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JULY 16, 2021 / 1:33 PM / CBS/AP
Contractors hired by Arizona Senate Republicans to oversee a partisan review of the 2020 election said Thursday that they don't have enough information yet to complete their report, and they want legislators to subpoena more records and survey tens of thousands of voters at home ...
Senate Republicans had already planned to canvass homes and ask people about their voting patterns, but in May dropped the idea under pressure from the U.S. Department of Justice, which warned the effort could violate laws against voter intimidation ...
Before Logan was contracted by the Arizona Senate to conduct the audit, he spread conspiracy theories backing former President Trump's false claims of fraud, including one linking Dominion voting machines to the late Venezuelan dictator, Hugo Chavez ...
Jack Sellers, the Republican chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, said in a statement that the auditors are "portraying as suspicious what is actually normal and well known to people who work in elections" ...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-election-audit-need-information-report-results/
Fullduplexxx
(7,860 posts)struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)BY JEREMY STAHL
JULY 16, 202111:49 AM
On Thursday, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann offered the public its clearest picture yet of the monthslong audit of Maricopa Countys election, holding a hearing with auditor, Cyber Ninjas CEO, and Hugo-Chavez-somehow-corrupted-the-2020-election-despite-being-dead conspiracy theorist Doug Logan.
Logan, whose work pretending to hand-tabulate the ballots and checking for bamboo fibers in ballot paper ended three weeks ago, offered very little about what his recount and forensic analysis had uncovered. He instead said that he had much work still to do and that he would save his irrefutable evidence for his final report. Logan is asking the state Senate to issue further subpoenas to the Republican-dominated Maricopa County Board of Supervisors (who have come to see the audit as a dangerous circus) and to let him go ahead with a countywide canvass that the U.S. Department of Justice has warned might violate federal law. Indeed, the only other Republican senator taking part in the hearing, Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Petersen, made a show of repeatedly insisting that unless Logan is given what he wants, the audit will be incomplete ...
The breadcrumbs that Logan, Petersen, and Fann laid out in the hearing were enough to preview what is likely in store when Logan releases his report in the weeks ahead.* Without specifically challenging the vote count, Logan spent much of the hearing dropping outrageous-sounding numbers of suspicious vote tallies to insinuate fraud without actually proving anything. This appears to be Logans ultimate game plan, straight out of the Kraken playbook: Drop dozens of disproven or easily disprovable charges into a report, claim there is a massive cover-up of election fraud, and wave his hands at the big picture even as his charges are easily shown, one by one, to be lies ...
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/07/trump-declares-victory-arizona-audit-debunked.html
Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)people to know the law...Please say it, it either does or it does not, this is a "yes" or "no" kind of issue. I really dislike the use of "maybe", "might" and so forth on these kind of issues, the law has to be clear.
struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)BY TAL AXELROD - 07/16/21 02:07 PM EDT
... Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Michael Kemp shot down a motion from the GOP to dismiss a lawsuit from liberal watchdog group American Oversight seeking documents related to the state Senates audit.
Attorneys for the Republicans had argued that the information, which is currently in the possession of the private contracting firm Cyber Ninjas, is not obtainable under public disclosure rules. But Kemp rejected that argument Wednesday.
"Nothing in the statute absolves Senate defendants' responsibilities to keep and maintain records for authorities supported by public monies by merely retaining a third-party contractor who in turn hires subvendors," the judge wrote ...
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/563416-arizona-audit-muddles-on-with-no-clear-end-in-sight
struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)By Charles P. Pierce
Jul 16, 2021
On Thursday afternoon, out in Arizona, there was a hearing in the state senate regarding the extended farce now in its third month out at the fairgrounds. You will be shocked, Im sure, to know that its now feeding back on itself, a Möbius strip for dicks, in such a way that it never may end, which is sort of the point, because the entire exercise is meant to keep uncertainty alive among the rubes about the clear results of the election ...
... This is a political perpetual-motion machine that is designed never to finish its purported job. As is the case with all ratfcking, the process itself is the point.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a37048550/arizona-2020-election-audit-continue-forever/
Blue Dawn
(892 posts)If it remains an open " investigation, " then the big lie continues and the Magats can remain convinced that Biden did not win Arizona. They can keep this going until the next election takes place.
It truly is a "Mobius strip for dicks," as you so brilliantly described it.
struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)It seems fortunes can be made ripping off dim-witted republicans.
elleng
(130,874 posts)chowder66
(9,067 posts)Takket
(21,563 posts)Read that as: bring angry MAGAts into black neighborhoods and try to intimidate the people living there. I hope these communities get together and run these scumbags right out of town if they try this.
malaise
(268,957 posts)I'd dare them to visit me
Traildogbob
(8,726 posts)Allow them to confiscate your Bible and Guns if they go door to door? Excuse me, Bibles. (BuyBull)
malaise
(268,957 posts)Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Offered a point by point refutation of all the Ninja claims in real time.
There never will be a final report. The Ninjas know they will be sued the moment it drops.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)susanr516
(1,425 posts)Their results show Biden won the county, despite everything they tried to flip enough votes.
tanyev
(42,552 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,274 posts)Will give then job security for the foreseeable future.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Voter: "Biden"
Goons: "Nice place you have here, be a shame if something happened to it." "Who did you vote for again?"
Initech
(100,067 posts)Retrograde
(10,134 posts)and if you are going to use the French/Latin words like "election" and "choice" I can not speak with you.
(yeah, I know Anglo-Saxon was not pronounced the way we speak English now, but still can insist that they only use words that originated in that language. Or Polish, since I can say "Go to hell" in that language.)
keithbvadu2
(36,783 posts)don't have enough information (that they want)
They do not want the truth.