Steve Schmidt: Donald Trump will be the nominee in 2024 . . .

[CousinIT]

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Donald Trump will be the GOP nominee in 2024. The 2022 and 2024 elections will decide if democracy survives in this country. It is as simple as that. Donald Trump repeatedly asked advisors to cancel the 2020 election because of Covid. He wanted the US military to open fire

against peaceful protesters. He is profoundly dangerous. His movement is profoundly dangerous. Trump has embraced and emboldened extremist groups that include neo Nazi’s, white supremacists, fascist thugs, violent militias, anti semites and conspiracy loons. Trumps extremist

movement is sustained by donations from some of the largest companies and richest individuals in America. It is fueled by a Propaganda lie-machine that is hubbed by @FoxNews and sustained by a cacophony of lies and insanities that are spewed forth by lesser propagandists on

Talk radio, newspapers, streaming services ect. Trump and his lieutenants like @GOPLeader @GregAbbott_TX @tedcruz @RepMTG @laurenboebert @mattgaetz @Jim_Jordan @EliseStefanik @HawleyMO @TuckerCarlson have made their intentions perfectly clear. They have become faithless to

the Republic. They have chosen power over patriotism and in doing so have desecrated the sacrifice of every American Patriot who has ever fought to preserve and expand liberty. Delusions around who these people are and what they will do if they take political power in this

country again are just as crazy, and maybe more so, than the worst of the anti vaccine insanity. We have no excuses with regard to understanding the danger, corruption, lying, malice and bad faith of Trump and his movement. American democracy won’t be lost in a coup or

insurrection. It will be lost in an election where the autocrats and fascists that have screamed their hostility to our highest ideals from the rooftop gets more votes than the pro democracy side. There will always be more people in America who reject autocracy and Trump than

Support him. The question is whether there are going to be enough to fight back against this or not. These two things can both be true. Joe Biden is a good man and doing a great job as @POTUS. Donald Trump and his fascist movement have had a very good 7 months. They aren’t

former anythings. They are a CLEAR and PRESENT DANGER. The Pro-Democracy coalition is sleep walking into the ‘22 election and the stakes couldn’t be higher. What will we tell our grandchildren? I suppose the truth will be this; we lost our Republic to the people who told us

they despised it because the fools who should have defended it didn’t believe they were telling the truth.

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[Lovie777]

1. I'm one who does not think so . . .

[Bev54]

11. Me neither

I am hoping he will be indicted by then or dead, and if neither the country will sure as hell know a whole lot more about his depravity and crimes. He is done.

[COL Mustard]

54. I Hope You're Right

But the only way to ensure that he is done is to turn out in such MASSIVE numbers in 2022 and 2024 that no one can claim fraud.

Please, vote like your country depends on it...it does.

[wnylib]

66. Along with the voters we need good messaging

that appeals to how people feel more than to how people think in order to turn attitudes around. Trump and his gang appeal to the worst emotions in people. We need to appeal to people's better sides by arousing their self interests in constructive directions - emotionally, not intellectually.

Ridicule the Trump message about socialism with responses along the lines of, "Really? That's what THEY tell you because they don't care if you benefit from any programs. They're rich. What do they know about what you need?"

And start messsging now. Undercut the validity of Trump and the RW political machine to turn attitudes around BEFORE election season starts so that they are on the defensive. We are thecl party of the people. They are the party of the wealthy elites who rob people while blaming others.

[pandr32]

14. +1

[barbtries]

22. me too

i also believe that if he is the nominee, he will lose.

[Jon King]

35. He can't be guaranteed PA, MI, WI so he won't run.

No way he risks another loss. They can deliver GA and AZ and keep NC and TX through voter suppression or the legislature overturning some districts.

But if the Dems win PA, MI, WI again which is likely due to the growth of the suburbs, he loses big time again. No way on earth he runs in 2024.

[PortTack]

58. This! Cook political pointed out that PA, WI, and MI had only voted once in the past 24 yrs for a

Gop presidential candidate, which was tfg in 16. By 2020 they’d obviously had enough

[mgardener]

65. If it is not Trump

It will be someone just like him.
Stefanik is my Rep.
Since replacing Liz Cheney her Twitter feed has become vile.
Really nasty.

