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leftieNanner

(15,074 posts)
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 04:52 PM Jul 2021

Pence Feared What Trump Would Do

On January 6th.

According to Nicole Wallace:

"Pence feared a conspiracy, feared that the Secret Service would aid Trump and his ultimate aims that day," said Wallace. "This is the most harrowing version of Mike Pence's day I've seen reported."

https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-feared-secret-service/

Incredible addition to the story of the insurrection.

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Pence Feared What Trump Would Do (Original Post) leftieNanner Jul 2021 OP
Pence could do the right thing..agree to tell all..oh yeah he's a gqp...never mind PortTack Jul 2021 #1
He Still Thinks leftieNanner Jul 2021 #2
I think True Blue American Jul 2021 #6
Only after Biden made a public speech wnylib Jul 2021 #19
Yes. True Blue American Jul 2021 #31
Pence will talk when he realizes he can make money off of it Skittles Jul 2021 #8
And not a Brawny either, lightweight store brand n/t hibbing Jul 2021 #10
you got that right Skittles Jul 2021 #11
More like cheap one ply toilet paper Dakota Flint Jul 2021 #15
He might be afraid, I have to think he knows he will never be president, and the 0% he got at the Escurumbele Jul 2021 #14
Maybe it's just me, but he *did* do the right thing at least once renate Jul 2021 #30
The GOP failed to remove Trump from office with the first impeachment bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #3
I just heard that! True Blue American Jul 2021 #4
Traitorville USA BeyondGeography Jul 2021 #5
Holy crap!!! PatSeg Jul 2021 #7
Fuck Pence keithsw Jul 2021 #9
What an indictment of our Secret Service Mr. Ected Jul 2021 #12
That is also my reaction. Very concerning. Metatron Jul 2021 #13
I dont buy it. I dont think the SS liked trump oldsoftie Jul 2021 #22
Trump had his loyal supporters True Blue American Jul 2021 #32
Incorrect -- Trump's SS agents loved him obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #37
The Committee should call in the Secret Service detail... kentuck Jul 2021 #16
That is an angle I hadn't considered. tanyev Jul 2021 #17
The reason he wouldn't get in the car leftieNanner Jul 2021 #18
That was my understanding too Poiuyt Jul 2021 #25
100% right! True Blue American Jul 2021 #33
"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli." nt Buns_of_Fire Jul 2021 #41
I was under the impression that Grassley would've taken over. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #23
Perhaps I should have said temporarily halted the vote certification. tanyev Jul 2021 #27
I certainly agree with that!! oldsoftie Jul 2021 #35
I'm guessing Mike Pence is writing his memoir FakeNoose Jul 2021 #20
no sympathy for snivelimg Putz bringthePaine Jul 2021 #21
I knew it. czarjak Jul 2021 #24
I would love to hear what Karen (Mother) Pence thinks... she despised TFG to begin with IcyPeas Jul 2021 #26
Yikes Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #28
He had good reason to be concerned about being a casualty of a coup. David__77 Jul 2021 #29
With that Hang Mike Pence Gallows? True Blue American Jul 2021 #34
Pence feared he'd have to do something decent and proper. Paladin Jul 2021 #36
The OP says actually the opposite of what you claim obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #38
That doesn't make it believable. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #40
I didn't say that obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #42
It is bizarro world when Liz Cheney and Mike Pence are the "sane" GOPers obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #39
so did i. barbtries Jul 2021 #43

leftieNanner

(15,074 posts)
2. He Still Thinks
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 04:57 PM
Jul 2021

That he will be in the Oval Office one day.

Can't piss off his Lord and Master if he wants to do that!

Idiot.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
6. I think
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:23 PM
Jul 2021

Eventually Pence will tell all. The surprise in the book is that Ivanka tried to get him to stop the mob. Didn’t Trump eventually come out, tell them to go home now?

wnylib

(21,417 posts)
19. Only after Biden made a public speech
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:00 PM
Jul 2021

demanding that he call them off.

And when he did finally tell them to go home, he told them what wonderful people they were and how much he loved them.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
8. Pence will talk when he realizes he can make money off of it
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:10 PM
Jul 2021

after he finally understands he will NEVER be president because

1) in the end he didn't hump Trump hard enough and

2) he has the personality of a paper towel

Escurumbele

(3,383 posts)
14. He might be afraid, I have to think he knows he will never be president, and the 0% he got at the
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:45 PM
Jul 2021

CPAC should be a warning to him. Even if he was a good man, which he is not, republicans will never vote for him because the see him as a traitor who was not able to turn the election results to the side of the buffoon.

