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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:56 AM Jul 2021

Capitol Rioter Has Feces Thrown at Him in Jail

Heavy metal band Iced Earth’s guitarist Jon Schaffer, who pleaded guilty to charges related to the Capitol riot, had feces thrown at him and faced death threats during a hellish stint at an Indiana jail, according to his lawyer. The comments made during a March court hearing were revealed Thursday, prompting Schaffer’s transfer to a Washington, D.C., jail before he was released on bail in April. “My client, who is presumed innocent, has just gone through two months of hell where other people were throwing feces at him and urine at him and threatening his life in a horrible, horrible situation,” Schaffer’s attorney Marc Victor said at the hearing, according to the Indianapolis Star. Schaffer was segregated due to his public status but it led to prisoners tormenting him.

Schaffer, a self-described founding member of the Oath Keepers, became the first insurrectionist to plead guilty and cooperate with the feds. He is expected to face between 3.5-4.5 years in prison.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lawyer-says-iced-earth-guitarist-jon-schaffer-had-feces-urine-thrown-at-him-in-indiana-jail?ref=home

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Capitol Rioter Has Feces Thrown at Him in Jail (Original Post) kpete Jul 2021 OP
Another very good reason not to commit treason. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #1
Lol, exactly. Could you imagine what would have become of Bluethroughu Jul 2021 #13
No question. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #14
I don't think they realize at all just how pissed off the rest of us are Warpy Jul 2021 #43
The very reason "just how pissed off the rest of us are" KS Toronado Jul 2021 #47
I so hope you are right. That would restore a lot of my faith. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #65
I feel the same. Bluethroughu Jul 2021 #69
Is that worse than having a fire extinguisher thrown at someone? Rorey Jul 2021 #2
Poor dear... Glorfindel Jul 2021 #3
It didn't bother him on Jan. 6th? tanyev Jul 2021 #4
+1 nt Wicked Blue Jul 2021 #27
"People were throwing feces and urine at me." Sibelius Fan Jul 2021 #5
Prisons don't keep people safe, including people we don't like. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #6
Really. It's not the government's job to protect people! Beausoleil Jul 2021 #51
Ooh, I love this post. Traildogbob Jul 2021 #57
It's tempting, of course, but prison conditions are not a weapon to hurt people we don't like. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #63
There's a moral in this somewhere oswaldactedalone Jul 2021 #7
And that's just jail. alphafemale Jul 2021 #8
Sounds like the people in jail "get it" and or more patriotic than the Fox News crowd underpants Jul 2021 #12
People in there are going to sniff out wanna be "tough guys" pretty fast alphafemale Jul 2021 #15
⬆️ WA-03 Democrat Jul 2021 #32
wasn't there a post here recently about a letter from one of the proud or creepers niyad Jul 2021 #50
Bingo. paleotn Jul 2021 #41
I have a hard time believing that UpInArms Jul 2021 #9
Good one.... Escurumbele Jul 2021 #35
+1 dalton99a Jul 2021 #37
While I might enjoy the poetic justice, prisons shouldn't be like this Silent3 Jul 2021 #56
Look at wackenhut UpInArms Jul 2021 #61
The privatization of prisons is definitely part of the problem, but even government-run prisons... Silent3 Jul 2021 #64
I never want any person to brutalize another UpInArms Jul 2021 #67
Too fucking bad. No shits to give. Lochloosa Jul 2021 #10
You are wrong Traildogbob Jul 2021 #58
Maybe this helped motivate the traitor to plead guilty. Tennessee Hillbilly Jul 2021 #11
He plead guilty nearly immediately alphafemale Jul 2021 #17
Serves him right. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #16
Well, ain't that the shits... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #18
"Presumed innocent"? Didn't he just plead guilty? Beastly Boy Jul 2021 #19
Music critics? nt Buns_of_Fire Jul 2021 #20
when you wear the confederate flag, you deserve it. CurtEastPoint Jul 2021 #21
A Poser from Head to Toe! WA-03 Democrat Jul 2021 #34
So what's his beef? benfranklin1776 Jul 2021 #44
As part of his restitution... Dopers_Greed Jul 2021 #49
So even the rest of the prison population... Takket Jul 2021 #22
Key phrase in this story is "according to his lawyer". Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #23
Bingo! Sounds like BS. Nt ecstatic Jul 2021 #70
I bet he wouldn't hesitate to throw poo and pee at democrats or libs. nt Hotler Jul 2021 #24
Well they threw shit all over the building malaise Jul 2021 #25
No pity here. No pity for traitors. Regarding his profession... Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #26
Good. Prison Should Be An Uncomfortable Place So You Never Want To Go (Back) There COL Mustard Jul 2021 #28
Oh the poor insurrectionist blah, blah, blah... hot2na Jul 2021 #29
If they expected to be treated like heroes, surprise, surprise bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #30
I have a rabid belief in prison reform Tadpole Raisin Jul 2021 #31
Bless his heart Handler Jul 2021 #33
Sucks to be you. world wide wally Jul 2021 #36
He should respectively request the warden to put him in isolation. NCjack Jul 2021 #38
Oh no! SledDriver Jul 2021 #39
Sure he did. Iggo Jul 2021 #40
After... DemUnleashed Jul 2021 #42
Sounds like he can dish it out but he can't take it. Poor little bitch! Firestorm49 Jul 2021 #45
Indiana? Really? Need proof. LiberalFighter Jul 2021 #46
is there any evidence of these allegations? niyad Jul 2021 #48
Boo hoo sinkingfeeling Jul 2021 #52
He pleaded guilty. His not presumed innocent. WhiteTara Jul 2021 #53
If only there were some way durablend Jul 2021 #54
Earth to Jon... orwell Jul 2021 #55
Not so much of a bad ass now Mr. Schaffer? Betya the A.A. inside liked your stars and bars head gea Botany Jul 2021 #59
They don't like anti American terrorists in jail Johnny2X2X Jul 2021 #60
Yeah, but was it on fire? Kid Berwyn Jul 2021 #62
I think he and his lawyer should call Trump GoodRaisin Jul 2021 #66
I HOPE HE FACES PRISON TIME FOR 894765 years !!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Jul 2021 #68
Maybe they've heard his guitar playing (NFM) UnderThisLaw Jul 2021 #71
He'll do 4 years in federal prison Protective Custody hell for his treasonous Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2021 #72

