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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:31 AM Jul 2021

Has anyone else had this weird gardening experience?

Last edited Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:48 PM - Edit history (1)

A letter to Stepehn King, written from western Maine.

1380 Hammond Street
Bangor, ME 04401
Re: An Idea for a Story

Hi, Mr. King,

I haven't read a lot of your stuff, but I know enough about your writing to have said to myself multiple times this summer, "I feel like I'm in a Stephen King novel!"

The reason is the weird fructiousness of this year's growing season. There was almost no dieback on the roses. There is NO fungus on the tomatoes, squash or delphiniums. There are no potato bugs. There are no flea beetles after a tiny early infestation. There were no snails or slugs on the lettuce. There are no cabbage worms. Five of my six cauliflowers made beautiful heads. The sixth might do so still. There are no leaf miners on the chard. All of this without frantic spraying.

It's truly weird. What's killing the pests? Will it kill me???? Will the chard grow so big it chokes us in the night?

Maybe you've already used this plot, but if not, feel free. No credit required.

Regards,

A gardener in Maine

Edit: I'm going to add to this letter "no asparagus beetles!"

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Has anyone else had this weird gardening experience? (Original Post) LAS14 Jul 2021 OP
Love it! Bayard Jul 2021 #1
Maybe it's time to revisit, "The Langoliers"? Hugin Jul 2021 #2
Very few bugs on my plants, but Tracer Jul 2021 #3
I'm finding slimy slugs climbing on almost everything Siwsan Jul 2021 #4
For slugs and snails Unwind Your Mind Jul 2021 #6
Come to my garden, your sense of normalcy will return post haste. Chainfire Jul 2021 #5
Bees seem to be making a comeback in my yard. Tennessee Hillbilly Jul 2021 #7
You might have a new beekeeper nearby. nt. Mariana Jul 2021 #9
Well it's mostly bumblebees and small native bees that I see now. Tennessee Hillbilly Jul 2021 #30
I'm getting lots of bees at my birdbath and StarryNite Jul 2021 #13
lotsa' bees here, too, and NJCher Jul 2021 #38
One of our neighbors set up two beeboxes this year Wicked Blue Jul 2021 #44
They do love most flowering herbs. Mariana Jul 2021 #51
No fungus on tomatoes - Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #8
Not gardening recently, but the buddleias in the apartment complex... Girard442 Jul 2021 #10
Several variables out of whack bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #11
An invasion of gypsy moths here luvtheGWN Jul 2021 #16
I was trying to think of the last time I saw a fire fly YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #12
We have a few fireflies at night, but not as many as when I was a kid. marie999 Jul 2021 #23
Another thing... YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #26
We liver in San Francisco in the 70s. Snails were everywhere. marie999 Jul 2021 #28
Yup YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #29
I've had more fireflies this year than I have ever seen at this house. Mariana Jul 2021 #54
Wow YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #56
Really?! Really not my experience. Worst in a decade. StClone Jul 2021 #14
I found a live cicada on my breezeway this morning. rickyhall Jul 2021 #15
The gardener is welcome to my hordes of Japanese beetles! Owl Jul 2021 #17
Insects are dying off miffelplix Jul 2021 #18
Oh, wo!!! I was afraid something like this might be going on!! nt LAS14 Jul 2021 #33
I plant native herbaceous perennials and grasses hibbing Jul 2021 #19
Yes, diversity is on the decline Marthe48 Jul 2021 #20
Yeah, I don't see too many of the big slugs I noticed back when we first moved up here. calimary Jul 2021 #21
If you need some, we have extra here. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #59
Not only the insects - I live out in the country womanofthehills Jul 2021 #22
THAT'S what's missing. Squirrels and bunnies. KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #37
We have bunnies now Mossfern Jul 2021 #40
Plenty of bugs in my garden. Woodwizard Jul 2021 #24
That's the plot of To Serve Man lame54 Jul 2021 #25
the bugs are still ruling in my yard bigtree Jul 2021 #27
Something's been nibbling my Basil leaves... brooklynite Jul 2021 #31
guessing slugs NJCher Jul 2021 #42
I've read that Japanese beetles also chomp on basil Wicked Blue Jul 2021 #45
Japanese beetles aplenty here CrackityJones75 Jul 2021 #32
Buckets of snails are en route to the cited address (above), with my regards. UTUSN Jul 2021 #34
I'm in a pitched battle with armies of Japanese beetles in my yard. Treefrog Jul 2021 #35
live and let live NJCher Jul 2021 #43
Yeah, no problems in my house. Treefrog Jul 2021 #48
flour? NJCher Jul 2021 #49
My dad taught me to feed Japanese beetles to the garden spiders. Mariana Jul 2021 #52
and very few Japanese beetles!Yay! But not enough bees. By far librechik Jul 2021 #36
Build or buy some housing for your native bees! Mariana Jul 2021 #53
good idea! will do! librechik Jul 2021 #57
Have no idea Mossfern Jul 2021 #39
No! Mossfern Jul 2021 #41
I've seen no stinkbugs this summer, first time in probably 10 years FakeNoose Jul 2021 #46
They've gone on vacation to New Hampshire. I'm happy to send them back. Vinca Jul 2021 #58
Naw I'm in Washington state. ismnotwasm Jul 2021 #47
LOL shanti Jul 2021 #50
Pretty normal Florida summer here. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #55