She never used to be this way. I never liked her, but she was semi reasonable.
No longer.

[SergeStorms]

69. Tedra Cobb again in 2022?

I'm not in their district, but I poured a lot of money into Cobb's run against Stefanik. I really thought she'd do better.

Do you know if Tedra is going to challenge her again next year? Stefanik has to go, and I think her support is eroding slightly because of her sharp right turn.

[ProfessorGAC]

82. Agreed!

There are still 3 years before the election. If the economy improves, the pandemic fades away, & the markets keep rising, a lot of people in the middle will vote for the status quo.
Add to that, there's 40 months for more dirt to come out on the prior gang of punks.
Plenty of time for negatives to build on one side, and positives on the other.
If that happens, the QOP will see another executive landslide coming at them. They'll do what they have to to duck embarrassment.

[PortTack]

2. Everyone is entitled to their opinion...just mine...he won't run

Guess we’ll find out

[dalton99a]

3. He'll campaign - to collect money.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

44. Yup, and back out at the last moment then...

take the money and run.

Grift-O-Matic

[SergeStorms]

70. My opinion as well.

He loves the political grift, and he and his rotten kids have made a ton of money from it. I believe this is the only reason he'll run again. It's certainly not because he loved the work and responsibility connected with the presidency.

[Saboburns]

4. Absolutely he will. He CRAVES the spotlight.

Craves it like no other. His ego won't allow him not too.

There is nothing he will not do to be POTUS again.

Nothing.

[BigmanPigman]

25. $$$$$$ and the attention will drive him to campaign again.

Deja vu.

[Ishoutandscream2]

5. He's no spring chicken

He could die before then, or be even more severely impaired than he is now.

[monkeyman1]

33. when !

when then shit hit's the fan, TFG will either run like the coward he is or be in bracelets & stroke out on the spot to avoid being in jail ! to many pending indictment coming up to even consider him running ! all this BULLSHIT about him running in '22 is just a con for his super -pac slush fund !! he can now say that he toped ol' Bernie Madoff on the biggest con job in all time !!

[TexasBushwhacker]

77. I think that too

In 2022 he would turn 78. He is obese. He has heart disease. He had COVID-19 and that can have long lasting effects. Hey s 2 brothers died at 42 and 71.

[Progressive Jones]

6. I doubt he'll run. If he did, I doubt he'd live until election day. nt

[diane in sf]

7. He may pretend he's running to fleece the rubes. But I don't think he's physically or mentally

up to actually running. Hopefully he’ll be massively embroiled in prosecutions for his many criminal acts by then. He’s losing his mind pretty rapidly. Soon all that will be left is a puddle of hatred and criminality and his dirty depends.

[Buckeyeblue]

8. I think he has to run to avoid being indicted

I think the DOJ and state AGs will be reluctant to indict a former president running for president again.

I also don't think he'll win. If anything, I think he'll hurt down ticket Republicans in places like Texas, Ohio, North Carolina, along with all of the states Biden carried in 2020.

[Bayard]

9. I generally agree with Steve Schmidt's political savy

But I think he's off on this one.

If trump lives another four years, he has legal trouble coming at him from so many directions he's not going to know which end is up.

[CentralMass]

48. Like running Sarah Palin as McCain's VP

[Duppers]

56. Absolutely!

Plus, his popularity is waning - he's been unsuccessful in trying to raise money as he once did...and people have stopped showing up for the few gatherings he's attempted.

[andym]

10. His ego is huge. His father lived into his 90s: Trump will run

unless his "hamberders" do him in. And he and his movement are just as dangerous as Schmidt states. Look at all his minions like the talk radio host from TN who not only amplify Trump's nonsense, but actually believe his anti-vaccine propaganda for example.

[MiniMe]

15. His father had alzheimers pretty bad before he died.

I think tRump is showing signs that his genetics are doing him in.

[Hekate]

21. Trump is only in his 70s & could live quite a long time w dementia, propped up by those...

… who find him useful.

