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misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:44 PM Jul 2021

New Study: Clock is ticking on modern civilization

A new study by one of the world's largest accounting firms seems to confirm a 1972 MIT hypothesis that modern civilization will self-destruct around the year 2040.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3xw3x/new-research-vindicates-1972-mit-prediction-that-society-will-collapse-soon?fbclid=IwAR234WI1659EyDGRVRsMS25BtCkWyZEIqvnrrYyCrQ4JXDerpwhDFFn2gbA


Herrington’s new analysis examines data across 10 key variables, namely population, fertility rates, mortality rates, industrial output, food production, services, non-renewable resources, persistent pollution, human welfare, and ecological footprint. She found that the latest data most closely aligns with two particular scenarios, ‘BAU2’ (business-as-usual) and ‘CT’ (comprehensive technology).

“BAU2 and CT scenarios show a halt in growth within a decade or so from now,” the study concludes. “Both scenarios thus indicate that continuing business as usual, that is, pursuing continuous growth, is not possible. Even when paired with unprecedented technological development and adoption, business as usual as modelled by LtG would inevitably lead to declines in industrial capital, agricultural output, and welfare levels within this century.”





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New Study: Clock is ticking on modern civilization (Original Post) misanthrope Jul 2021 OP
That's it. I quit. Throck Jul 2021 #1
That's the best plan I've heard yet! roamer65 Jul 2021 #2
Stocking up on bourbon and gin. Throck Jul 2021 #3
of course you'll be alive! lanlady Jul 2021 #4
👍👍 roamer65 Jul 2021 #6
Woohoo I'm in. Throck Jul 2021 #7
Do you know if her paper or the MIT paper discusses the likelihood of these shortages leading to war Jim__ Jul 2021 #5
The Club of Rome predicted this in the 70s. Throck Jul 2021 #8
I completely agree with your suppositions misanthrope Jul 2021 #9
Taking reservations at The Restaurant at the End of Universe. rickyhall Jul 2021 #10
+ 100 Yup... abqtommy Jul 2021 #12
Check this out TheProle Jul 2021 #11

Throck

(2,520 posts)
1. That's it. I quit.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:52 PM
Jul 2021

Going to cash in my retirement and live a life of debauchery and sin before the big one hits.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
2. That's the best plan I've heard yet!
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:53 PM
Jul 2021


I’ll be 75 in 2040, so at that point if I am alive I won’t care anymore.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
4. of course you'll be alive!
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jul 2021

I'll be 83 in 2040 and have every intention of being at the end-of-civilization party. Join me for drinks on the terrasse?

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
5. Do you know if her paper or the MIT paper discusses the likelihood of these shortages leading to war
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 04:03 PM
Jul 2021

I read the article on VICE and bookmarked the full study. But just reading through the article, I kept thinking that the types of shortages they're talking about could easily trigger a war. Rather than tell their citizens that they have to cut back on their lifestyles, I would expect governments to point at the activities of other countries and claim that malicious action by them is the cause of the problem.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
9. I completely agree with your suppositions
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:11 PM - Edit history (2)

That's what the evidence provided by human history, and biology in general, tells us will happen. Sorry, but I don't have insights as to whether or how much warfare was factored in.

EDIT TO ADD:
I think the economic influence of industrial output on this scenario isn't the primary driver. Our ecological impact alone is what will do all of this.

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