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
2. Maybe it's time to revisit, "The Langoliers"?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jul 2021

I've noticed similar. The birds, particularly the typically insectivore, are eating alternatives such as certain berries.

Another oddity in my area is that my plants are showing overwatering near the base and wilt at the top due to the heat. The only normal looking plants I have are those which are shaded most of the day. This is true of the full sun varieties as well.

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
3. Very few bugs on my plants, but
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:40 AM
Jul 2021

very few veggies either.

I blame the poor summer weather -- 18 straight days of rain from July 3 to July 21.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
4. I'm finding slimy slugs climbing on almost everything
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jul 2021

Some huge, some small. No real problem with the veg garden, but the tomatoes and squash are far less abundant than in past years. Peppers seem to be ok. Well, except for the Scotch Bonnets. 3 out of the 4 are producing (although less than last year) but the 4th is just now kicking into gear.

Our temperatures have been all over the place, and the rain is hit and miss. I'm probably going to have to buy some tomatoes if I want to stew and freeze some.

Unwind Your Mind

(2,041 posts)
6. For slugs and snails
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jul 2021

One of my favorite things I’ve done is build a toad habitat. They need water and a place to hide from birds and they will come.

It takes a half bucket of water every couple days but I now get to eat my lettuce.

7. Bees seem to be making a comeback in my yard.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:49 PM
Jul 2021

Their numbers had been decreasing in recent years. They are vital for pollination.

On a sadder note, all the wild rabbits in my neighborhood disappeared a couple of years ago and still haven't returned.

30. Well it's mostly bumblebees and small native bees that I see now.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:22 PM
Jul 2021

There used to be a lot of honey bees, but only a few now and I think they are "wild". Years ago I would occasionally see a nest of them in a tree or bush. I don't know of any bee keepers nearby.

StarryNite

(9,443 posts)
13. I'm getting lots of bees at my birdbath and
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jul 2021

at the water pond I have for my tortoises. I've never had so many bees before. We still have lots of wild rabbits.

NJCher

(35,655 posts)
38. lotsa' bees here, too, and
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jul 2021

monarch butterflies.

Northern NJ . Organic gardener long-time. I have built up a "clientele."

Wicked Blue

(5,831 posts)
44. One of our neighbors set up two beeboxes this year
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 06:01 PM
Jul 2021

It is lovely to see honeybees again.
They are enjoying the blooming peppermint now.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
51. They do love most flowering herbs.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:09 PM
Jul 2021

I miss my bees. I had to be away from home during most of the spring, so a friend is keeping my two colonies for the season. However, my yard isn't beeless the way it was before I got my own - someone else must be keeping bees nearby.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
8. No fungus on tomatoes -
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jul 2021

And fungus has decimated our plants the last couple of years.

Plenty of slugs.

Something is eating the leaves of the husk cherries to death.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
10. Not gardening recently, but the buddleias in the apartment complex...
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jul 2021

....are thriving -- not seeing any butterflies.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
11. Several variables out of whack
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:16 PM
Jul 2021

Summer warmth, warming earlier in the spring, frigid spell in Feb here, less smog for 18 months, covid in the air, TFG confined to Florida, Limbaugh dead. I could think of many reasons why things are in an altered state.

Did I already forget one? Cicada year.

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
12. I was trying to think of the last time I saw a fire fly
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jul 2021

Probably when I was a kid. I’ve not seen them in years. -We used to have a plant called California paint brush I haven’t seen those either in years.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
23. We have a few fireflies at night, but not as many as when I was a kid.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:36 PM
Jul 2021

Not many bugs but that may be because we have 12 turkeys and 9 chickens. All pets.

