it looks worse and worse and worse and...

[NewHendoLib]

https://covidactnow.org/?s=2054974

second map. Was all yellow - then orange crept in. green went away. now red is blossoming, yellow is receding.

Shit.

[Cracklin Charlie]

1. Those numbers are terrible.

Be safe out there, folks.

[leftieNanner]

2. Our County was doing pretty well

Numbers of cases in the single and low double digits. Fewer deaths.

Those numbers are going back up now.

Mostly blue county - but with a lot of anti-vaxxers (not just anti-Covid vax).

I still wear my mask when I go out.

[roamer65]

3. The 4 July surge.

[Ms. Toad]

13. Not really.

The numbers have been slowly but steadily increasing for the past 5 weeks - and the nature of exponential growth is that it isn't bad, until it is.

If you map the current curve onto the curve that started mid-September last year it is a near-perfect match.

[roamer65]

15. It's coming.

Just watch.

[Ms. Toad]

17. It's coming -

I've been saying that since the CDC's announcement.

I just don't think the 4th of July was that much different than all of the rest of the toss-the-mask-and-distancing going on. I don't think there will be much of a blip attributable specifically to July 4th

[SWBTATTReg]

4. Thanks for the map, very nice. I added Springfield MO to the matrix and WHOA! The

original map w/ highlighted w/ STLMO being the city diagrammed and when I added Springfield MO, Wow.

The adding of Springfield MO clearly shows the disaster that is unfolding in Springfield, MO, and SW Missouri. Perhaps the differences in the before (w/ just STLMO) and afterwards (with Springfield MO too), shows the differences in vaccine efforts (St. Louis MO had a major FEMA center located downtown vaccinating a whole swath of people, appropriately 150K people).

I also added Joplin to the mix, and it too, showed a huge increase, like Springfield, MO. The original map (showing STLMO only) is misleading in the fact that STLMO is not the epicenter of the latest COVID 19 outbreak, it's Springfield, MO, so take the original map w/ a grain of salt and replace STLMO w/ Springfield, MO if you want a better picture of COVID 19 outbreak in Missouri.

[Caliman73]

12. Rachel Madddow was talking about Springfield and neighboring rural counties.

On her show, yesterday I believe, she was talking about the absolute crisis in that area of Missouri.

[David__77]

5. I'm glad that breakthrough cases are rare among vaccinated.

1 in 2,000 thus far according to this https://abc7news.com/covid-breakthrough-cases-case-delta-variant-vaccinated/10885528/: Still, a risk of course.

[New Breed Leader]

7. Yes but it won't be long

before this setback causes the next mutation of the virus to be vaccine-resistant.

[regnaD kciN]

14. Not so sure it hasn't already happened...

Look at the sports news: six New York Yankees went to the All-Star Game. All six were vaccinated. All six have since tested positive for COVID. I get that “breakthrough infections” take place, but 100% of all potential cases sounds like something more to me.

[Ms. Toad]

20. Remember -

They stopped tracking asymptomatic (but contagious) breakthrough cases.

And more exposure for those vaccinated (and already inclined to be safer - until the CDC mask announcement) will increase the number of breakthrough cases - so we're still on the early end of increased expsoure (low rate of infection in the population, initial hesitancy to remove masks). And - that number a snapshot in time, without the information needed to interpret it accurately - what was the proportion of vaccinated v. not vaccinated? Which vaccine? What is the infection rate in the involved communities? What is the testing rate among vaccinated v. not vaccinated? (Are vaccinated people avoiding testing because they believe themselves immune?))

[David__77]

25. Good points.

Thank you.

[Fullduplexxx]

6. Mission accomplished

[NQAS]

8. You know, I really am puzzled, despite everything

MO, AR, TN, AL, GA, and FL are red in the link, one color shy of severe risk.

Of course, you can cherry pick whatever information you want from this data and conclude - almost certainly erroneously - that things are just fine in these states. Florida, for example, stands at 25th in vaccination rates, so, yay Florida? Except that the analysis of all the data leads the developers of this website to conclude that they are now in, what high risk? extreme risk?

So here's my puzzlement. I get it, Southerners - white, Christian, evangelical, white supremacist, what have you - are going to own the libs with their vehement anti-vax, anti-science belief. But what do they think when they look at maps like this? What do they think when people - their people - on their Covid deathbeds, express regret at their anti-vax decisions. What do they think when they see their local newspapers report the latest Covid surges? Do they think, yeah, that's just where I want to be? I'm fine with the added risk of dying a miserable death, and that makes me feel good? I'm not gonna get that vaccine, even though it was Lord Donald who developed it single-handedly when no one else would? Are they not able to see the madness? Do they really not care? Is it because Black people get the vaccine, and they don't want anything that Black people have? Are they so true to their "religion" that needlessly dying is somehow just fine with them?

Do these thoughts never occur to them? And if/when they do, how do they return to the party line and continue to refuse the vaccine? How do they look at their families and say, nope, no vaccines for you either? Is it out of spite. Is it really because Joe Biden won and TFG lost? Does it really come down to owning the libs?