[MiniMe]

23. Not sure tRump's ego could take that

He needs control to be happy

[andym]

49. In early dementia stages he wouldn't even know that he is not in control

That would never stop him, and he would never admit he had it as well. He already gets away with talking nonsense like injecting bleach for Covid.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

12. Hard to run for POTUS if in prison, indicted, or broke...

But then, Republicans do not care. They are hell bent on raping this country and getting all they can for themselves.

For they want to basically nullify the US Constitution in its entirety, save for a few amendments they like.
Have Civil, Human, and Voting Rights null and void.
Have Religion dominate all Civil law.
Make Abortion and Contraception ILLEGAL.
Ban all medical procedures that prevent pregnancy.
Make the LGBTQ community the targets of new discrimination.
Eliminate all Social Safety nets for the Poor, Seniors, Disabled.
Eliminate taxes for the rich, but make the poor pay for everyting.

And on down the line. Which is why we must make sure we get all f our voters out in 2022 and 2024 regardless of the roadblocks being put up.

[MontanaMama]

18. He might go broke...

But no way he’s going to prison and I doubt he will ever be indicted. He will continue his grifting by fake campaigning, however. My prediction is Ron DeathSentence is the GQP nominee.

[rickyhall]

13. We can only hope a prosecutor or the angel of death is quicker.

[aurora the great]

16. Please don't kid yourself

Donald Trump has a massive ego. He can pretend his was the greatest Presidency of all time. Even he knows better. He is a failed president. He is wounded and a wounded megalomaniac is a dangerous thing. His supporters are still solidly behind him and, it appears, there is nothing, absolutely nothing, that he (or we) can do to change that. Granted 2024 is still a ways off. He could be indicated and convicted of an offense that would land him in jail and prevent him from running for president a 2nd time. Hell, he could die. But the 2022 elections are critical if we lose the House (and to a lessor extent the Senate) we are all in for a world of hurt. An invigorated population of miscreants, (and yes I know they are not all miscreants but they are all delusional) will stop at nothing to return Trump to power. Notice I didn't say return Trump to the white House as the lawfully elected President. They will insert him as our dear leader by what ever means possible. Wake up people our democratic republic lies in the balance. Oh, this is imho and I could be wrong.

[First Speaker]

17. I agree with Schmidt. If it were proved tomorrow that Trump was an outright Russian asset...

...if every single "conspiracy theory" regarding Trump were shown to be absolutely true--the Pee Tape, pedophilia, you name it--and if it could be shown that Putin knew this, and was squeezing Trump every second of his "presidency"--it wouldn't matter in the least to the GOP "base". Trump would win the nomination anyway. And quite possibly, thanks to the GOP state legislatures stacking the deck, get back into the White House. If he *was* prosecuted, by anybody, it would just make him more popular than ever with the Republicans...

[Hekate]

19. And some people wonder why I like Steve Schmidt so much.

[Tadpole Raisin]

20. Oh he will run for President

absent being in prison which I fear he will avoid.
But he will run to

1. Grift as much money off his supporters as possible.
2. Get revenge off anyone, D or R.
3. For accolades his malignant narcissism requires.
4. Absolute power


2 other thoughts

- If he went to prison and everyone around him hated him so much they yelled and screamed at him and constantly told him to shut up. What a wonderful thing that would be.

- If not, he should go buy some massive island somewhere for sale, and let his supporters pay whatever they want to come to the island while he becomes the self pronounced king. They will build wonderful resident buildings and these nuts will follow him. Then the fun begins as the infighting starts and the whole community falls apart.

YES!!!

[Mr.Bill]

31. Him being in prison

will energize his base and kick the violence into high gear. He may be the candidate, but in a fair election he will never be elected president again. In either '22 or '24 there will be gunfire at the polls. And I mean lots of it.

I hope I'm wrong, but they will do anything to not have a fair election.

[monkeyman1]

38. ya' - use his island to have navy target practice!

[Aviation Pro]

24. Bloated Tick will be horizontal in 2024

…..

[stillcool]

26. too bad it's not all about Trump

all the states in this country that are embracing the demise of the federal government, and democracy matter far more than TFG. If he should get the nomination, it's not because of him, it's because of 'them'. They could put anyone up, and juice up the base with any kind of bullshit they come up with.

