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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:07 AM Jul 2021

Update!! Greg Abbott Says Fleeing Texas Democrats 'Will Be Arrested' When They Return to State

Last edited Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:26 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-fleeing-texas-democrats-will-arrested-return-state-1609070

Texas governor Greg Abbott said that Democratic lawmakers who have left the state can and "will be arrested" upon their return as he pushes ahead with changes in voting laws.

Abbott, a Republican, gave an interview to KVUE on Monday about the Democrats' decision to leave the state and whether the special session of the Texas legislature the governor called can go ahead.

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KVUE asked Abbott if the Democratic walkout meant the voting bills - Senate Bill 1 and House Bill 3 - could not be passed and if he could do anything as governor to compel the lawmakers to return to the state.

Abbott said there "still remains plenty of time to pass not just the bills you mentioned but there's a lot of other bills on there."
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https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/13/texas-democrats-walkout-voting-bill-arrest/

A showdown in the Texas House was locked into place Tuesday after the chamber voted overwhelmingly to send law enforcement after Democrats who left the state a day earlier in protest of a GOP priority elections legislation.

More than 50 House Democrats left Monday for Washington, D.C., to deny the chamber a quorum — the minimum number of lawmakers needed to conduct business — as it takes up voting restrictions and other Republican priorities in a special session.

That agenda, set by Gov. Greg Abbott, includes House Bill 3 and Senate Bill 1, the election legislation at hand that would make a number of changes to Texas' voting system, such as banning drive-thru and 24 hour voting options and further restricting the state's voting-by-mail rules. Over the weekend, both House and Senate committees advanced the election bills.

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Update!! Greg Abbott Says Fleeing Texas Democrats 'Will Be Arrested' When They Return to State (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 OP
send in the National Guard President Biden. nt Baltimike Jul 2021 #1
To do what? FBaggins Jul 2021 #8
Abbott is under federal investigation. Baltimike Jul 2021 #15
Federal investigators can only look at federal crimes/regulations FBaggins Jul 2021 #17
Nothing on DU MFM008 Jul 2021 #23
Republicans will gleefully lock up all the Democrats any way they can. hadEnuf Jul 2021 #34
You've said that very thing to a number of posters. LanternWaste Jul 2021 #41
No, he isn't... LeftInTX Jul 2021 #24
What? Dr. Strange Jul 2021 #37
Abbott has already True Blue American Jul 2021 #2
He doesn't has the authority.... the speaker needs to call for their arrest. Ellipsis Jul 2021 #3
Thank you for answering my question before I had to ask. Dreampuff Jul 2021 #5
Using the filibuster against Abbott? KS Toronado Jul 2021 #12
Yes and no FBaggins Jul 2021 #7
Does this mean a "catch and release" scenario? berniesandersmittens Jul 2021 #25
No... they aren't committing a crime FBaggins Jul 2021 #27
Thank you for the info! Lucinda Jul 2021 #39
Anti-democracy fkers Roland99 Jul 2021 #4
Gettin' ugly. Democracy is under direct assault. Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #6
Abbot's message to Texas Democrats, translated into English DFW Jul 2021 #9
Seems counter-productive. If they are all in jail how will the GOP get that elusive quorum? Scalded Nun Jul 2021 #10
The won't be brought to jail forthemiddle Jul 2021 #11
Eventually the GOP will simply stop recognizing all laws and rules, and just do whatever they want. Towlie Jul 2021 #13
Seems like things are going in that direction. ego_nation Jul 2021 #35
Well, then, they should never return to the state Trex666 Jul 2021 #14
That's ridiculous FBaggins Jul 2021 #16
you got to be a troll rockfordfile Jul 2021 #43
We are watching in real time what happens when a formerly deep red state is turning blue. Dustlawyer Jul 2021 #18
If the democrats take power walpurgis Jul 2021 #19
I hope the governor actually does try to arrest them. All hell will break loose! Martin68 Jul 2021 #20
Just words. TX Gov has no authority to order the arrest of anyone, let alone members of government. Demnation Jul 2021 #21
He doesn't have the authority to "order" them arrested... but he can say that they will be FBaggins Jul 2021 #22
This is not correct. Demnation Jul 2021 #31
There is now an arrest warrant ordering DPS to round them up. FBaggins Jul 2021 #33
Goodbye orangecrush Jul 2021 #38
Wisconsin Dems did the same in 2010 LakeArenal Jul 2021 #26
It does more than just postpone the inevitable FBaggins Jul 2021 #28
Democrats know their base. But I agree it shows some fight. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #29
Yes, because facing arrest on their return will make them want to go home Warpy Jul 2021 #30
Do it, I DARE YOU budkin Jul 2021 #32
Seem on a bumper sticker, last week bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #36
I can't think of anything better to increase voter turnout Skittles Jul 2021 #40
+1 Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #42

FBaggins

(26,728 posts)
8. To do what?
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:59 AM
Jul 2021

The state constitution says that they can be compelled to return and arrest is explicitly in the rules for that.