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
26. Another thing...
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jul 2021

Years ago, I had heard, that someone allowed SNAILS Loose accidentally in the City Of San Francisco however I haven’t seen those in years. It used to rain and they would come out on the sidewalk and you had to avoid stepping on them but they’re gone now.

Sidenote: more coyotes have been spotted in the city limits lately. I wonder what that means?

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
28. We liver in San Francisco in the 70s. Snails were everywhere.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jul 2021

I assume you are talking about the four-legged coyotes. Probably because we are expanding where we live and taking over their terrain.

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
29. Yup
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:08 PM
Jul 2021

The animal.There was also a plant called the Indian paintbrush. Beautiful oranges and yellows with dark green leaves. I don’t see them anymore either come to think of it I haven’t seen a dandelion in years either.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
54. I've had more fireflies this year than I have ever seen at this house.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:34 PM
Jul 2021

In 2000-2004 I lived in a house that had a swampy area behind it. Firefly heaven. There were three or four different species of fireflies out there, all with their own flashing patterns.

Of course, it was also mosquito heaven. I live on higher, drier ground now.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
14. Really?! Really not my experience. Worst in a decade.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:30 PM
Jul 2021

Potato beetles are endlessly mating, laying, and eating through my crop. Deer are having a hay day. Tomatoes are showing wilt even though I have taken many precautions. Vine Bores have riddled my pumpkin vines and I have not seen a baby pumpkin. One blessing? Cabbage Butterflies have arrived late and my cabbage crop is great!

I have grown organic crops for nearly 25 years and had the worse frost damage in May ever (three days of subfreezing in mid-May with 26F being the lowest!).

Planting fall spinach and lettuce should have occurred last week and hope to get at it soon when I feel up to it.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
15. I found a live cicada on my breezeway this morning.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:38 PM
Jul 2021

We're not supposed to have any in Arkansas this year unless he flew from Illinois.

Owl

(3,641 posts)
17. The gardener is welcome to my hordes of Japanese beetles!
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jul 2021

Miserable things.

The beetles decimating everything... that'd be a great Stephen King novel. (He's my favorite author.)

hibbing

(10,096 posts)
19. I plant native herbaceous perennials and grasses
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:03 PM
Jul 2021

My plants are pretty much covered in a variety of bees, wasps, moths, beetles, dragonflies and so on.


Peace

Marthe48

(16,935 posts)
20. Yes, diversity is on the decline
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:18 PM
Jul 2021

However, we have mushrooms growing in the yard. In July.

I feed critters year around. This year, not filling the feeders. I had stopped because the squirrels empty them in less than 24 hrs. But learned that a die-off among songbirds might be because of dirty feeders.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
21. Yeah, I don't see too many of the big slugs I noticed back when we first moved up here.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jul 2021

BIG ones. Black, brown, and with long “pleats” or “ribbing” extending halfway down their - uh - “backs?”

I never saw anything like ‘em in SoCal! They were everywhere up here and I’d always see quite a few whenever I walked the dog. And I think I’ve seen one this year.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
22. Not only the insects - I live out in the country
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:35 PM
Jul 2021

Very few bunnies - they have some horrible disease out here in NM. You just find them dead. Mice population way way down from last year. Fewer birds, but thousands of flies.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
37. THAT'S what's missing. Squirrels and bunnies.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 04:51 PM
Jul 2021

I keep thinking this whole summer is too quiet and could not put my finger on it. I suddenly realized I can't even remember the last time I saw any rabbits or squirrels.

Mossfern

(2,486 posts)
40. We have bunnies now
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 05:23 PM
Jul 2021

and chipmunks. Had a decent fox population that took care of those small critters, but last year was a bad outbreak of mange.

Woodwizard

(842 posts)
24. Plenty of bugs in my garden.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:52 PM
Jul 2021

had an infestation of cucumber beetles just about eat all the leaves off my zucchini with all the rain tomato blight is on my least resistant varieties even with spraying the copper fungicide and trimming the plants. Good news is after eradicating the cucumber beetles I now have tons of zucchini.

I am in the Catskills lots of rain this last month.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
27. the bugs are still ruling in my yard
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jul 2021

...but the growth is unlike anything in our 20 years.

I say the sun is 'hotter' here in Md., blooming flowers like Alaska does in their short/long day season.

NJCher

(35,655 posts)
42. guessing slugs
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 05:27 PM
Jul 2021

prol'ly slugs.

They were all over my basil, tearing it up, until I threw organic slug pellets (Slug Magic) around. Safer and Bonide m'fr the pellets.

