take ALOT of time.
It's already moving along at a 10 to 30 times pace. If this weren't a pandemic, we wouldn't see public rollout till the 2025 or 2030.
I think everyone appreciates the urgency. But there becomes an upper limit at how fast we can move from point A to Point B.
I'm sure if it could be done faster, Biden would do it.
Yavin4
(35,420 posts)Also, no, the unvaccinated won't wear masks and quarantine, and their governors won't pass any mask mandates into law. So that avenue is closed.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Whats okay with me is irrelevant.
This is a facts discussion. I do not have the power to change the facts to suit my wishes.
But isn't it better to understand whats going on, instead of just being sad about it?
I'm quite satisfied that President Biden is moving as fast as humanly possible. For those who feel differently they should write him a letter and explain what he's doing wrong.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)The only cure for stupidity is .....
Oh wait. There is no cure for stupidity.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)foley for the purpose of getting more people take it.
No. It needs to continue to follow the scientific route. Not the political route.
boston bean
(36,217 posts)In the US. Come on. Get a a move on.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)to get anything approved.
This time is already different.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Let's get it done. I don't think any drug has ever been so widely tested before.