Does @ninaturner thinks we have memory Loss? She wanted Trump Re-elected! ...

[NurseJackie]

Seriously, people... watch the video in this tweet. It's a "fan-video" that includes a clip of most recent Shontel Brown commercial... BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES ACTUAL VIDEO CLIPS of the horrible things Nina-T has said. Her own words, coming from her own mouth. Listen!

Link to tweet

Does @ninaturner thinks we have memory Loss? She wanted Trump Re-elected! ...

[Cracklin Charlie]

1. More, please!

I get bad vibes from this candidate.

[MontanaMama]

2. I listened to Rep Jayapal

singe Turner’s praises in an interview with Jane Fonda in Fire Drill Friday. Jayapal was hoping Turner would be elected and join the Congressional Progressive Caucus. SMDH.

[NurseJackie]

7. Why would ANYONE endorse her? I have ZERO respect for any politician (or celebrity)...

Why would ANYONE endorse her? I'll be completely frank and straightforward here... I have ZERO respect for any politician (or celebrity) who promotes or endorses Nina-T. Anyone who endorses that woman is giving their approval for the venom and lies that she spews. It's an endorsement of outright hostility and contempt for the Democratic party, and Democratic leadership, AND the Biden/Harris administration.

It's not as though we don't know who she is or what she's up to. After all...

-- she supported Jill Fucking Stein when Hillary ran against Trump.
-- she voted for Jill Fucking Stein in the same election.
-- she claims she was asked to be Jill Fucking Stein's running-mate.
-- she refused to support Joe Biden (against Trump).
-- she compared to Joe Biden as a "bowl of shit". "Choosing between Biden and Trump was like have a bowl of shit in front of you"
-- she is grudgingly running "as-a" Democrat because her "People's Party" couldn't get on the ballot.
-- she promotes her (so-called) "People's Party" over the Democratic Party
-- she badmouths Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
-- she shows only contempt for the Democratic party
-- she wanted Trump to win! "[if we must choose] the difference of the lesser of the two evils we might just go with straight-up evil!"

... it's all TOTAL BS! All I'm saying is that voters deserve a candidate who will do his/her best to promote and grow the Democratic party and who will be loyal to the party, and who will work FOR (not against) the Biden Administration.

[Bev54]

13. Most of the progressives have endorsed her

including AOC and Katie Porter. I wrote to Katie Porter to ask if it were true she endorsed her and why. I got a reply that yes she endorsed her but no reason why. I think people should continue to harp on these people as well and let them know their endorsements are misplaced and send them this video.

[NurseJackie]

16. Does this mean they agree with Nina-T when she says...

Does this mean they agree with Nina-T when she says...

-- "Choosing between Biden and Trump was like have a bowl of shit in front of you"
-- "[if we must choose] the difference of the lesser of the two evils we might just go with straight-up evil!"
-- And saying the Joe was just "checking off boxes" when he chose Kamala Harris

Damn! She's a bitter woman who still holds a grudge for the results of the 2016 and 2020 primaries. Scorched-earth, much?

All I'm trying to say is that she's clearly NOT a supporter of the Biden Harris administration. She holds nothing but contempt for the Democratic party. She's only running "as a" Democrat because her own "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to actually be on the Ohio Ballot.

We deserve better. We deserve Shontel Brown!

[Roy Rolling]

21. Endorsements

Some politicians are betting that pandering to the extreme view-voters are a demographic they wish to covet.

Fair warning, Republicans dod that with the deplorables and where did it get them? Now they are the controlled by deplorables.

[question everything]

47. A bitter, angry person

This is the first time that I actually observed her in person. Yes, a true image of the angry left in our midst

Joe Biden became our candidate because he stood out among the angry candidates. With quiet dignity he would finish each speech, and continuing today: This is America! There is nothing wrong with America that we cannot fix.

I was reminded of this stark difference with the clip that you posted in the OP. An angry person versus a quite, dignified Brown. We need more of the latter and less of the former.

[Bev54]

68. She is not a true democrat

[Happy Hoosier]

73. That is very disappointing

I saw Katie Porter as a rising star.

This calls her judgement into question.

[Chili]

30. thank you for that

[Historic NY]

29. They run with a (D) because they can't get elected with any small letter.

They don't change their spots....

[MisterNiceKitty]

46. There's an article in Yahoo Life about the time Fonda met Putin

"When asked whether she'd ever met a dictator, Fonda pointed at the image of Vlad and said, "This guy was our travel guide. … We landed at the airport, and the person who picked us up and drove us around was Vladimir Putin. He was the travel guide. He was like our interpreter at the time."