[YoshidaYui]

27. Not if he is in prison

I’m sure the FBI is actively working on it right now as well as the Southern District of New York.

[Mr.Bill]

36. I worry that the "investigators" of Trump

are doing nothing but putting on the appearance of an investigation while they count the days, weeks, months and years until retirement.

[YoshidaYui]

46. It's been said that the wheels of justice are slow

But justice matters. I have no doubt if Trump has broken the law so he will not get out of it this time. Hopefully there’s lots of time left before he can run for office.

Glenn Kirchner said he will probably go to prison.

[PortTack]

59. I like Glenn Kirchner a lot! He's just all about the facts

[YoshidaYui]

62. Yup

If he says Trump is going to prison I believe him.

“Because justice matters.”— Glenn Kirchner

[Jim__]

28. People voting to end democracy seems ironic.

You have to wonder if they understand what they are doing.

[bucolic_frolic]

29. It's now or never for these fascists, they won't let this opportunity pass without their best effort

because they'll never be this close again. Steve Schmidt? You've got to convince The Lincoln Project to do something other than produce slick videos seen by 3% of the population. You're preaching to the sopranos in the choir.

[Jon King]

30. No chance he risks losing again, it will be Desantis.

They can't guarantee PA, MI, WI due to Dem governors veto of any laws allowing the legislature to overturn votes.

So that means he likely loses all states he lost last time, except maybe AZ and GA if they can cheat. Still not enough and that means another loss, likely by 15 million votes.

Desantis will be his lackey...if he loses, oh well its his fault, if he wins which is doubtful, TFG controls him. So that will be his play.

[monkeyman1]

40. might be cell mates too !!

[ironman99]

32. How do I see the FTG?

My fervent hope is that he has a massive stroke, but it does not kill him. Then his spawn realize that he had absolutely zero cash available to pay for medical expenses.

As a result, he is left as a drooling imbecile, cared for by a minimum wage black woman. And the spawn are left trying to figure out how to live the life they are accustomed to with ZERO F****ing cash.

Snort that up your nose Donnie Jr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sucha NastyWoman]

34. I hope so

I think he would be much easier to beat than De Santis or Cruz.

Let’s face it Republicans are not going to run anybody as their candidate that is anywhere near reasonable and responsible. Whoever they are, they will be a bomb thrower. At least Trump is a known quantity.

[Jon King]

37. Desantis and Cruz would also lose the same exact states...

Neither has any charisma and both would be linked as his lackeys. Both would get smoked in a general election. PA, MI, WI would go Democrat even bigger margins without TFG on the ballot. Those 3 states hold the key and none would be excited about Desantis or Cruz. And those 3 states with Dem governors were not able to enact laws that would help a Repug win in 2024.

[Stuart G]

39. Remember, today is July 24, 2021..3 Years is a Long Way Away..

Will Trump be in condition to run in 3 years.?
Will Trump be in prison in 3 years?
Will Trump be alive in 3 years?
Will Trump even want to run in 3 years, he appears to want to run now, but three years is a long time
away?
Will the Republican Party want him to run in 3 years...Anything can happen.. No you don't think so?
In 2015 did anyone think Trump would win in 2016?. That he had a good chance of winning?

[PortTack]

61. Very well stated..point on!!

[joetheman]

41. Don't be too certain. COVID wants a word about it all. nt

[Kablooie]

42. Yes he will run because he wants to be the top of the news again.

He won't be tangled up in lawsuits and indictments because they affect his companies and others but will never touch him.

The news will again cover him 24/7 he will gain back his popularity and will have a good chance of winning again.

He never had a chance before but he won. Nothing to stop him doing it again.
It's going to be scary.

[Jon King]

50. I disagree, 2016 was totally different than 2024.

He had Twitter, he does not for 2024, that alone is a huge seas change against him. Demographics in the states that will decide, especially PA, MI, WI are totally going away from him. And he now has a track record of horrors he did not have in 2016.

He will not run. But if he did, he would lose by 15 million of more votes and likely lose NC in addition to the states he lost last time.