Wicked Blue

(5,831 posts)
45. I've read that Japanese beetles also chomp on basil
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 06:05 PM
Jul 2021

My big problem with basil is the yellowing disease that wipes them out in late summer.

UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
34. Buckets of snails are en route to the cited address (above), with my regards.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jul 2021

ON EDIT: Whups, thought the address was for the O.P. -






 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
35. I'm in a pitched battle with armies of Japanese beetles in my yard.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 04:06 PM
Jul 2021

If anyone has the upper hand, it’s them, but I’m gaining ground.

Today discovered scale in another part of my garden. Fire ants, bees, carpenter ants all doing well. Mosquitos thriving. I try to live and let live (except for the Japanese beetles) and so far all is well.

NJCher

(35,655 posts)
43. live and let live
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 05:33 PM
Jul 2021

yeah, me, too. In the old days, before insect die-off, I might have used ant killer to keep them out of my house.

However, I have found that being scrupulous about residue of any kind of sweet food pretty much keeps them out. Other things they like are watermelon and cat food.

I researched this and found that ants can distinguish 400 kinds of smells. It's the odor that draws them in, so keep anything they like put away. if I have a cup of watermelon, for example, I immediately rinse the dish and put it in the dishwasher when I'm through eating it.

Once and a while I will see a little scout ant wandering around but other than that, I've had no problem with them this year.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
48. Yeah, no problems in my house.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:38 PM
Jul 2021

It’s just the beetles after my roses, grrr.

I have great difficulty killing anything, and I won’t use chemicals, so basically I’m glad they only live 40 days.

NJCher

(35,655 posts)
49. flour?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:49 PM
Jul 2021

I've tried it for other beetle situations and it works. Sprinkle flour lightly across the leaves. Actually any white powder will work; doesn't have to be flour.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
52. My dad taught me to feed Japanese beetles to the garden spiders.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:18 PM
Jul 2021

I'd drop the beetles in the web and let the spider do its thing. Spiders in our yard never went hungry.

I haven't seen a single garden spider in my yard since I moved here in 2013. I know they live in the area, just haven't had any take up residence here.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
36. and very few Japanese beetles!Yay! But not enough bees. By far
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 04:37 PM
Jul 2021

and I'm trying not to think about next year and the year after that.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
53. Build or buy some housing for your native bees!
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:24 PM
Jul 2021

I did and have a pretty good population of Mason bees around now, even though I also normally have honeybees.

Mossfern

(2,486 posts)
39. Have no idea
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 05:18 PM
Jul 2021

Deer are very hungry and my next door neighbor insists on feeding them.
My 'smelly' herbs are doing well although they apparently can manage to eat parsley.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
46. I've seen no stinkbugs this summer, first time in probably 10 years
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 06:16 PM
Jul 2021

Western Pennsylvania was inundated by stinkbugs when they snuck on board a cargo container from China. They went crazy and proliferated everywhere because they have no natural enemies here in the states. But those ugly stinkbugs DO prefer warm temperatures, so I guess our winters have chased them south. Once the stinkbugs were here (about 10 years ago) it seemed they were everywhere. But I've seen fewer each year, and this summer there haven't been any. I didn't realize it until I read this letter to Stephen King.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
47. Naw I'm in Washington state.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 06:26 PM
Jul 2021

I never get tomato fungus though. I cut back my grapes a LOT and now I have to build a better arbor.

Actually I didn't plant this year— to much going on in my life. So I have a bunch of reseeded cherry tomatoes and spaghetti squash. Ok, I did throw some potatoes in an old compost and they seem to be happy. My raspberries are fabulous. Strawberries ok, I’m going to move them to the back garden. I have rhubarb every year. Tried to kill the horseradish, but I give up.

I am completely jealous of my neighbors corn though, and I saw a gardening style that kind of put squashes and tomatoes and corn together that I want to try. Healthy, fabulous plants.

My roses didn’t have aphids though, which is unusual. I let oregano grow as a weedy flower, same for thyme

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
55. Pretty normal Florida summer here.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jul 2021

Like normal can only grow peppers and okra. Field peas do ok if you have enough room. This is not our gardening season. That starts in October.

Never gets cool enough for tomatoes except cherry tomatoes which are doing well.

Actually a pretty cool summer. It was pleasant outside tonight. Even you northerners would have enjoyed it. Mid to high 70’s with a strong breeze.

I’ve read Florida may actually get cooler with climate change. More cloud cover and rain.

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