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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,867 posts)
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 07:40 PM Jul 2021

Israeli Ambassador Asks 35 U.S. States to Take Action Against Ben & Jerry's for Ending Sales

Gilad Erdan, Israel's ambassador to the U.S., asked 35 states with laws in place against anti-Israel boycott activity to take action against Ben & Jerry's on Tuesday, the Associated Press reported.

The company announced Monday that it would stop selling ice cream in Israel's occupied West Bank and contested east Jerusalem once its license agreement expires next year, claiming that it was "​inconsistent with our values for Ben & Jerry's ice cream to be sold in the Occupied Palestinian Territory."

Erdan penned letters to the governors of the 35 states, asking them for "rapid and determined" action in response to "such discriminatory and antisemitic actions."

"We must stand united and send an unequivocal message that this will not be tolerated," he wrote.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israeli-ambassador-asks-35-us-states-to-take-action-against-ben-and-jerrys-for-ending-sales/ar-AAMn71U

I'm sure they'll get right on it.

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Israeli Ambassador Asks 35 U.S. States to Take Action Against Ben & Jerry's for Ending Sales (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 OP
Who The Fuck Does He Think He Is, Sir? The Magistrate Jul 2021 #1
+1. Some asshole who thinks he rules the world dalton99a Jul 2021 #16
That reminds me, I've got some primo fresh peaches, and they go well with ice cream! hatrack Jul 2021 #2
Not sure how depriving W Bank Palestinians of their ice cream will help them.. EX500rider Jul 2021 #3
I would bet it is mostly bought by settlers. karynnj Jul 2021 #9
Palestinians don't like ice cream?? nt EX500rider Jul 2021 #12
Or don't have the money for imported luxury items ? (n/t) Retrograde Jul 2021 #13
Somehow I doubt 100% of them are poor. nt EX500rider Jul 2021 #17
It is not imported and it is not a luxury item. former9thward Jul 2021 #18
bully tactics. not expecting a great success from them since contract non-renewal is not boycott nt msongs Jul 2021 #4
Takes some real hubris to claim that a foreign country should NYC Liberal Jul 2021 #5
Maybe the word you want is... lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #19
Guess I'll have to buy some Cherry Garcia Ritabert Jul 2021 #6
This is so silly, no matter how you look at it! Beastly Boy Jul 2021 #7
Right? I am so confused by every aspect of this story Sympthsical Jul 2021 #20
I'm not understanding either Demovictory9 Jul 2021 #23
I'll explain NoRethugFriends Jul 2021 #27
Doesn't explain the efficacy of the actions Sympthsical Jul 2021 #29
Sorry. My response should have been under Beastly Boy's post NoRethugFriends Jul 2021 #31
Ben and Jerry's has not a clue...says Stu Stuart G Jul 2021 #8
There are states with laws against boycotting Israel? Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #10
I would not be surprised if some GQP SharonClark Jul 2021 #11
Yes, with bibles in hand... nt Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #15
CA, IL, NJ and NY have them. former9thward Jul 2021 #22
California and NY have anti-boycott laws on the books NYC Liberal Jul 2021 #32
Some states have what are anti-BDS laws Mad_Machine76 Jul 2021 #14
Most states have them. former9thward Jul 2021 #21
that's dangerous to our country to do that rockfordfile Jul 2021 #26
Say what!! I must be a criminal because I really try not to buy anything from Israel. nt joetheman Jul 2021 #25
Can hardly wait for a surge in Ben &Jerry's in those states. joetheman Jul 2021 #24
Explanation: the plan to make ice cream in a settlement would break Netanyahu's EU agreement muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #28
This is very helpful clarification. Thank you! n/t Sympthsical Jul 2021 #30
Interesting. Thanks so much for the further info. nt crickets Jul 2021 #33

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
2. That reminds me, I've got some primo fresh peaches, and they go well with ice cream!
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 07:42 PM
Jul 2021

Heading out in a bit . . . .

EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
3. Not sure how depriving W Bank Palestinians of their ice cream will help them..
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 07:43 PM
Jul 2021

...taken to it's extreme, nothing for sale in the West Bank other then what ever they locally produce like olives etc?
How does that punish Israel exactly?

former9thward

(31,965 posts)
18. It is not imported and it is not a luxury item.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jul 2021

It is made in a factory in Israel that has about 400 employees. Yes, Palestinians in the West Bank have the money to buy ice cream. The area has a much higher standard of living than Gaza which the media always fixates on. I recommend you visit the area sometime if you have the chance.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
5. Takes some real hubris to claim that a foreign country should
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 07:56 PM
Jul 2021

legally compel a company to do business in your own country. Even more so to claim that not doing so is bigoted.