In the early '90s, Putin had resigned from the KGB and taken a position as head of the Committee for External Relations in the Leningrad mayor's office, so it makes sense that he'd be the apparatchik tasked with squiring the celebrity couple around town.

Fonda says Putin's focus and ruthless nature was apparent even then. "His wife had gotten sick, and she was heading to the hospital. He told us that in the car and Ted said, 'You have to go to the hospital. You have to go to the hospital to check on your wife,' and he wouldn't. Vladimir Putin wouldn't do it. He stayed with us."

Cohen, stirring the pot, shot back, "He probably poisoned her, knowing him."

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/jane-fonda-admits-her-secret-184617836.html

Also from the piece:

"Fonda didn't bring it up, but wouldn't an ace intelligence officer be assigned to watch over a pair of potential loose cannons? Turner was just as controversial as his wife, although for far less unpatriotic reasons. Jane never had a problem speaking what she thought was truth to power, and here they were, running loose in what had been a closed society."

[Cha]

59. I'll take the Cleveland Clergy

over that.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215633905

[Cousin Dupree]

4. I live in northeast Ohio. We are being inundated with nasty political tv ads for this race.

It’s a huge turn-off.

[True Blue American]

31. Do not turn off

Shontel Brown! Do turn off Nina Turner! She IS the S*** show she is accusing others of being.

[question everything]

5. I have been wondering why so many here support her

and I am concluding that most, if not all, supported Sanders to the end in both 2016 and 2020. So I think that this is their way to strengthen the leftist minority in Congress; they do not think, perhaps do not care, that her presence can cause the loss of the House and the White House.

[NurseJackie]

8. Your conclusions are correct.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

11. I am wondering the same thing

Campaigning for and voting for Jill Stein is a big issue. Ina Turner did try to re-elect TFG during the 2020 campaign

[NurseJackie]

17. Trump. She advocated re-electing Trump because she was bitter about Biden winning the nomination...

Trump. She advocated re-electing Trump because she was bitter about Biden winning the nomination instead of Bernie. Here's what she said: "[if we must choose] the difference of the lesser of the two evils we might just go with straight-up evil!"

[Historic NY]

32. Now she can have sprinkles on her bowl of sh-t .

We don't need her in DC .

[NurseJackie]

41. Ha! That's a great reference! I remember that meme!

We don't need her in DC .

She's done. Her association with Jill Fucking Stein and her refusal to support Biden against Trump (and the "bowl of shit" comments, and the "lesser of two evils" comments)... well... it all pretty much speaks for itself, doesn't it.

[MrsCoffee]

26. 100 percent.

[Chili]

33. Exactly. nt.

[mopinko]

6. she's a russian asset.

imho

[pandr32]

35. Perhaps

She did support Jill Stein.

[mopinko]

39. they did work the left, too.

there have been posts here about the bernie trolls who swayed a lot of sore losers on our side.
the one orange lover i know took this route.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

9. I think she's hoping for low voter turnout in the primary.

I bet a high turnout would favor Brown, since she's actually a Democrat.

[Nikossitti]

10. My district

I’m all in for Shontel. I vote for Democrats, and Turner is not one. Period.

[NurseJackie]

19. She's only running "as a" Democrat because her "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to be...

She's only running "as a" Democrat because her "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to be on the ballot in Ohio. This is just a means to an end. (It's treacherous. She has zero intention of supporting or growing or being loyal to the Democratic party. She wants "revenge".)

After all, Nina-T is the same woman who endorsed Jill Fucking Stine instead of Hillary (in the general election against Trump). She was also asked by Stein to be her VP running mate. She's part of a plethora of guilty individuals who took part in kneecapping Hillary's campaign and strengthening Trump's campaign.

[SheltieLover]

38. This!👆

Why is this person allowed to run as a Dem?

Maybe it's time to change things to prevent this.

[question everything]

49. Why was Sanders allowed to run as a Democrat?

This is the precedent that he sat.

He is not a Democrat, has never been a Democrat - except when manipulating the Vermont Senatorial primaries. He has actively campaigned against Democratic candidates, including wishing for someone to primary challenge Obama in 2012.

Yes, it is time to change this, before it is too late.

And Sanders did very well on these pages which is why I theorized, above, that many of these die hard supporters have transferred their wish to his disciple.

[SheltieLover]

53. I couldn't agree more!

To run as a member of the Democratic party, one should have to BE a Democrat!

[Chili]

34. I'm with you, neighbor

[AZ8theist]

12. There's only ONE bowl of shit in this equation...

..and it's Nina Turner.