What would the Guard do?

The only option here (apart from losing the vote) is for the democrats involved to stay out of the state (and thus beyond the jurisdiction of anyone with the power to arrest them).

FBaggins

(26,728 posts)
17. Federal investigators can only look at federal crimes/regulations
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 11:12 AM
Jul 2021

How is this not entirely a state matter?

Frankly - your post sounds very Trump-esque. "I don't like what he said so 'lock him up!' "?

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
23. Nothing on DU
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jul 2021

Sounds like the maggot.
He and his supporters are trying to kill
Democracy as we know it.
That is not a "state" matter.
Why do you think the Texas dems are doing this
At all?

hadEnuf

(2,187 posts)
34. Republicans will gleefully lock up all the Democrats any way they can.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 05:24 PM
Jul 2021

And they are also solidly planning to take away certain American's right to vote.


Looking Trump-esque is the least of our worries.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
41. You've said that very thing to a number of posters.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 07:44 PM
Jul 2021

"your post sounds very Trump-esque...."

You've said that very thing to a number of posters this year. Advertises more about you than you probably realize. Good luck and godspeed!

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
2. Abbott has already
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:10 AM
Jul 2021

Ticked off the Republicans for cutting their salary. If they are not making money can Abbott force them to work for free?

FBaggins

(26,728 posts)
7. Yes and no
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:57 AM
Jul 2021

The speaker has already said that they will use all of the means under the state constitution and house rules to force them back... and that's the only one that is explicitly listed.

Doing so would involve state law enforcement - which couldn't happen if the governor opposed the action.

berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
25. Does this mean a "catch and release" scenario?
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:27 PM
Jul 2021

Even if they are immediately released, will they have a criminal arrest record?

FBaggins

(26,728 posts)
27. No... they aren't committing a crime
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jul 2021

The constitution empowers the remaining members with the power to "compel" their attendance in the chamber... which involves an "arrest" - but it isn't criminal and thus would not impact a record.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
9. Abbot's message to Texas Democrats, translated into English
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:03 AM
Jul 2021

Form the original Republicanese:

"Look, I am going to fix it so you can't vote in numbers significant enough to win any more elections in Texas. Get used to it."

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
11. The won't be brought to jail
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:09 AM
Jul 2021

In the interview I saw he said they will be arrested, and brought to the Statehouse so the vote could be called.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
13. Eventually the GOP will simply stop recognizing all laws and rules, and just do whatever they want.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:25 AM
Jul 2021

 


And Texas will probably be the first to do that. Then, if and when they succeed, the practice will spread across the red states.

ego_nation

(123 posts)
35. Seems like things are going in that direction.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 05:28 PM
Jul 2021

And I believe it will eventually lead to the end of the US.

FBaggins

(26,728 posts)
16. That's ridiculous
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 11:10 AM
Jul 2021

Not every district in the state is safe red or safe blue.

Never show up and you will eventually be replaced by someone from the other party.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
18. We are watching in real time what happens when a formerly deep red state is turning blue.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 11:16 AM
Jul 2021

The Repugs cannot bear to lose power so they are cheating. No telling how much graft and corruption would be uncovered if the Democrats take power after decades of Repug rule.

FBaggins

(26,728 posts)
22. He doesn't have the authority to "order" them arrested... but he can say that they will be
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jul 2021

Since the person who does have the authority to make the order has already said that it's coming - and the governor (in the person of state law enforcement) would be the one to carry it out.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
26. Wisconsin Dems did the same in 2010
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jul 2021

Same threats and retaliation. While admirable it just postponed the gutting of Wisconsin unions and human services.

My heart goes out with this attempt to save Democracy.

FBaggins

(26,728 posts)
28. It does more than just postpone the inevitable
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:46 PM
Jul 2021

It draws attention to the issue and sends the message to their base that they are "fighting" with every tool they have available.

Failure to do so can have a negative impact on turnout.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
30. Yes, because facing arrest on their return will make them want to go home
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 02:14 PM
Jul 2021

Of all the stupid fuckers Texas has ever elected, Abbot takes the prize.

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