Bluethroughu

(5,148 posts)
13. Lol, exactly. Could you imagine what would have become of
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:50 AM
Jul 2021

These people including the president and his GOP followers after that insurrection, if this had been ANYTIME prior to the sixties?

It would be more like death, and not poop.

Warpy

(111,230 posts)
43. I don't think they realize at all just how pissed off the rest of us are
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 11:12 AM
Jul 2021

that they tried to overturn our vote and install that fucking grifter as dictator. They're going to have a particularly miserable time in prison, the only gangs that will have them are far too hard core for squishy white bread suburbia doing cosplay in WalMart camo.

KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
47. The very reason "just how pissed off the rest of us are"
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jul 2021

is why I firmly believe we will dominate the 2022 & 2024 elections

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
2. Is that worse than having a fire extinguisher thrown at someone?
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:01 AM
Jul 2021

I have no sympathy for him. He was part of a violent insurrection, so he's getting just a bit of what he deserves.

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
4. It didn't bother him on Jan. 6th?
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jul 2021
Rioters left feces, urine in hallways and offices during mobbing of US Capitol
By Carl Campanile and Yaron Steinbuch January 8, 2021 | 12:18pm | Updated

They turned the US Capitol into a craphouse.

Some invading rioters defiled the hallowed seat of democracy with their dung in their ill-fated effort to overturn the election, a source close to incoming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) told The Post.

“Congressional staffers saw feces in the hallways,” the source said Friday.

The vile vandals apparently took dumps in bathrooms and then spread around their poop, a Schumer insider said.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/rioters-left-feces-urine-in-hallways-and-offices-during-mobbing-of-us-capitol/

Sibelius Fan

(24,395 posts)
5. "People were throwing feces and urine at me."
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:13 AM
Jul 2021

“What people?”

“Well for one, the attending clergy.”

