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lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 06:00 PM Jul 2021

Background on the Anthony Fauci - Rand Paul confrontation during hearings today.

The article from FactCheck.org sets out the basic facts of the controversy and links to the papers mentioned. The fact check article was initially published on May 21 and updated on July 1.



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Background on the Anthony Fauci - Rand Paul confrontation during hearings today. (Original Post) lapucelle Jul 2021 OP
I'm really surprised senator Paul multigraincracker Jul 2021 #1
Paul was going to mention those things gratuitous Jul 2021 #5
Nicely played malaise Jul 2021 #9
Humans and chimps share 98.8% of the same DNA Phoenix61 Jul 2021 #2
Yet Humans have 23 pair and all Chimps have 24 pair of chromosomes. padfun Jul 2021 #6
Actually it can. A pair fused so humans have 23. Phoenix61 Jul 2021 #7
Yes, the second and third of the apes have fused into the second human one. padfun Jul 2021 #8
There are other examples of fused or variable chromosomes throughout nature. myccrider Jul 2021 #10
I'll check those links out. Thanks. padfun Jul 2021 #13
An Excellent, Reliable Presentation, Ma'am The Magistrate Jul 2021 #3
Sir, thank you, Sir! lapucelle Jul 2021 #4
This is playing on most of the Internet as Paul having owned Fauci. Ron Green Jul 2021 #11
Which "most" of the internet would that be? lapucelle Jul 2021 #12
My read (and view of the video) was on the NPR site. Ron Green Jul 2021 #14

multigraincracker

(32,641 posts)
1. I'm really surprised senator Paul
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 06:16 PM
Jul 2021

didn't work in the U.S. going on the gold standard and encourage citizens to buy bullion from his daddy in this exchange.

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
2. Humans and chimps share 98.8% of the same DNA
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 06:18 PM
Jul 2021

“Researchers in China — including at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — have said the virus shares 96% of its genome with a bat virus collected by researchers in 2013 in Yunnan Province, China.”
The virus at the lab is more distantly related to Covid 19 than we are to chimps.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
6. Yet Humans have 23 pair and all Chimps have 24 pair of chromosomes.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 07:37 PM
Jul 2021

So that number can't be right. It was the going thing well before the genome was finished for both Homo Sapiens and Pan Troglodytes.
The latest number I heard was 96% which would made the separation about 10 million years instead of the usual 5-6 that was given in years past.

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
7. Actually it can. A pair fused so humans have 23.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:15 AM
Jul 2021

If you have a source please share because I’ve not been able to find anything that says 96%.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
8. Yes, the second and third of the apes have fused into the second human one.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:31 AM
Jul 2021

And it is the only case in nature where this has happened. (Supposedly from what I've read, but maybe not.)

So are we a genetically altered species? Is there any truth to the Story of Enki?

Here is a link to the 96 percent but you can find anywhere from 95 to 98.8 depending...
https://www.genome.gov/15515096/2005-release-new-genome-comparison-finds-chimps-humans-very-similar-at-dna-level

Edit: Even though this one says 96 it still shows the separation point at 6 million years ago.

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
3. An Excellent, Reliable Presentation, Ma'am
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 06:19 PM
Jul 2021

Thank you for bringing this forward.

It leaves no doubt Rand Paul is an ignoramus, looking for something or someone to serve as a focus for hatred in order to divert attention from his Fuehrer's derelictions and failures, which will cost well over a million of our people their lives before the matter plays out to its end.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
11. This is playing on most of the Internet as Paul having owned Fauci.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:01 PM
Jul 2021

Almost all the comments I could see on NPR’s posting of this exchange were about the video having been “severely edited” by NPR to save Fauci.

The FUD is strong in this country.

lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
12. Which "most" of the internet would that be?
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jul 2021

The article I linked to sets out the basic parameters of the issues involved. The excerpt I posted is from C-SPAN. It's continuous and unedited.

I'm just one person, but it doesn't look to me like Dr. Fauci needs to be "saved" by creative editing. That said, I'm not a fan of one-sided edits.

Here's a link to Memeorandum's aggregate of coverage of the confrontation. There's news coverage from a variety of outlets, as well as left-leaning, moderate, and right-wing perspective.

https://www.memeorandum.com/210720/p135#a210720p135

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
14. My read (and view of the video) was on the NPR site.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 05:27 PM
Jul 2021

I was astounded to see almost all the responses supporting Paul and disparaging Fauci.

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