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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Baltimore County widow put her mansion on the market. Then sovereign citizens moved in.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-county/bs-prem-md-co-sovereign-citizens-falls-road-20210722-voivdsl2yfexbea2lep3bcuuk4-story.htmlValued at $1.5 million, the Falls Road home has it all.
Hidden among trees on 2 acres with an elegant outdoor terrace overlooking lush green forest, the 2 1/2-story mansion boasts a stone fireplace and vaulted wood-beam ceilings, six bedrooms and five bathrooms, a deluxe butlers pantry and indoor pizza oven and large windows across the walls of the 10,000-square-foot space. Theres even a treehouse with a wraparound porch.
It was the dream house designed and built by a prominent commercial real estate broker and his wife in 2005, two years after the pair married. When he died early last year, his widow hired a real estate agent, put her abode on the market and moved.
The phone calls from worried neighbors began in June: There was a chain locked across her driveway entrance. Warnings against trespassers appeared along the property perimeter. A group was spotted unloading furniture and other items from a moving truck.
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2naSalit
(86,323 posts)Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Sorry....
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)The paywall subscipt demands won't let you have a once in a lifetime pass to see the article. Oh well, maybe it will gain more attention soon, this sounds scary.
North Shore Chicago
(3,301 posts)I would be hopping mad!
Please arrest and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.
Chainfire
(17,467 posts)They are not subject to the laws of the land. Where ever they go they take their little nation, wrapped around their shoulders, like a cheap raincoat. The police have no authority over them. They are Sovereign.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)checkpoints).. Such encounters typically end with the officer smashing the driver's window, after spending half an hour (or more) arguing with SC who's been spouting endless lines obviously memorized for such a situation ("I'm not driving, I'm traveling. If you arrest me I will sue you and you will lose your job. I do not recognize your laws. Etc.).
Moostache
(9,895 posts)I hereby claim ALL sovereign citizens as colonial possessions of the United States of America, subject to the duties, laws and privileges that entails.
Now, go in and physically remove them with all necessary force.
Thtwudbeme
(7,737 posts)Chainfire
(17,467 posts)myself and ambassador and claim diplomatic immunity.
In fact, I will do it here and now! I am an independent nation! See how easy that is? Welcome to Steveistan!
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,336 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,620 posts)Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,620 posts)AllaN01Bear
(17,987 posts)nuxvomica
(12,409 posts)nuxvomica
(12,409 posts)If they make the assertion in court that they are not subject to our laws, declare their citizenship renounced and deport them. The citizenship rights protected by 14th Amendment do not apply.
This was originally meant to exclude those with diplomatic status but it may have been prescient.
Ms. Toad
(33,992 posts)The judge for whom i drafted several sovereign citizen decisions raised alpacas, one of which was named nux vomica.
Amishman
(5,554 posts)Just curious
nuxvomica
(12,409 posts)Or a ship in international waters.
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)Hire armed repossessors to walk in and take all their furniture and property. Since they don't recognize property rights, they won't complain.
msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)according to the SPLC, there are no laws to adequately deal with this, and apparently squatters legally have rights over ownership under certain conditions and situations.
I just don't subscribe to that idea, as a low income person frequently dealing with housing issues in my life, this is just complete bs.
Most especially really weird our capitalists over lords haven't managed to lobby lawmakers to enact protection for owners rights in these circumstances. just mind boggling.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)go in and arrest them.
msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)i can't speak to the location in the article, but in Oakland California I learned that squatters occupying a "vacant" home can not be arrested by law enforcers.
Shocking but true. found this out when the house next door to my daughters was vacant due to the owner passing away.
It was listed for sale, but it wasn't ready to be sold until repairs and basic improvements were made, due to the neglect from the deceased owner who occupied his home for over a half century.
So, this one homeless guy, sort of with mental disabilities, squatted there regularly. he came and went due to the deceased owners son doing the home repairs. But the owners son did not regularly work on the house. he'd go for weeks and months without attending to a damn thing, while the house just sat there, abandoned.
So it sort of fell under some kind of "abandoned home" classification, although it really wasn't literally abandoned. The son just took his sweet ass time getting the house ready to sell.
Some drama associated with this situation went on for a couple of years. Anyhow, that's when I learned about squatters rights, and protections from law enforcement wrt "abandoned" property.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)But who knows what damage they did in the meantime.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)are pigs