I think he knows he is still being looked at as an enemy, he must be very paranoid.

I tell you, republicans have no guts, no principles, they are all a bunch of cowards. It is amazing.

renate

(13,776 posts)
30. Maybe it's just me, but he *did* do the right thing at least once
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 01:20 AM
Jul 2021

And he didn’t just do the right thing for show (we never heard about this until now) or, conversely, pretend to be unwilling to subvert democracy by allowing himself to be whisked off to Alaska “for his own safety“ and leave Trump to carry out the treasonous plan.

He actually may have been the last firewall between us and tyranny. I loathed him for all four years of the Trump horror show, but I am impressed by his actions on January 6.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
3. The GOP failed to remove Trump from office with the first impeachment
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:06 PM
Jul 2021

We escaped because as concentrated as power is in the White House, and as many stooges as Trump installed, power was still divided enough for just enough gatekeepers to do what was in the best interests of the country. But this was a narrow escape.

Big take-away: Pence was thinking. Call me amazed.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
4. I just heard that!
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:20 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Fri Jul 16, 2021, 04:43 AM - Edit history (1)

SS told Pence to get in the car, he refused to saying,” I know you guys will drive away!”

Pence and his wife went to a safe place. Pence actually refused to leave untoil the Secret Service convinced him they were in the building..Jim Jordan said they needed to protect the ladies. Liz slapped his hand away and said,” You Fin caused this!” She is good friends with MIlley. Talks to him often.

keithsw

(436 posts)
9. Fuck Pence
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:18 PM
Jul 2021

I hate him as much as, if not more than shitty britches. He could have spoke out and stopped everything before it started. He knew EXACTLY what was going on

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
12. What an indictment of our Secret Service
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:43 PM
Jul 2021

The politicization of that agency should be the cause of great alarm. I wonder what has happened post-Trump within the agency.

oldsoftie

(12,516 posts)
22. I dont buy it. I dont think the SS liked trump
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:30 PM
Jul 2021

I doubt he treated them very well or showed any appreciation

obamanut2012

(26,050 posts)
37. Incorrect -- Trump's SS agents loved him
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:27 AM
Jul 2021

They literally reassigned some both after the election and after January 6 and January 20, because they feared for both the Republic and Biden and Harris.

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
17. That is an angle I hadn't considered.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:56 PM
Jul 2021

The gallows the MAGAmob built was chilling, but just getting Pence off the premises, even for his own safety, would have effectively halted the vote certification. Got to give him some grudging props for doing the right thing there.

leftieNanner

(15,074 posts)
18. The reason he wouldn't get in the car
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:57 PM
Jul 2021

Was because he feared that the person driving might be a Trump fan. He was worried about being kidnapped!!

At least, that's my understanding.

oldsoftie

(12,516 posts)
23. I was under the impression that Grassley would've taken over.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:33 PM
Jul 2021

Or if everyone left, it would simply have happened the next day

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
27. Perhaps I should have said temporarily halted the vote certification.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:12 PM
Jul 2021

And the longer the delay, the more time Donny would have had to rally his faithful minions in the House to obstruct and delay further. Not that they would have changed the outcome, but they could have added even more mess and chaos to an already bad situation. It was the right decision to get back in there and finish it up as soon as they could.

FakeNoose

(32,612 posts)
20. I'm guessing Mike Pence is writing his memoir
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jul 2021

... but it won't be published until after he and Chump are dead.

Or Chump anyway.

IcyPeas

(21,856 posts)
26. I would love to hear what Karen (Mother) Pence thinks... she despised TFG to begin with
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:43 PM
Jul 2021

She was disgusted with trumps grab em by the p.....

David__77

(23,367 posts)
29. He had good reason to be concerned about being a casualty of a coup.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 11:39 PM
Jul 2021

I’m sure Pence knows that Trump would snuff him out in an instant without hesitation.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
36. Pence feared he'd have to do something decent and proper.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:21 AM
Jul 2021

Fuck him and the rest of the trump enablers.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
43. so did i.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:39 PM
Jul 2021

but all i could do was sit here and fret.

clearly there were people both in the police and in the military and secret service who were on board with the insurrection. question was, were there enough? fortunately not, but i was scared that day. I knew there would be violence that day, though i didn't foresee an actual insurrection at the Capitol.

what trump did must have validated pence's worst fears. and what is that cowardly weasel saying these days?

just ordered the book.

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