😂😂😂

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
8. And that's just jail.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:29 AM
Jul 2021

You'd better give us something worthwhile information and names in your cooperation because prison will make jail seem like summer camp.

underpants

(182,734 posts)
12. Sounds like the people in jail "get it" and or more patriotic than the Fox News crowd
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:44 AM
Jul 2021

Of course he could just be a flaming asshole and he’d get some sort of treatment like this regardless of why he’s in there.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
15. People in there are going to sniff out wanna be "tough guys" pretty fast
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:59 AM
Jul 2021

Someone who is all talk and nothing to back it up will be on a pretty low rung of the pecking order.

I doubt the guy has much in the likes of fight in him if he is not with a crowd seeking to intimidate and bully.

niyad

(113,216 posts)
50. wasn't there a post here recently about a letter from one of the proud or creepers
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 11:30 AM
Jul 2021

about how he was getting weak and sick in jail? Poooooor widdle snowflake.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
9. I have a hard time believing that
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:36 AM
Jul 2021

Because some people are saying the peeps in jail are just acting like tourists

Silent3

(15,183 posts)
56. While I might enjoy the poetic justice, prisons shouldn't be like this
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 11:54 AM
Jul 2021

Prisons should be set up in such a way that it's incredibly difficult for prisoners to abuse each other. Otherwise our system is cruel and unusual punishment, with just a wink and a nod that we aren't directly responsible for it.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
61. Look at wackenhut
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 12:17 PM
Jul 2021
https://www.company-histories.com/The-Wackenhut-Corporation-Company-History.html

By the early 1980s, Wackenhut had grown to include more than 20,000 employees and over $200 million in revenue. At this time, the company sought to diversify its services, in part because of the low margins available through its guard and security services. Increasing competition, with over 10,000 security firms operating in the United States, were another factor in Wackenhut's efforts to diversify. Although the guard services would remain the company's core business, the company expanded to include strike support services, in which Wackenhut provided security and other services to allow companies to continue to operate while their workers were on strike. Another area Wackenhut attempted to develop was the privatization of emergency, police, and fire services, replacing communities' publicly funded services with its own trained personnel; however, this effort met with only limited success. In addition, Wackenhut continued to market its airport crash, fire, and rescue teams. Further acquisitions, in 1979 of Stellar Systems, Inc. in California, and in 1980 of Indentimat Corp. in New York, enabled Wackenhut to expand its high-technology security operations as well.

Wackenhut won several major government contracts in the 1980s. Its 1983 three-year, $81 million contract at the Savannah River Site in South Carolina was the largest paramilitary security contract ever awarded by the U.S. government. A $5 million, three-year contract in 1984 to create and manage the Department of Energy's Central Training Academy in Nevada continued to be held by the company through 1995, when it was renewed through the year 2000 for $58.6 million. Another significant, and lasting, contract began in 1986, when Wackenhut was awarded $25.3 million for security services at the DOE's Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

During the 1980s, financial pressures, as well as overcrowding, led to the privatization of increasing numbers of state and federal corrections facilities. Wackenhut ventured into this new market when WSI was hired to design, construct, and operate an Immigration and Naturalization Service detention center in Colorado in 1987. In the next year, Wackenhut formed Wackenhut Corrections Corporation (WCC) as a wholly owned subsidiary and received contracts for two 500-bed facilities in Texas. WCC went public in 1994, selling approximately 26 percent of its stock, with the remainder under Wackenhut Corp.'s control. By the end of 1994, the number of prison beds under its direction had totaled 14,000. With annual revenues of $105 million, consultant and construction fees generating an additional $80 million, and profit margins as high as 10 percent, corrections became one of the most successful areas of Wackenhut's business. Facilities under WCC's control included prisons in Australia, England, and Puerto Rico, as well as in six states in the United States, with ten facilities in Texas alone. A contract in December 1994 for the construction and management of a 1,300-bed medium-security prison in Florida provided WCC with $50 million, its largest contract as of that date.

Silent3

(15,183 posts)
64. The privatization of prisons is definitely part of the problem, but even government-run prisons...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jul 2021

...have had a big problem with prisoner-on-prisoner violence for a very long time, from well before privatization became a thing.

The sad truth is that too many of us like the idea that prisoners will brutalize each other to generate enough political will to change the system.

11. Maybe this helped motivate the traitor to plead guilty.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jul 2021

A guilty plea and cooperation usually leads to a shorter sentence.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
17. He plead guilty nearly immediately
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:01 AM
Jul 2021

He is being held to see how good his information is and that will determine the deal he gets.