[awesomerwb1]

14. She's a despicable opportunist

This woman would run under the party of the devil if she could get elected so she could bash anyone she deemed “establishment”. She’s a snake.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

15. Here is Nina campaigning for Jill Stein

Link to tweet

[lark]

18. I wouldn't vote for Nina Turner or Susan Sarandon if I was paid.

They put perfection over the good and there never will be anyone perfect enough who could ever be elected. They helped elect drumpf so they are unsupportable!

Go Shontel Brown!

[LizBeth]

20. She sent a money request to me. I sent a reply back no way in hell I would give her $

and take me off the damn list. Don't know if anyone read it but felt good as hell hitting send.

[Chili]

36. I got those too.

I filed mine. And you know where.

[mcar]

22. She decries her opponent taking PAC money

While she takes PAC money.

[George II]

23. Her campaign has a van driving around the District saying this:

[GoCubsGo]

24. Nina Turner is an opportunist.

She supports whatever is politically expedient for HER. Nothing but a left-leaning version of Nikki Haley. Probably just as corrupt, too.

[George II]

25. She also endorsed this woman, a pro-Trump QAnon conspiracist, for public office:

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Her Twitter biography: "Alliance against Democrat Establishment Hypocrisy", and one of the graphics in a tweet of hers says:

Trump is elected as POTUS and is getting rid of the Establishment that Bernie was talking about. The problem with Gov is the Status Quo.

#NoMoreStatusQuo #DraineThe Swamp #FeelThe Bern #MAGA

#IStandWithTrump #DontBlameMeIVotedBernie #FeelThe Bern #MAGA

Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders have more in common than you might expect.

@_SemaHernandez_

Link to tweet

[Chili]

37. that is...

...as foul as it gets. Good grief. I have to question anyone who would actually support her, knowing that she will intentionally destroy any party unity and vote against bills we need to get passed just out of spite.

[Fiendish Thingy]

27. Hopefully there will be a televised debate before the primary. Nt

[intheflow]

28. I did not hear her say she wanted Trump re-elected.

She said the voters were given two corporatist candidates by the party, which is true. Business IS happier with Biden rather than Sanders, as they were with Clinton in 2016. You may not like Turner, you may not like how she says things, but that’s no reason to willfully misrepresent what she actually said. That’s what the right does.

[mopinko]

40. i dont know about you, but

i know bothsiderism when i see it, and i know why people do it.

[intheflow]

54. Fair enough.

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Thanks for the perspective. I can see how you might think that and maybe I might have been doing that subconsciously in my attempt to be diplomatic. I still think Nina Turner's anger is legit, and her passion and voice is needed to continue moving the Democratic party further left (after decades of moving center/right). I don't agree with her that there's no difference between Trump and Biden, and I can guarandamntee it that she didn't vote for Trump either time. She's a Black woman with opinions to the left of AOC, and so many Democrats are just dying to trash her. Trash Candice Owens' politics all you want, but when I see rabid threads about Turner, it feels like the Clinton/Sanders wars never ended, when to me, they were pointless to begin with since Clinton and Sanders voted the same way something like 98% of the time, and also kinda racist.

[NurseJackie]

60. That percentage is incorrect. It's a myth.

since Clinton and Sanders voted the same way something like 98% of the time.

That percentage is incorrect. It's a myth.

She's a Black woman with opinions to the left of AOC, and so many Democrats are just dying to trash her.

So comparing Joe Biden to a BOWL OF SHIT is okay with you? That's "just an opinion to the left of AOC"??

and I can guarandamntee it that she didn't vote for Trump either time.

Not voting for the Democrat is mathematically the same as voting for Trump. If the vote did not DIRECTLY count toward Biden (or Hillary) then Trump benefitted because of it.

but when I see rabid threads about Turner, it feels like the Clinton/Sanders wars never ended,

How funny is that? In reality it's the exact opposite. The reason Nina-T hates Democrats and the Democratic party (and the reason she supported Jill Fucking Stein; and the reason she has her own "People's Party&quot is because she's still in a snippy snit about the fact that Bernie wasn't chosen to be the party's nominee. Every indication is that she believes that it was "stolen" from him and that he was entitled to the nomination. THAT is why she isn't on-board with Biden/Harris. THAT is why she would not support Biden/Harris. THAT is why she compared him to a BOWL OF SHIT (even after he was the nominee). THAT is why she indicated a preference for "full-on evil" Trump. THAT is why she characterized Biden's choice of Harris as simply "checking a box".

So, no, you're wrong... it's not our response to her that perpetuates the "Clinton/Sanders war" ... instead it's what SHE is doing, and what SHE is saying and how SHE is behaving. Not us. Loyal Democrats should not be expected to remain silent while SHE perpetuates these myths and lies, and while SHE creates division, resentment and distrust.

