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tblue37

(65,227 posts)
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:47 AM Jul 2021

Dogs are born expecting humans to communicate with them.



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Dogs “are born with this readiness to understand that a person would be trying to communicate with them. Wolves didn't have that tendency. It wouldn't really occur to them that a person would be trying to help them.”
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Dogs are born expecting humans to communicate with them. (Original Post) tblue37 Jul 2021 OP
Can't imagine living w/o a dog. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #1
Yup.... I can all but feel a surge of oxytocin every time I even think of my sweet pup hlthe2b Jul 2021 #5
Isn't it wonderful that your dog is the best dog on earth. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #9
That's Amazing Beetwasher. Jul 2021 #2
Probably because dogs FoxNewsSucks Jul 2021 #3
There's a marvelous book, "A Dog in the Cave," about our coevolution with dogs. tblue37 Jul 2021 #10
It's just different selective pressures misanthrope Jul 2021 #21
They can also help with out being asked. marie999 Jul 2021 #4
One of our dogs would alert us when our very old dog was about to have a seizure. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #32
Dogs figured out JustAnotherGen Jul 2021 #6
dogs seem like NJCher Jul 2021 #12
I've long suspected UnderThisLaw Jul 2021 #23
Domestication is what they did to us. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #33
Amen JustAnotherGen Jul 2021 #43
Dogs are the most amazing creatures on Earth SheltieLover Jul 2021 #7
☝🏼This! Scottie Mom Jul 2021 #13
Same here, Scottie Mom! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #14
Back at cha! Scottie Mom Jul 2021 #15
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #18
Nothing brings me more joy... LiberatedUSA Jul 2021 #24
I love them all, too! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #25
Yes! róisín_dubh Jul 2021 #42
Dogs are the most wonderful, amazing creatures. smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #8
Same to the max!!!! EOM Scottie Mom Jul 2021 #17
+1,000! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #19
Hi Sheltie Lover! smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author SheltieLover Jul 2021 #29
Wow! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #30
Absolutely 🐶 ❤ Raine Jul 2021 #38
This sounds like a scientific study. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #11
Cats are born tuned to hearing a can opener. SoonerPride Jul 2021 #16
Lol MoonRiver Jul 2021 #20
Yep. nt tblue37 Jul 2021 #22
Dogs have owners, cats have staff. roamer65 Jul 2021 #26
Dogs think they're people. Cats think they're GOD. lindysalsagal Jul 2021 #27
Humans have been breeding dogs for the characteristics WE want ever since the first wolf pup ... Hekate Jul 2021 #31
But what about cats? herding cats Jul 2021 #34
As the saying goes: "Once cats were worshipped as gods. They have not forgotten this." Hekate Jul 2021 #36
On the other hand: ExTex Jul 2021 #35
LOL, cute! 😄 👍nt Raine Jul 2021 #39
"Dogs are the only animal on earth born with a love of humans in its DNA" Skittles Jul 2021 #37
It's almost like 40,000 years of selective breeding caused some major changes in behaviour! Spider Jerusalem Jul 2021 #40
I'm partial to the theory that dogs are wolves with Williams Syndrome nuxvomica Jul 2021 #41

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
1. Can't imagine living w/o a dog.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:53 AM
Jul 2021

I guess they can’t imagine living without us.

Adopt a rescue today!!!

hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
5. Yup.... I can all but feel a surge of oxytocin every time I even think of my sweet pup
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 12:15 PM
Jul 2021


Every time my dog wags her tail I am calmed and happy.

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
9. Isn't it wonderful that your dog is the best dog on earth.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jul 2021

And his dog is the best dog on earth.
Her dog is too.

Yet, MY dog is also the best dog in the world!!!

Wish hoomans were like that.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,417 posts)
3. Probably because dogs
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:59 AM
Jul 2021

are descended from the wolves which did interact with humans and continued to interact. They also developed a muscle in their eyebrows that wolves lack which lets their face be more expressive.

So it's just different instincts from what wild wolves have.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
10. There's a marvelous book, "A Dog in the Cave," about our coevolution with dogs.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 02:00 PM
Jul 2021

Its subtitle is " The Wolves Who Made Us Human. "

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
21. It's just different selective pressures
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:14 PM
Jul 2021

Sourced from greater and more successful human interaction. Wolves were already social animals so the leap wasn't that far.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
4. They can also help with out being asked.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 12:04 PM
Jul 2021

I have sleep apnea and use a bilevel CPAP. Sometimes while asleep I take my mask off and my yellow lab licks my face to wake me up.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
32. One of our dogs would alert us when our very old dog was about to have a seizure.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:11 PM
Jul 2021

She was very helpful!

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
6. Dogs figured out
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 12:30 PM
Jul 2021

If I'm cute and I help them (humans) I can get them to do shit for me. Like, access to fire, A safe place to sleep, good food.

They are the ultimate Master Manipulators.

UnderThisLaw

(318 posts)
23. I've long suspected
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 04:01 PM
Jul 2021

that “domestication” is only a word humans came up with to describe dogs deciding they were moving in with us

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
43. Amen
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 02:34 PM
Jul 2021

I'm not hiding it.

