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Tweet of the night: (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2021 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jul 2021 #1
The truth malaise Jul 2021 #2
The truth malaise Jul 2021 #3
Brilliant. Bernie should keep explaining stuff in plain English like this... brush Jul 2021 #4
Bernie should write for the WH. He explains things better than anyone.n/t applegrove Jul 2021 #5
Yes, yes and yes. BeckyDem Jul 2021 #6
I love David Cay Johnston mountain grammy Jul 2021 #7
Yes! not fooled Jul 2021 #23
It should be noted that the "Wall Street bailout" returned a profit to the US Treasury.... George II Jul 2021 #8
Over what period of time? applegrove Jul 2021 #10
From the time the money was invested until the time it was repaid. George II Jul 2021 #17
Was it a year? 6 month's? 2 years? 5? applegrove Jul 2021 #19
But billionaires work so hard for their money! Why, some of them had to wait decades to inherit tclambert Jul 2021 #9
This this YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #11
K&R spanone Jul 2021 #12
Truth bomb! onecaliberal Jul 2021 #13
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #14
Excellent! Thanks Rhiannon. applegrove Jul 2021 #15
A lot of the Twitter replies are better than anything I could come up with! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #16
In the case of the "Wall Street bailout", it was an investment which was repaid at a profit. George II Jul 2021 #18
But how much profit was made and what time period? applegrove Jul 2021 #20
If there was a profit, it wasn't a loss or, in many people's terms, a "bailout".... George II Jul 2021 #21
Wikipedia applegrove Jul 2021 #22
Could tax breaks & tax loopholes be considered ongoing daily "bailouts"? KS Toronado Jul 2021 #28
Wish he had said... "Crazy, absurd defence budget $$" Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #24
K&R MustLoveBeagles Jul 2021 #25
Yup Blue Owl Jul 2021 #26
Bernie is really hitting his stride Tadpole Raisin Jul 2021 #27
Well said! Brother Mythos Jul 2021 #29
I wish we had more honest and smart politicians like... JoeOtterbein Jul 2021 #30
No truer words ever spoken Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #31
Kickin it, kickin it good. yonder Jul 2021 #32
That's a good one! calimary Jul 2021 #33
Excellent! liberalla Jul 2021 #34

brush

(53,743 posts)
4. Brilliant. Bernie should keep explaining stuff in plain English like this...
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jul 2021

so regular folks not into politics so much like us DUers can get it immediately.

Not mentioning the word socialism is also smart since it's still toxic to many.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
23. Yes!
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 PM
Jul 2021

David Cay Johnston, Charlie Pierce, Malcolm Nance, and Elie Mystal are my favorite guests on news shows.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. It should be noted that the "Wall Street bailout" returned a profit to the US Treasury....
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 09:24 PM
Jul 2021

About $245B was invested by the Treasury and the payback was more than $250B, some say the profit was about $10B.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
9. But billionaires work so hard for their money! Why, some of them had to wait decades to inherit
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 09:36 PM
Jul 2021

their fortunes from their parents.

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. If there was a profit, it wasn't a loss or, in many people's terms, a "bailout"....
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 10:26 PM
Jul 2021

It was an investment that resulted in a profit AND had billions of dollars in peripheral profit or benefit.

applegrove

(118,501 posts)
22. Wikipedia
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 10:39 PM
Jul 2021

"SNIP.....

Early estimates for the total cost of the bailout to the government were as much as $700 billion, however TARP recovered funds totalling $441.7 billion from $426.4 billion invested, earning a $15.3 billion profit or an annualized rate of return of 0.6% and perhaps a loss when adjusted for inflation.[3]

......

Other information

A review of investor presentations and conference calls by executives of some two dozen US-based banks by The New York Times found that "few [banks] cited lending as a priority. An overwhelming majority saw the bailout program as a no-strings-attached windfall that could be used to pay down debt, acquire other businesses, or invest for the future."[195]



....SNIP"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008

That money invested somewhere else (the stock market) would have made 6% a year. Maybe more. 15B is not 6% a year on a $441 billion. So it was a billion dollar bailout.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. Wish he had said... "Crazy, absurd defence budget $$"
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 11:43 PM
Jul 2021

WTH do we need 1 1/2 million active troops for?

Elephant in room.

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