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George II

(67,782 posts)
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:07 PM Jul 2021

Ohio House primary reveals Democratic divides that could play out across the 2022 midterm map

Cleveland Heights, Ohio CNN —

A congressional primary in Ohio is revealing the generational and ideological fissures in the Democratic Party that have been largely hidden in the early months of Joe Biden’s presidency – but could burst into full view as the midterm elections approach.

Nina Turner, the former state senator and prominent surrogate for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaigns, is battling the establishment-backed Shontel Brown, the Cuyahoga County Democratic chairwoman and county council member, in a race that also features 11 other long-shot candidates bidding to represent the 11th District, which stretches from Cleveland south to Akron.

The August 3 primary comes ahead of a special election to replace former Rep. Marcia Fudge, who left the seat to join Biden’s Cabinet as secretary of Housing and Urban Development. The winner of the Democratic primary is all but certain to win the general election – a reality that has turned the contest into an intra-party struggle that could set the tone for more primary battles next year, as progressives target more veteran House members.

At a campaign stop for Turner on Saturday, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez told volunteers who were about to go door-knocking that the district represents a “very rare” chance for Democrats to chart a course for the party nationally without any concerns about electability.


Interesting interchange:

Turner has said repeatedly that she would be a “partner, and not a puppet.”

“For me, a partner is someone who comes to the table and negotiates and has difficult conversations,” Brown said. “A puppet is someone who entertains on a national stage and has catchphrases like ‘hello, somebody’ – with folks pulling their strings and giving them talking points.”


http://www.cnn.com/2021/07/25/politics/ohio-11th-district-race-nina-turner-shontel-brown/index.html

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Ohio House primary reveals Democratic divides that could play out across the 2022 midterm map (Original Post) George II Jul 2021 OP
Nothing but trouble padah513 Jul 2021 #1
I think it's a stretch to say Nina Turner Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #2
Agree completely! Most Dems are aware of her "politics" PortTack Jul 2021 #4
By then it may be too late question everything Jul 2021 #11
That's too complicated for the republican base to understand. Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #13
Looking forward to August 3rd AZProgressive Jul 2021 #3
I'm rooting for the candidate that did NOT call President Biden a half bowl of shit and then.... George II Jul 2021 #8
I doubt Nina Turner, even if she wins, represents a divide of any significance for the Democrats. Beastly Boy Jul 2021 #5
Totally agree wryter2000 Jul 2021 #7
I can't even place Turner on the left of the Democratic Party. Beastly Boy Jul 2021 #9
Exactly. n/t wryter2000 Jul 2021 #10
I think this is specific to her. Renew Deal Jul 2021 #6
I will not be surprised when, once elected, she will switch parties question everything Jul 2021 #12

padah513

(2,500 posts)
1. Nothing but trouble
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jul 2021

Never seen anyone with so much disdain for the Democratic Party so anxious to run as a member of the Democratic Party.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
2. I think it's a stretch to say Nina Turner
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jul 2021

could "play out across the map." She is an aberation and should be treated as such.

PortTack

(32,755 posts)
4. Agree completely! Most Dems are aware of her "politics"
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:20 PM
Jul 2021

The article really seems fanciful..at least to me

question everything

(47,470 posts)
11. By then it may be too late
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 06:09 PM
Jul 2021

I can see a nation-wide ad campaign by the Republicans showing her comment about the bowl of sh*t and the leftists endorsing her accompanied by an ominous voice: This is what elected Democrats are saying about the President, why should you vote for him?

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
13. That's too complicated for the republican base to understand.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 06:31 PM
Jul 2021

Easier to just say Biden is a senile communist. They will understand that even if it's not true. That's why that is what they have been doing.

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
3. Looking forward to August 3rd
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:30 PM
Jul 2021

I’m rooting for Nina Turner then I’ll relax and vote in the midterms for Democrats in Arizona.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. I'm rooting for the candidate that did NOT call President Biden a half bowl of shit and then....
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:38 PM
Jul 2021

....a FULL bowl of shit. The candidate who supported and voted for our Democratic Presidential candidate in the last two elections.

Beastly Boy

(9,310 posts)
5. I doubt Nina Turner, even if she wins, represents a divide of any significance for the Democrats.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:22 PM
Jul 2021

There will always be contrarians among the Democratic leadership, but they are few in numbers, and thy have a small role to play within the party. And this is good. For instance, if the 2020 presidential primary is any indication, they were actually instrumental, if not intentionally so, in uniting the Democratic Party around Biden.

What concerns me more is not the divisions among Democrats in the Primaries, but the divisions between Democrats and Republicans in Congress. The more evenly divided the Congress is, the more sway the radical voices on either side will hold. This is the scenario in which Nina Turner as Congresswoman can become disruptive. Just look at Manchin.

wryter2000

(46,037 posts)
7. Totally agree
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jul 2021

How many more Nina Turners are out there to staff one side of this "divide"? Sure, some of us are more vocally to the left than others of us. But that doesn't mean we have two warring sides.

Beastly Boy

(9,310 posts)
9. I can't even place Turner on the left of the Democratic Party.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:35 PM
Jul 2021

She is a disruptor and a provocateur, and her politics only marginally connect to those of the Democratic Party. Having said that, she is an exception rather than a divide, and does not represent any danger in maintaining the unity of the Democratic Party. On the contrary, her abrasive personality had already been shown to stimulate unity within the Democratic Party, if for no other reason than to oppose her brand of political activism.In this respect, she was shown to be a positive influence on the Party, and I suspect she can play a similar role if elected.

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
6. I think this is specific to her.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jul 2021

She doesn’t even represent left wing politics. She’s just another person that trashed Obama, Hillary, and Biden. Most Democrats don’t support that.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
12. I will not be surprised when, once elected, she will switch parties
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 06:12 PM
Jul 2021

Independent? Green? Yellow with red polka dots?

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