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Biden: "They're killing people" (Original Post) ChrisF1961 Jul 2021 OP
Speak the truth! nt joetheman Jul 2021 #1
Keeping it simple n/t hibbing Jul 2021 #2
True that! FloridaBlues Jul 2021 #3
Accessory to murder lawsuits, anyone? /nt dickthegrouch Jul 2021 #4
I'm with you 100% KS Toronado Jul 2021 #8
So am I. calimary Jul 2021 #12
Me too! SallyHemmings Jul 2021 #18
Hang this round tfg's neck dickthegrouch Jul 2021 #25
hah NJCher Jul 2021 #5
You can tell how disgusted he is with the antivax idiots. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #6
Maybe He Should Reach Across The Aisle To His "Friends" SoCalDavidS Jul 2021 #7
If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog IronLionZion Jul 2021 #10
I pretty much approve of Joe's direction so far but, Mr. Evil Jul 2021 #13
Well you got a better idea with a 50 50 Senate...I am so sick of the attacks on Biden by those Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #27
Joe is well aware of what right wing media is doing with misinformation. KS Toronado Jul 2021 #9
We could use public service announcements wnylib Jul 2021 #16
hoped to find that at youtube NJCher Jul 2021 #19
It really is great. Starts out with a wnylib Jul 2021 #20
I ordered the dvd from Amazon. wnylib Jul 2021 #21
Don't forget the TV series "The Last Ship" dickthegrouch Jul 2021 #24
Never saw it. wnylib Jul 2021 #29
I found NJCher Jul 2021 #26
Contagion has a huckster promoting a fake product, wnylib Jul 2021 #30
JRB: "The only pandemic we have is amongst the unvaccinated." ffr Jul 2021 #11
Yawn, who cares.... Jon King Jul 2021 #14
Heart disease, cancer, accidents, diabetes DO NOT TRANSMIT TO INNOCENT PEOPLE Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2021 #17
I'd imagine everyone posting on this thread cares to some degree... yourself included LanternWaste Jul 2021 #23
Biden is right. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2021 #15
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2021 #22
CORRECT Skittles Jul 2021 #28
Fuckkkerberg's platform of pestilence Blue Owl Jul 2021 #31

dickthegrouch

(3,169 posts)
4. Accessory to murder lawsuits, anyone? /nt
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 04:43 PM
Jul 2021

Wrongful death suits?

Complicity in a wrongful death?

The one thing that helped keep (real) news organizations away from that kind of suit was integrity and responsible reporting IMHO. Free-speech be damned when it can kill and is coming from a supposedly reputable organiztion.

I think even the GOP and Senators should be held liable for this. Killing people is NOT part of their congressional mandate.

President Biden may just have given the DOJ the tool it needs to stamp on all of.

dickthegrouch

(3,169 posts)
25. Hang this round tfg's neck
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jul 2021

If Facebook et al are (still) killing people with misinformation, what does that say about tfg’s original statement “this will miraculously go away “?
He already admitted that it was misinformation.
I think the President’s opinion should be used to squash the entire GOP misinformation machine In one fell swoop.
Everyone who has lost a relative to COVID should have standing now to bring a wrongful death suit with a very long list of defendants.

ShazzieB

(16,274 posts)
6. You can tell how disgusted he is with the antivax idiots.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:10 PM
Jul 2021

It's written all over his face. He has made it so easy to get vaccinated, and those fools are screwing everything up. You can tell he's sick of the whole thing.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
7. Maybe He Should Reach Across The Aisle To His "Friends"
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jul 2021

Ya know....the Bipartisanship he says still exists.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
10. If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jul 2021

he still has Major the rescue dog who would never share misinformation.

Mr. Evil

(2,825 posts)
13. I pretty much approve of Joe's direction so far but,
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jul 2021

fuck bipartisanship. Keep the agenda alive and if it means leaving the republicans behind and stuck in the mud then so be it. They're Fascists. They hate humanity and anything humane. Mussolini all of them!

