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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 07:22 PM Jul 2021

Anti-vaxxer Trumpy trolls beware: FACTS ahead!

So far, 341 million covid vaccine injections have been given in this country.

Using CDC figures, there have been about 3.5 million severe reactions to these vaccines. For the most part, these were anaphylaxis. Nearly all other reactions were termed either mild or moderate and included things like injection site pain, headache, fatigue and nausea. Severe reactions occurred in about ONE PERCENT of the injections.

Another medicine also has an adverse reaction frequency of about ONE PERCENT: aspirin!

The majority of this information came from an NIH website, PubMed.gov. I did do the math and the 3.5 million figure for anaphylaxis is an average. The NIH put the reaction frequency at between 2 and 5 million.

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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
2. If I have made an error, please point it out. I just rechecked my math and found the numbers
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 07:47 PM
Jul 2021

on the site mentioned.

???

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. I think your math is wrong
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 07:56 PM
Jul 2021

From the CDC report ...

"During December 14–23, 2020, monitoring by the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System detected 21 cases of anaphylaxis after administration of a reported 1,893,360 first doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine (11.1 cases per million doses); 71% of these occurred within 15 minutes of vaccination."
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm

“11.1 cases (of anaphylaxis) per million doses”

Using the figure of “341 million covid vaccine injections given”

11.1 cases (of anaphylaxis) per million doses times 341 million covid vaccine injections given
11.1 X 341
equals 3,785.1 reactions of anaphylaxis.

Not the 3.5 million severe reactions you posted.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
4. Your figure is better than mine, but the 3.5 million figure was, as stated, an average of
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:04 PM
Jul 2021

the 2 to 5 million case range I read on line, not the product of my math.

I'd be happy to use your figure.

It was difficult to find many general statistics, i.e., not just numbers for Pfizer or Moderna or J and J. I welcome any corrections to the statistics I did find.

zonemaster

(232 posts)
5. The numbers you're averaging are very wrong -
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 12:01 PM
Jul 2021

Per the CDC website:

"Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 2 to 5 people per million vaccinated in the United States."

The average of those rates would be 3.5 people per million vaccinated. That's a rate of 0.0000035, or 0.00035 %. Nothing anywhere near aspirin, if the latter really is 1%


Somewhere around 342 million vaccines have been given in the US, so far (163 million people fully vaccinated). Even if that 3.5-per-million people number were really 3.5 per million doses administered (which would be worse), we're talking about 342,000,000 X 0.0000035 = 1197 anaphylaxis events, total - thousands of times less frequent than your original post's rate.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
6. Thank you. I used numbers from several articles on NIH-tagged sites. If I misread one, I
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 12:06 PM
Jul 2021

apologize, but thought I was using reliable info..

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