My wife (Treasury) thinks Federal workers will have a vaccination mandate...

[brooklynite]

…once Pfizer receives full approval (hopefully in the next two months).

[Hugin]

1. That should be useful to flush out 40 years of termites...

I'm wondering what the consequences of non-compliance will be?

Don't leave it up to the agency heads. Nope, don't do it.

[fescuerescue]

7. whatever those consequences are, will be delayed

by years of court appeals.

[Hugin]

8. Yeah, that's why they usually receive an exemption.

It's easier and to be brutally honest due to the machinations of the Republicans and their treasonous "drown it in a bathtub" strategy. Especially, over the last 10 years. People aren't exactly clamoring to get Federal employment.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

2. Not so fast.

Thu Jul 22, 2021: Not so fast.

Workers have rights too.

EMPLOYMENT LAW

Employers React to Workers Who Refuse a COVID-19 Vaccination

By Allen Smith, J.D., and Lisa Nagele-Piazza, J.D., SHRM-SCP
April 26, 2021

As COVID-19 vaccines become widely available, many employers are asking if they can require employees to get vaccinated, and what they can do if workers refuse. Some employers are firing workers who won't take the vaccine.

The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) has weighed in with guidance that answers some workplace vaccination questions. Employers may encourage or possibly require COVID-19 vaccinations, but policies must comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII) and other workplace laws, according to the EEOC.

"An employee with a religious objection or a disability may need to be excused from the mandate or otherwise accommodated," noted John Lomax, an attorney with Snell & Wilmer in Phoenix. "Additionally, if an objecting employee is a union-represented employee, the employer may need to bargain and reach an agreement with the union before mandating vaccines."

{snip a lot of fine print}

[Hugin]

4. I would really like to know the history of the "religious objection" loophole.

Was it a recent revision?

[dsc]

5. I am so sick of the But Jesus exemption

if I had a religious exemption to wearing pants I am pretty sure that wouldn't be honored.

[Hugin]

6. That's what the "... or otherwise accommodated" is for.

Back in the olden days it meant you'd find yourself detailed to the Aleutians.

It's rarely invoked now.

[GregariousGroundhog]

10. That would probably be considered retaliation

Most states allow you to quit a job and receive unemployment benefits if you can show "good cause." If the employer changes your work site so that you have to commute more than a certain amount of time or distance, that usually allows you to quit for cause and receive UIB. Additionally, it could be considered retaliation in certain circumstances.

[Hugin]

12. You'd think so.

However, they don't move the person, they move the slot. Which, has been repeatedly upheld in Court as the prerogative of the Govt.

Which presents the employee with a choice follow the job (at their expense) or quit. In practice, most choose to quit or transfer. Which, means the subject is no longer the problem of that agency.

[In_The_Wind]

3. There should be a vaccine mandate for everyone.

[Dream Girl]

9. Good. My sister is a federal employee. She refuses to get vaccinated.

[Deep State Witch]

11. My Former Workplace

I am a former Federal employee. Yes, a former member of the "Deep State" (hence my new name). I retired at the end of 2020, partially because of COVID. Unlike most Federal agencies, mine was back at full strength after Labor Day of 2020, except for people who were considered to be high-risk. We literally had posterboard dividers between cubicles (I called it our magical COVID repelling cardboard). From what I understand from people who are still there, there is about a 50% vaccination rate among employees and contractors. They are constantly fighting disinformation about the vaccines, even among highly educated and intelligent people. It's depressing. I'm so glad that I retired when I did.