My husband and I are allowed to live in our Maltese's house, sleep in his bed, spend our money on his food, wash his face, wipe his butt . . .

He's like Louis the XIV but better looking.

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
15. Back at cha!
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 02:54 PM
Jul 2021

Dogs...old, new, big, small and all in betweens!

💕♥️💝💞💜💓💗❣️💕💘

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
18. Absolutely!
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 02:57 PM
Jul 2021

I love the way they stare at us, intently transmitting teleopathic messages when they want or need something!

And they explode in joy when we finally "get it."

There is so much about dogs that I could go on & on for days...

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
24. Nothing brings me more joy...
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 07:10 PM
Jul 2021

...than Pekingese, but I love all dogs. I usually prefer dog company over human.

róisín_dubh

(11,791 posts)
42. Yes!
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:51 AM
Jul 2021

For the first time in nearly my entire 43 year existence, I don't have a dog. My beloved senior adoptee (I adopted him when he was of indeterminate age...probably 12) passed away in April.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. Dogs are the most wonderful, amazing creatures.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jul 2021

They make me happier than anything else in the world.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
28. Hi Sheltie Lover!
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 10:23 PM
Jul 2021

I didn't see that you posted almost the same thing before me, but then again, it can't be said enough, right?

I always say that "Dog" is "God" spelled backward and even though I am not religious, my definition of god would be the same as my definition of dog, which is pure, unconditional love.

Ours for them as well as theirs for us. I almost think it's more important that we feel so much unconditional love for them because it raises our spirits to a higher level. It helps us to know what pure love is.

Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #28)

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
30. Wow!
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 10:47 PM
Jul 2021

You've managed to articulate exactly how I feel.

They are pure love. 🐶

And the energetic signature of the species name says it all.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
38. Absolutely 🐶 ❤
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:13 AM
Jul 2021

though my cat 🐱 thinks he's pretty wonderful and amazing too, haha! ❤ 🥰

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
26. Dogs have owners, cats have staff.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 07:17 PM
Jul 2021

I’m staff.


As far as dogs and humans, natural selection at work.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
31. Humans have been breeding dogs for the characteristics WE want ever since the first wolf pup ...
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:08 PM
Jul 2021

… licked a bone and didn’t run away. Throughout history, litters have been culled of pups that didn’t meet humans’ needs or standards, and that includes everything from submission to humans to protecting our oh-so-edible flocks from predators to even having facial expressions.

Modern humans who infantilize and anthropomorphize their pets too much have no idea what a rigorous process that was for our distant ancestors. Ancient humans had no use for a wild animal inside their cave that might kill and eat their own children, so that kind of aggression had to be bred out first thing.

Neil deGrasse Tyson’s narrative on how it might have been/ how it probably was is fascinating. If I find it on YouTube I’ll add the link on edit.

ETA:






herding cats

(19,558 posts)
34. But what about cats?
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:19 PM
Jul 2021

They're still basically aloof assholes (who I love) which make us crawl naked on our bellies over broken glass to be loved by them.

I currently have one Siamese queen who is convinced she's a god. I'm not saying she's wrong, either. I do keep bowing to her wishes and basically worshiping her on her terms. 🤣

All kidding aside, you're 100% correct on how we landed where we are with our pets.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
36. As the saying goes: "Once cats were worshipped as gods. They have not forgotten this."
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:00 AM
Jul 2021
(I think it was singer/songwriter Rosalie Sorrells who said that)

Mind you, I do like cats, and am rather sorry we can’t have any as long as we live here — I frequently mention our coyote problem, and there’s some bobcats around too. I am not into supplying those critters with live snacks.

Cats are fascinating and their kittens are adorable, but at heart most of them are still independent hunters, and I’m pretty sure that’s how they came into our homes and barns. The biggest threat to human food supplies in the stored grain category has always been mice and rats (though they will eat and despoil anything). That rodent-hunting part of cat-nature ensured we would keep them around, and something about their personalities appeals to a lot of people as well. They are SO not dogs!

Skittles

(153,111 posts)
37. "Dogs are the only animal on earth born with a love of humans in its DNA"
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:13 AM
Jul 2021

I think that says it better.

nuxvomica

(12,409 posts)
41. I'm partial to the theory that dogs are wolves with Williams Syndrome
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:43 AM
Jul 2021
Even the most socialized, friendly wolf is cold company compared with a Labrador retriever in full face-licking mode.

But what produces this social exuberance? A team of researchers reported on Wednesday in the journal Science Advances that the friendliness of dogs may share a genetic basis with a human disease called Williams-Beuren syndrome.

Humans with this developmental delay, caused by mutations in a region of genes, show a variety of symptoms that include intense and indiscriminate sociability.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/science/dogs-genes-sociability.html

Having grown up with my brother, who has the syndrome, I can attest that his sociability level is like that of a puppy. He will strike up a conversation with anyone, make shamelessly absurd jokes or start singing a song about his new friend. Even normally sour people react with smiles. Despite his "disability", he understands how horrible TFG is and had no resistance to getting vaccinated. He watches news shows a lot and accepts the advice of people he instinctively recognizes as nice and friendly, like Fauci, and ignores people like TFG, who seem to be in a bad mood all the time. It's too bad other so-called "normal" people can't be so good at judging character.
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