All I'm saying is that Nina-T does not deserve the free pass that you're willing to give her. She's not benign.

[Chili]

42. really?

Please explain how this can be misinterpreted:

"[if we must choose] the difference of the lesser of the two evils we might just go with straight-up evil!"

[mcar]

50. She said "might just go for full-on evil"

meaning vote for Trump over Biden. She said it.

[NurseJackie]

52. Ridiculous! Joe Biden is NOT a "corporatist candidate".

She said the voters were given two corporatist candidates by the party, which is true.

Ridiculous! Joe Biden is NOT a "corporatist candidate".

that’s no reason to willfully misrepresent what she actually said.

Nonsense! Nobody is doing that. Her treacherous words speak for themselves. It's right there on tape.

[bfealk]

43. Nina Turner for Congress

Nina is a true progressive. Please stop voting for moderates.

[NurseJackie]

44. What's "progressive" about supporting Jill Fucking Stein instead of Hillary (against Trump)...

and, what's "progressive" about declaring "[if we must choose] the difference of the lesser of the two evils we might just go with straight-up evil!" She obviously viewed Biden as "evil" and this was CLEARLY an endorsement of Trump over Biden.

How can anyone justify that? Nina-T was bitter that Bernie didn't win in 2016 (so she would not support the Democratic nominee, Hillary.) She was bitter and angry that Bernie didn't win in 2020 (so, again, she would not support the Democratic nominee, Joe Biden.)

Everyone knows it. The only reason she's running "as a" Democrat right now is because her own "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to be on the Ohio ballot. She resents having to run "as a" Democrat and has zero intention of remaining a Democrat.

Nina is a true progressive.

No she's not. She doesn't want to work with the Biden/Harris administration. Shontel Brown does. Shontel Brown is not in this for her own fame and fortune. She's not running to exact some sort of "revenge" or "payback" against the Democratic party.

[dsc]

48. She conspired to take away career status from teachers in Cleveland

I guess some unions she is willing to see out. Why should we trust that other unions won't be next?

[mcar]

51. I'll vote for whom I please, thanks all the same

and that is not phonies like Turner.

[Demsrule86]

63. Perhaps when hell freezes over until then just no. I live in her district...voting Saturday and

not for Nina. Nina is not a Democrat. And she drives a bus attacking Democrats as corporate and yet where did her money come from?

[YoshidaYui]

45. Does she even know?

That reinstatement is not a thing in the US government. I’m a citizen and I know that.

[Trueblue1968]

55. these horrible statements she made is why lots of folks hate her

[NurseJackie]

58. I never liked her. From the first time I saw her (even BEFORE she showed her true self.)

these horrible statements she made is why lots of folks hate her

I never liked her. From the first time I saw her (even BEFORE she showed her true self.) But, you're correct... she's no friend of the Democratic Party and no friend to Democrats. She's divisive and creates distrust. She would be an anchor that drags us down. We need a team player and she's proven dozens of times that "team player" and "unity" and "loyalty" doesn't apply to her whenever it's about the Democratic Party, or Democratic leadership, or the Biden/Harris administration.

[Blue_true]

67. I have always saw her as being loud, empty on policy substance and really angry.

Shontel Brown strikes me as a thoughtful person who can get past ego to make effective public interest policy.

[NurseJackie]

70. I've generally found that most loud and obnoxious and overbearing people I've met...

... are compensating for other intellectual or emotional deficiencies. Many have lived their entire lives with the philosophy of "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with BS".

[Blue_true]

75. Sort of similar to what I have seen.

When push came to shove, the loud people have always come up short. Experience has taught me to rely on quieter, more thoughtful people if I am forced to make a choice.

[Bleacher Creature]

56. She. Is. Not. A. Democrat.

[Trueblue1968]

61. i agree with you. I dunno what she is though but I.DO.NOT. LIKE, HER.

[NurseJackie]

64. She's only running "as a" Democrat because her "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to be...

She's only running "as a" Democrat because her "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to be on the ballot in Ohio. She's using the party. A means to an end. Fame and fortune are more important than any loyalty to the Democratic party or our Democratic leadership. --- She voted for JILL FUCKING STEIN! She compared Biden to A BOWL OF SHIT!

[NYC Liberal]

65. Sounds strikingly like someone else we've heard from a lot over the past 5-6 years...

[NurseJackie]

66. Surprise, surprise, surprise!

[Cha]

57. She must.. Rt TY!

[Nixie]

62. She only won years ago because the Clintons' helped her.

What a phony.

[NurseJackie]

72. Totally.

[Scurrilous]

69. K&R

[betsuni]

71. K&R

[LiberalFighter]

74. I would never support Turner. She doesn't work well with others.