Beastly Boy

(9,288 posts)
7. This is so silly, no matter how you look at it!
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 08:15 PM
Jul 2021

Ben and Jerry will keep selling their ice cream all over Israel, but not in the West Bank? Who are they trying to punish? How is this consistent with their values?

And Erdan belittling the meaning of "antisemitism" is even worse. This is no better than throwing around the term "apartheid" to describe Israel's policies towards the Palestinians.

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
20. Right? I am so confused by every aspect of this story
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:05 PM
Jul 2021

B&J are going to continue to sell in Israel - just not in a certain part? And that's punishment, because . . .

Then the stranger part to me - Why is he talking to governors? What are they going to do about? What can they do about it, even if they were so inclined?

What an odd little interaction here, all around.

The last B&J's I got was something called "topped love" where it has this crust of white chocolate or whatever on top. I only got it because it was whiskey caramel flavor, and that seemed interesting. Literally had to get a hammer to break it apart enough to get to the actual ice cream. Like putting a brick of white chocolate for the first few inches. It was not good.

They're expensive anyway, and their flavors are meh.

NoRethugFriends

(2,297 posts)
27. I'll explain
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:21 PM
Jul 2021

They don't want Israel to not exist. They want Israel to stop screwing around and doing the crap they do in the occupied territories. Really pretty simple

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
29. Doesn't explain the efficacy of the actions
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 05:01 PM
Jul 2021

I guess that's what my question is. What's going to change here, on either side?

Mad_Machine76

(24,402 posts)
14. Some states have what are anti-BDS laws
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 11:48 PM
Jul 2021

I have no idea how they're legal. I think I read a story about a teacher who got fired bc of a law like this

former9thward

(31,965 posts)
21. Most states have them.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:05 PM
Jul 2021

Including states like California, Illinois and New Jersey. NY has a Blacklist order signed by Cuomo against companies or organizations which participate in anti-Israel boycotts.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
24. Can hardly wait for a surge in Ben &Jerry's in those states.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:15 PM
Jul 2021

However, I wasn't sure whom their move hurt the most, the Palestinians or the Israelis?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
28. Explanation: the plan to make ice cream in a settlement would break Netanyahu's EU agreement
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:37 PM
Jul 2021
In Case Anyone Was Wondering What All the Meshugas About Ben & Jerry’s Ice Cream Is About, Allow Me To Try To Explain

So what is actually going on here? Something very, very simple and, to be honest, something the Netanyahu government obligated itself too. Ben & Jerry’s is now owned by Unilever, which is a large European multinational known for soap products and buying up a whole bunch of companies that make a variety of foods and beverages too. Unilever, because it has corporate offices in the EU, is bound by EU polices, rules, and regulations. Anshel Pfeffer, Bibi’s biographer, has the details:




The Netanyahu government decided not to annex the West Bank and signed an agreement with the EU which stipulated that there would be no European funding for projects in the settlements so as far as I’m concerned Ben & Jerry’s latest decision is in line with Netanyahu’s policies.

Based on what Pfeffer is reporting, it appears that Unilever decided to pull Ben & Jerry’s current production agreement and license with Israel, which included it being produced in the West Bank meaning at a settlement, in order to comply with the agreement that Bibi Netanyahu’s government negotiated with the EU. According to their announcement, Ben & Jerry’s, read Unilever, plans to continue to produce and sell its ice cream in Israel proper once a new licensee arrangement can be negotiated. All that is happening here is that Ben & Jerry’s, and their EU based corporate owner, are moving to become compliant with the EU agreement with Israel that Bibi Netanyahu’s government negotiated with the EU and then agreed to.

That’s it. It’s not anti-Zionism. It’s not anti-Semitism. It’s not anti-anything. Though I’m sure the usual suspects of Ben “the wickedest of sons” Shapiro, Bari “it’s not anti-Semitism unless I say it’s anti-Semitism” Weiss, Bret “I’m calling your boss and getting you fired” Stephens, Joel “please don’t tell anyone I grew up in South Africa and my Jewish parents were anti-apartheid activists because it’ll blow my cover as a Stephen Miller style I’m Jewish, but I’m also a white supremacist schtick at Breitbart” Pollack, Meghan “my dad knew Joe Lieberman” McCain, and just about every Republican elected and appointed official – almost none of whom are Jewish and/or Israeli – as well as just about everyone on Fox News – most of whom are neither Jewish and/or Israeli – will be along shortly to continue to scream that this is the most horrible, terrible anti-Semitism that ever anti-Semitismed. Because that’s what they do. Which, of course, distracts from actual anti-Semitism. Which has been on the rise in the US and in Europe and is an actual problem. Unlike this.

https://www.balloon-juice.com/2021/07/21/in-case-anyone-was-wondering-what-all-the-meshugas-about-ben-jerrys-ice-cream-is-about-allow-me-to-try-to-explain/
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