Plead guilty to conspiracy. The info better be good.

Beastly Boy

(9,283 posts)
19. "Presumed innocent"? Didn't he just plead guilty?
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:08 AM
Jul 2021

If I were Jon Schaeffer, I would pay less attention to shit thrown at him, and fire his friggin incompetent POS lawyer. He is the actual piece of shit who can do some real damage to his client.

benfranklin1776

(6,443 posts)
44. So what's his beef?
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 11:12 AM
Jul 2021

The first pic shows he’s obviously used to being covered in shit so maybe they thought he likes it

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
49. As part of his restitution...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 11:24 AM
Jul 2021

That Gibson should be given to a better musician and human.

I suggest a guitarist from the "Democrat" party...

Takket

(21,550 posts)
22. So even the rest of the prison population...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:17 AM
Jul 2021

Is more patriotic than drumpf fans. I hope this is a preview of how their lives in prison are going to go.

Midnight Writer

(21,737 posts)
23. Key phrase in this story is "according to his lawyer".
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:36 AM
Jul 2021

We've witnessed the integrity of these Right Wing lawyers over the last few years.

If they say something, I don't believe it unless they can show me irrefutable evidence.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
26. No pity here. No pity for traitors. Regarding his profession...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:39 AM
Jul 2021

I'm a big fan of Metal. I'm aware of this guy's band.
I saw his band several years ago, at a festival. Iced Earth was a third tier act, at best. Four years ago, the local band I was in was to be the support act for them on a bill at a club here ( Chicago area). First, they didn't show up,. Second, there were no more people at that club that night than there would have normally been on a Saturday night.

COL Mustard

(5,893 posts)
28. Good. Prison Should Be An Uncomfortable Place So You Never Want To Go (Back) There
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:41 AM
Jul 2021

I'm not condoning prison violence, but this kind of shit (pun intended) is relatively mild from what I understand. I've never been behind bars and I don't ever intend to be. I just hope it's an uncomfortable enough experience for him and his ilk that they'll reconsider their future actions when they get out.

Also, since he's a felon, he can't vote and can't own a gun. Sweet!

hot2na

(357 posts)
29. Oh the poor insurrectionist blah, blah, blah...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:41 AM
Jul 2021
My client, who is presumed innocent, has just gone through two months of hell where other people were throwing feces at him and urine at him and threatening his life in a horrible, horrible situation,”


In other words; Welcome to F***ing jail you terrorist scumbag. If you were a law abiding citizen instead of a worthless piece of shit, you wouldn't be in that situation.

bucolic_frolic

(43,121 posts)
30. If they expected to be treated like heroes, surprise, surprise
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:42 AM
Jul 2021

I think it'll be more like embezzlers and wife-beaters. They tried to end our democracy.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
31. I have a rabid belief in prison reform
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:42 AM
Jul 2021

in many areas including how prisoners (assuming with guards looking the other way) to attack fellow inmates.

On the other hand….

And I actually feel guilty for feeling this way. Maybe I wouldn’t feel so guilty if a treasonous Congress critter ended up there.

Crap, more guilt.

orwell

(7,771 posts)
55. Earth to Jon...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 11:52 AM
Jul 2021

...Jail sucks.

That's why normal people try to avoid doing stupid things that sends them there.

Enjoy your stay...fascist moron.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
59. Not so much of a bad ass now Mr. Schaffer? Betya the A.A. inside liked your stars and bars head gea
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 11:59 AM
Jul 2021


BTW as noted up thread he has plead guilty so he is not presumed innocent.

Johnny2X2X

(19,021 posts)
60. They don't like anti American terrorists in jail
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 12:04 PM
Jul 2021

These people are traitors to America, they hate their country, that doesn’t fly in jail.

GoodRaisin

(8,921 posts)
66. I think he and his lawyer should call Trump
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 12:29 PM
Jul 2021

and wait for a return call, since he loves Trump enough to commit felonies for him. Then practice flinging poo to get ready for his return to prison.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
72. He'll do 4 years in federal prison Protective Custody hell for his treasonous
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 07:39 AM
Jul 2021

actions.

TFG's white supremacist insurrectionists who tried to trash our democracy and our country won't fare well in prison.

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