[RicROC]

45. I agree with Schmidt...

in his comment about the Pro-Democracy movement sleep walking into the 2022 election.

[PortTack]

55. I don't... ppl are terrified. A study of independents shows repukes scare them

The DNC is out raising the rnc, gop candidates that voted to convict tfg for second impeachment are far out raising the crazies that dotard is putting up against them.

Marcus Flowers is hauling in big money to go up against mtg..not sure he will win, but he deserves our support.

Too often, we succumb to narratives that are based on all the wrong parameters. Democrats are poised for a 2022 blowout win. Jonathan Alter is on point.

AND don’t say I’m not aware just because I’m pointing out what other pundits are saying..AND the facts!

[RicROC]

67. Thanks!

I needed a positive post like this! I haven't seen Jonathan Alter on MSNBC lately and have missed his commentary

[Elessar Zappa]

47. I think it'll be DeSantis.

Trump won’t run again.

[Jon King]

51. Agree 100%

I would take the bet all day long that Trump does not run and the nominee will be Desantis.

[Silent3]

80. If it is DeSantis, and he wins, we'd be in a worse situation

DeSantis is just as evil as Trump, but more competent and more self-disciplined.

[Elessar Zappa]

84. Agree.

But I don’t think he has the charisma to win nationwide.

[Pepsidog]

52. This scares the shit out of me. Terrifying.

[Half-step]

53. Let's assume that the TFG...

Is still capable of producing semi-articulated word salads in 2023 and somehow cinches the nomination (despite being banned from Twitter and Facebook). I suspect he would burn down during the presidential debates.

[PortTack]

57. Good point...not sure there would be any, but he will burn down trying to campaign

[SheilaAnn]

60. I would not be surprised if Ron DeSatan is the nominee. I doubt TFG has a chance. n/t

[peppertree]

63. I doubt Needy Amin will be alive by then

He'd be 78 - and with his 300 lbs and 230 cholesterol (plus diabetes), it's improbable to say the least.

[malaise]

64. He once thought Lady BlaBla could win

[salin]

71. Don't catch the reference... and feel like I am missing one heck of a joke.

[malaise]

72. Palin

[salin]

73. hahahahahahahahaha!

Appreciate that nic for her - it's perfect! I musta temporarily blocked her from my memory.

[malaise]

74. A DUer used it years ago and I stole it

[DallasNE]

68. How Will Things Play Out As The Trump Indictments Are Handed Down?

Since Schmidt didn't even mention it my guess is that Schmidt dismisses the indictments as any kind of obstacle. An indictment for tax fraud won't even be a speed bump, in my view. Nor will the hush money payments. In fact, they will probably help him out. But when you get to charges against the people then

[WarGamer]

75. *IF he wants it, he will be the nominee...

I'm not sure he wants it.

Moreover, he just wants revenge. I think if the GOP takes back the House they'll either make Trump Speaker of the House for long enough that he can tear up a SOTU speech behind Biden's back or at a minimum invite him to come speak to the House chamber or some BS like that.

(Yes I know the House is working on legislation making the Speaker an elected official so we'll see about that)

I think he'll pass the baton to the best ring-kisser.

No, I don't think it'll be DeSantis.

It's going to be Noem.

Younger, photogenic, Trump loving and loony as hell.

[Prichards115]

76. No fucking chance

He's over, put a fork in the dumb fuck hes done

[tinrobot]

78. He's a loser who is not gaining popularity at this point.

Don't be scared of him. He's a weak man.

[Grasswire2]

79. I do not think so. He will have deteriorated beyond feasibility by then.

He's decompensating daily. I don't see how three more years will not cripple him or kill him.

Yes, he will continue to do damage until he's slobbering with his chin on his chest and unable to walk.

But I think even Schmidt should see what's happening physically and mentally.

[scarytomcat]

81. We have proven that he is defeatable so bring it on.

He can't win in a fair election.

[Sympthsical]

83. Schmidt wants him to be the nominee

His livelihood is dependent on Trump and Trumpism these days. Call Trump a poopyhead, cash a check. (Still no idea where all that money went, Steve).

I do not imagine Trump will manage it. His real power is in being a kingmaker. To whom will he give his blessing?