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FarPoint

(12,309 posts)
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:40 PM Jul 2021

I am looking for an accurate death toll directly from a covid-19 vaccine...

The tRumpsters and anti vaxers are running around claiming many deaths from the vaccine for covid-19...using the VAERS Data base...I say it is inaccurate...these are deaths for individuals who had had a covid-19 vaccine but not identified as a direct causality of the death...Meaning, they could of been fully vaccinated and died from a snake bit...

So, I would love to find concrete tracking data for deaths directly related to a covid-19 vaccine....

Example of miss-information folks are believing...

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This may help, of course more weeks have passed by since this report.....VAERS COVID Vaccine Data
(Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System)
438,440 Reports
Through July 7, 2021
9,048 DEATHS
26,818 HOSPITALIZATIONS
56,970 URGENT CARE
80,269 OFFICE VISITS
2,152 ANAPHYLAXIS
2,486 BELL'S PALSY
985 Miscarriages
3,324 Heart Attacks
2,200 Myocarditis/Pericarditis
7,463 Disabled
2,226 Thrombocytopenia/Low Platelet
7,823 Life Threatening
19,105 Severe Allergic Reaction
5,118 Tinnitus
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I am looking for an accurate death toll directly from a covid-19 vaccine... (Original Post) FarPoint Jul 2021 OP
Why legitimize it by doing anything besides shaking your head and saying, "OK, fine. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #1
As a Nurse ...I can't ignore the misinformation... FarPoint Jul 2021 #3
You can't argue with the insane... Ohio Joe Jul 2021 #2
You are knowingly absolutely correct.... FarPoint Jul 2021 #5
I understand, I have a brother that is a cultist... Ohio Joe Jul 2021 #8
Anyone in the world can make a VAERS report - Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #4
That is great information... FarPoint Jul 2021 #6
The only one that has been linked directly with the vaccine is Thrombocytopenia/Low Platelet Klaralven Jul 2021 #7
That is what I found... FarPoint Jul 2021 #10
9,000 out of 100 and what million IbogaProject Jul 2021 #9
Thank you every one! FarPoint Jul 2021 #11
The UK kept track of that kind of data Jarqui Jul 2021 #12
100% Effete Snob Jul 2021 #13
That is true... FarPoint Jul 2021 #14

Scrivener7

(50,934 posts)
1. Why legitimize it by doing anything besides shaking your head and saying, "OK, fine.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:44 PM
Jul 2021

Here comes Delta. Been nice knowing you. Bye."

OR you could say, "Did you know that Fox News requires all of its employees to be vaccinated?"

FarPoint

(12,309 posts)
3. As a Nurse ...I can't ignore the misinformation...
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jul 2021

I do love this line you gave...OR you could say, "Did you know that Fox News requires all of its employees to be vaccinated?"

I'll be using that one.

Ohio Joe

(21,748 posts)
2. You can't argue with the insane...
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:47 PM
Jul 2021

Well... You can but it won't get you anywhere. You could sit down and show them each death certificate and they would deny it. You could have them talk with each coroner and mortician, and they would still deny it. They know full well what VAERS is yet they still hold it up as gospel.

There is no way on earth you can convince them of anything except what dear leader tells them to think.

FarPoint

(12,309 posts)
5. You are knowingly absolutely correct....
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:54 PM
Jul 2021

It just breaks my heart they are out there spreading this faux information...many believe it and will suffer or inflict illness onto others when they get infected...

Ms. Toad

(34,055 posts)
4. Anyone in the world can make a VAERS report -
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jul 2021

it does not mean there is a causal link.

I reported one for triggering migraines. I firmly believe that it triggered migraines (that have not left nearly 4 months later), since I consistently had migraines from age 4 through age 55 (with about 18 months off when I was pregnant and nursing). Then they stopped, cold turkey, when menopause hit. Haven't had a one since then, until 2 weeks after my first vaccine - and I had a 2-3 week period when my activities were severely limited in a way they haven't been since I was a teen (partly because my go-to medicines now cause high blood pressure and tinnitis so I've had to under-medicate).

BUT - the mere fact that I reported it (firmly believe it to be so, and have spoken with others who have had similar recurrences of long-dormant migraines) does not mean the vaccine caused it.

As far as deaths - the last I checked there were no confirmed deaths caused by the vaccine.

Here's the official word from the CDC (as of July 13):

A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

In other words, the only deaths indirectly, plausibly (not even proven), caused by vaccines are from the rare platelet disorder associated with the J&J vaccine.

FarPoint

(12,309 posts)
6. That is great information...
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:56 PM
Jul 2021

Overall what I have been report to these drones...I appreciate your links for helping me focus.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
7. The only one that has been linked directly with the vaccine is Thrombocytopenia/Low Platelet
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 01:04 PM
Jul 2021

This is linked to the J&J vaccine in younger women. It is also linked to Astra Zeneca, but that is not used in the US.

It is a serious condition, usually requiring hospitalization. Early on the mortality may have been as high as 50% of cases, but diagnoses and treatment have improved. Younger women would be better off with Pfizer or Moderna. Furthermore, some of the cases would have happened in the absence of vaccination.

Thrombosis With Thrombocytopenia Syndrome After COVID-19 Vaccination

https://www.hematologyandoncology.net/archives/july-2021/thrombosis-with-thrombocytopenia-syndrome-after-covid-19-vaccination/

IbogaProject

(2,800 posts)
9. 9,000 out of 100 and what million
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jul 2021

9,000 out of 100 and what million?
Lets say 135 million so 1 in 15,000 so what is the usual death rate for that age cohort over a similar time frame? And yes some amount of those are truly unrelated.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
12. The UK kept track of that kind of data
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jul 2021

Out of the millions of vaccines given, they tracked adverse reactions.

This link did not get it for me quickly
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

For each vaccine, they had an enormous PDF with summaries of what the reactions were, how many died, etc.

They didn't have much on Moderna. It was mainly Pfizer and AstraZeneca.

I could not find the link to these PDF quickly.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
13. 100%
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jul 2021

Every single person who gets the vaccine will die. I guarantee you that.

Just like every person who breathes air. All of them die too.

In fact, there is no recorded case in the medical literature of a person who breathed air, who did not eventually die. That’s how bad it is.

But the Big Air lobbyists never admit this proven fact.
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