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Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:18 AM

Anyone else tired of DC Democrats playing Kumbaya

with the republicans.

Obama thought he could bring them around. Wasted several years of his presidency.

Now Biden thinks he can.

I support and respect both of them. I admire their optimism and their belief in their ability to move mountains, but . . .

Both should have listened to Hillary. She sat through 8 years of deplorable basket asshattery while Bill was president.

If we don't get the voting rights bill passed, there won't be a Democratic president or Congress for a generation.

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:26 AM

1. They're bringing a slingshot to a gun fight.

We need to save this country from violent fascists, not make deals with terrorists.

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:04 AM

2. Always.

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:59 AM

3. I honestly don't know if they're playing nice or just have so few options.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:10 AM

4. I agree...Democrats have to play this in the open with the public.

Republicans are all in on obstruction. To this Country's detriment. They should pay the political price.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 05:29 AM

10. We could do what the GQP would do if 10k democrats stormed the capital building ...

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... they would error on there side of making too much noise about treason.

They would error on the side of going too far in prosecution.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 05:33 AM

11. So what? We know they'll be assholes. That doesn't mean we have to be.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:11 AM

12. Oh yes it does !!! We would just do such legally and on the side of what America stands for...

... not against it.

Human behavior science, if you emote like someone's doing something wrong even if they're doing the right thing people will give ear for half a second.

We're LITERALLY acting like the Trump terrorist were REALLY tourist compared to what the daily barrage of "Democratic Terrorist" reports we'd get out of a Ron DeathSentence administration would be if dems even thought about doing something similar to 1/6/

THIS is the time to be assholes

We can't out organize voter nullification and anti access laws, we need to act a damn fool

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:27 AM

5. I SAY WHAT IT IS -REPUBLICAN CARTEL !

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:41 AM

6. dems need a full court press PR campaign to promote their brand and how repubs are sabotaging

policies good for the country

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 05:16 AM

7. YES!

There is no negotiating with terrorists! Do not trust these bastards for one minute and ram everything through that we can while we have the power. Fuck them all.

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 05:23 AM

8. K&R, we should error on the side of making too much noise about GQP treason

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 05:28 AM

9. Democrats have to be louder...

than the republicans who have no problem shouting everything they can to draw attention to themselves lies or not.

Timid time is over we gotta get a little dirty now and fight like hell.

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:25 AM

13. Oh, please! Cut it out.

Do you honestly think our party leaders are as DUMB and NAIVE as you're portraying them?

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:12 AM

15. I'm portraying them as

bending over backward to keep republicans from getting mad. In initial negotiations over an early bipartisan bill, republicans sent their representatives with their demands. We gave them everything. Then they changed and refused the deal that they demanded. They are not going to negotiate. Stop delaying.

We have spent political will and still treat the 30% with deference. Nancy just did what we should have done all along - refuse to bow to their theatrics and demagoguery.

What prompted my post was the news story that Biden still supports the filibuster. He used the old excuse that it encourages cooperation and compromise. Almost all Congress watchers agree that it is still being used for the same thing it was always used for - holding back progress for the people. I love me some Biden, but he seems stuck in the past, back in the day when he was in the Senate. Those days are gone. republicans are not using the nice/nice rules of the past. It is to our detriment that we want to.

I mean, 147 of them voted to end our voting democracy. I love having a decent man as president. But he needs to use that decency to call out those who would destroy our democracy rather than spending days and months convening with them. He needs to recognize that they are lying. They are lying to his face, and he wants to believe that they are sincere and honest. Yes. That is naive.

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:43 AM

14. People mocked Hillary for saying there was a vast right-wing conspiracy and years later

that Russian propaganda targeted potential Left-leaning voters. Democrats are mocked whatever they do.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 23, 2021, 01:34 PM

16. Hillary knew macconnel and all for what they are.

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Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)

Fri Jul 23, 2021, 01:41 PM

17. I've been griping about the Democratic Kumbaya approach for years.

As long as we wimp out, the Republicans will be stomping us.

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