Maybe it really is a death cult. And if they themselves don't die, then perhaps they consider themselves anointed, and the risk is worth it?

[NewHendoLib]

9. they don't think. they just do and believe what they're told.

[thucythucy]

10. They think it's all "fake news"

and that they and only they are thinking straight.

Until the virus hits them or kills someone they love.

Then they might--might--reconsider.

Or they'll blame the whole thing on Obama, gays, China, Biden, Hillary's emails, or those pernicious Jewish space lasars.

Did I leave out George Soros? Also George Soros.

[Crunchy Frog]

11. They don't think and they don't care, pretty much.

Happy to sacrifice the lives of themselves and their families to the greater cause of "owning the libs".

Even people like that may have some second thoughts as the tube slides down the trachea though.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

21. Ex evilgelical here

First let me say,evangelical religion made me go psychotic.

When I got separated from my ex in a Wawa I thought he was raptured. I immediately thought why him. Banished that thought because it was unchristian, then raw terror washed over me it triggered my pstd thinking of being hunted,raped ,tortured made sick,abused until I died. Luckily my ex was just in the bathroom that particular Wawa I thought didn't have a bathroom.

There is alot involved with what I went through at assemblies of gawd.


First the bible tells you to not care for the world,Satan controls it.
You are powerless.

So you are to accept your persecution and suffering because it gets you more jewels in your crown and a bit closer to god. You will be rewarded because you let a belief system control your heart and you sufferered for that belief.

You are told not to care about yourself or the future..as in do the birds worry where the next meal will come from kind of thing.

Than the rapture is supposed to happen any day now,but you will not know when it happens. Nor will you know if you get picked to escape in the rapture or why you didntget picked .
Look to signs. People project all kinds of shit into what a sign might be. They scout the news and bible for hints. Because being a christian gets basically unliveable after awhile.So rapture becomes a preoccupation.

Talk about some anxiety producing bullshit.

Rapture is supposed to spare the most christian of the christians from all the coming suffering of tribulation.

Hence the dick measuring contests over how close you behave according to the abhorrent contradictory morality outlined in the bible.

It basically teaches black and white thinking,it gives you extreme anxiety,and tells you to stop caring about suffering,the world,non christians, those " mired in sin"etc. If you can't convert them by being a total ass,than it's up to god.

It's teaching the values of psychopathy.

It's not a death cult per se,it's a psychopath factory.

I got out because I could not see how jesus would vote republican as supposedly he is not of this world..they pressured me alright, and also I didn't want to harass people to convert them.

Because my sense of what's right and wrong was strong,and I had my strong independent streak,knew how to think critically and my empathy and compassion didn't get crushed I was able to get the fuck out. But not without some damage and a burning hatred for all things christian.

These evilgelicals are not past giving people personality tests the kind psychiatrists use to get in the heads of the flock.

Evilgelicals brainwash each other until there is nothing but a shell full of lies willing to kill or die,with no moral compass left.

[NewHendoLib]

26. great, important post. thanks for sharing. Chilling!

[NQAS]

27. Wow

Appreciate the insights

[Ms. Toad]

16. Entirely predictable.

Unfortunately. But we are not only contending with those who refuse to get vaccinated - we are also contending with a large contingent of "I got mine, go die" who insist that people who are vaccinated are safe and don't need to add layers of protection.

I am not at all surprise by this - although I'm a bit surprised at the timing. I had hoped it would hold off until the fall when people went back indoors (which would create a massive surge on the same timing as last year). But we seem to be headed for it early.

Maybe people will recognize the signs earlier and be able to head it off. The stomp on the messenger seems to have calmed down a bit, at least the last couple of weeks.

[leftstreet]

19. Do you know if anyone is studying vax transmission?

Earlier we were told fully vaxxed people can still carry and transmit the virus, without becoming symptomatic. Do you believe that's still true, and is anyone tracking that for confirmation?

Thanks

[Ms. Toad]

22. I believe it is true -

Generally transmission is tied to infection (asymptomatic or not), so if vaccinated individuals are acquiring COVID (even asymptomatically), they can transmit it.

There is far less tracking - and the CDC has stopped tracking asymptomatic breakthrough cases (although I think there are isolated studies going on).

I'll see if I can find confirmation (but it's likely to be later - possibly tomorrow - since I'm heading out to cook a feast for my students).

[leftstreet]

23. thank you! n/t

[AngryOldDem]

18. Dr. Peter Hotez on MSNBC right now

Points at not only Facebook, but Amazon for selling a wide variety of antivax books, far right groups. and our old standbys Fox News and Newsmax for spreading disinformation.

Like lemmings right over a cliff, go those who can’t think for themselves and act in their own best interests.

We’ll be locked down again by the holidays, the way this is going. But…FREE-DUMB! (Emphasis on the DUMB.)

This virus will be with us for awhile, but we can choose not to make its effects any worse than they already are.

[smirkymonkey]

24. MA has gone to HIGH risk from LOW risk two weeks ago.

And we are one of the most vaccinated, most compliant w/ covid safety protocol states in the nation.