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
27. Well you got a better idea with a 50 50 Senate...I am so sick of the attacks on Biden by those
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:25 PM
Jul 2021

on our side....what a snide comment about Biden. He doesn't deserve it either.

KS Toronado

(17,155 posts)
9. Joe is well aware of what right wing media is doing with misinformation.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:31 PM
Jul 2021

Hopefully all the Democratic congress people in Washington D. C. can develop a plan to fight this
before it's to late. reQublicans trying to tank the economy with trillions of $$$ of hospital bills?

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
16. We could use public service announcements
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:11 PM
Jul 2021

that debunk some of the specific disinformation being spread about vaccine side effects and supposed dangers. They would have to be honest about some of the negatives, like feeling sick for a short time after the second mRNA shot, but explaining that it's normal and not nearly as bad as getting covid. Explain, too, about J&J in younger women, minor heart inflammation in teens. Factual information about which vaccine is best for age groups, vaccine risks and how easily they are treated is necessary because, in the absence of factual info, people create their own suspicions.

Use well known, trusted public figures and some visuals on how viruses spread and the kind of damage covid does. Maybe a combination of short, repeated messages and longer infomercial type messages.

The extras section on my dvd of the film Contagion has an excellent cartoon type explanation of how viruses spread. The visuals and voice are too fast for many people, but a slower version would be great.

NJCher

(35,620 posts)
19. hoped to find that at youtube
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:06 PM
Jul 2021

Lots of Contagion clips but nothing from the extras section.

Ratz. Sounded like something that would be good.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
20. It really is great. Starts out with a
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:24 PM
Jul 2021

stick figure standing on a globe. As the virus spreads, lines appear that connect the stick figure to other ones across national boundaries, where the lines blossom out within each country and then beyond.

Meantime, a voice explains what is happening, how viruses need hosts to multiply and create mutations. It mentions how businesses and public services shut down in a pandemic and supply chains get disrupted. It ends with advice on sanitation to protect onesself and stop the spread.

It is all done at rapid speed, but if slowed down, is a good educational video.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
21. I ordered the dvd from Amazon.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:38 PM
Jul 2021

It is part of a set that includes Outbreak. Crazy to watch 2 pandemic films during a pandemic, but I wanted to compare them to real life for accuracy. Contagion is remarkably accurate about public reaction and human nature.

Outbreak is more of an action adventure film, but there is one scene in it that I wish evrryone could see because it illustrates how infectious people spread viruses. An infected guy in a movie theater coughs and the film shows tiny particles of virus floating through the air. They land inside the open mouth of a woman a few rows down who is laughing at the movie. After seeing that illustration, most people would be very eager to wear masks in public.

dickthegrouch

(3,169 posts)
24. Don't forget the TV series "The Last Ship"
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:05 PM
Jul 2021

The first season was a pretty good disaster preparedness premise. With all the venal goppers and saboteurs you never expected.

NJCher

(35,620 posts)
26. I found
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:22 PM
Jul 2021

3 libraries near me for Contagion.

Outbreak just one.

Going to try to get it tomorrow.

Hah, then I have to figure out to connect my dvd player!

I'll be really interested to see how Contagion is accurate with public reaction.

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
30. Contagion has a huckster promoting a fake product,
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:15 PM
Jul 2021

but in real life, it was worse because it was the president.

There are differences, too, but many similarities.
As I watched it, I thought about how, when it was first released, people considered it a scary sci fi movie. Now it's the real thing in real life.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
14. Yawn, who cares....
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:04 PM
Jul 2021

Heart disease, cancer, accidents, diabetes, and other things kill way more than Covid. If Repugs want to be stupid, oh well.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,960 posts)
17. Heart disease, cancer, accidents, diabetes DO NOT TRANSMIT TO INNOCENT PEOPLE
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:13 PM
Jul 2021

Are you really that much against public health that you

DON'T CARE?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. I'd imagine everyone posting on this thread cares to some degree... yourself included
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:59 PM
Jul 2021

I also imagine you'll rationalize that as something other than what it is.

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