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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRepub. candidate drove several miles with accident victim's motorcycle stuck to front of car.
The tragic loss of life for a 30-year-old motorcyclist is at the heart of the following news story. A peculiar detail is that a car driven by a Republican candidate for Pennsylvania governor apparently traveled for several miles with the victim's motorcycle stuck to the front it. The fatality occurred Wednesday, July 21, just before 10:00 PM. The location was the westbound lane of the Pennsylvania Turnpike in Eastern Pennsylvania. The investigation kept traffic at a standstill for seven hours.
https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/candidate-governor-says-he-did-not-cause-fatal-accident/3WZOFFFVHFE5XHVYMMSSLLZUPY/
COL Mustard
(5,871 posts)You know, stuff happens.
Old Crank
(3,532 posts)The get off excuse is I though it was a deer.
plimsoll
(1,667 posts)Strangest deer I've ever seen.
Vinca
(50,237 posts)motorcycle was obviously trying to push the car out of the way and the car spun around just happening to latch onto the motorcyclist and the Libtard slipped under the wheels of the car. See? Libtard's fault. (Boy, oh boy, would I love to be a fly on the wall when they interview this character about why he's not guilty of killing the motorcycle operator.)
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Vinca
(50,237 posts)moron will give for why he didn't stop and continued down the road with the motorcycle stuck to his car. It's got zero to do with motorcycles.
Pretty funny, yeah.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,678 posts)Maybe.
hatrack
(59,578 posts)Hey, if it works in SD, why not back east?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)the motorcyclist look like a drunken son of satan who was out raiding hell and harvesting souls until that good, godly republican ended satan sons rampage.
Blue_playwright
(1,568 posts)People react to extreme stress like this differently. Yes, stopping is what should happen. But folks with trauma or ptsd can react like this - or it can send someone into shock and they go into autopilot.
Lets see before we pile on.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,104 posts)Respectfully, NO.
As a rider myself, just NO.
Texin
(2,590 posts)In Texas a few years ago, a woman hit and killed a pedestrian who flew up onto the hood of her car. She proceeded to drive home, park in the garage with the man's body sticking out her front windshield and on the trunk and left him there for a couple of days before being forced by another person, or she herself finally gutted up the courage to turn herself into the police.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,055 posts)I wonder if they'll come up with some reason for not releasing his blood alcohol content.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I don't give a shit what turned this pig into a Reptilian; he has no excuse.
marble falls
(57,013 posts)... chugging down the road. He was trying to run scenarios before he had his turn in the barrel with the local constabulary.
He doesn't have a leg to stand on. He fled the scene of an injury accident he was a party to.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If the person is that fragile, he could run over a stop sign, panic then blast down a neighborhood street doing 90.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)there was a motorcycle on the front of their car.???? Not a bicycle, or even a body, but a motorcycle. He may not have caused the accident but was he driving a tank?? If you could not notice that difference in how your car was driving, you should not be driving.
But that is just my opinion.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)Witnesses commented on the sparks.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)durablend
(7,456 posts)plimsoll
(1,667 posts)The hood on new model trucks could easily obscure a motorcycle. Heck they can obscure smart cars for that matter.
Ford_Prefect
(7,872 posts)of alcohol or other substances, or the presence of a cell phone implanted in the driver's ear. There is no mention of other persons being present in the car nor what they may have been doing prior to or during the accident.
According to the source above very little info has been released at all. Given that there was a 7 hour long shut down of the highway you'd think more would be known by now.
But, you know Republicans in office don't have any legal restraints applied, do they? They are categorically immune since they are chosen by GOD, or GOP, no?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...or 7 hours of cleanup and destruction of evidence?
Ford_Prefect
(7,872 posts)and may not have been in best control of his judgement at the time of the incident. People are human and some things will push us into places we have no control over. A traffic accident certainly qualifies as such.
However, it seems to me that a remarkable amount of time transpired between the event and re-opening the highway, during which certain facts might have been established by conscientious persons.
Accidents are often a sequence of unpredicted events leading to a dreadful conclusion. I suspect at the very least the driver not only witnessed the collision but may also have seen his future re-written in a moment. Not exactly what a professional politician would have expected nor be prepared to assimilate, let alone one of GOP's chosen.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,872 posts)My intention was Ironic Observation and not to imply any excuses for the driver.
whopis01
(3,491 posts)I lived in once.
She broke the gate off and it got caught under her car. She kept going and got out onto the highway.
The police officer who pulled her over described seeing a car going down the road with a shower of sparks shooting out from underneath it.
The driver never noticed.
The drivers blood alcohol was about 3 times the limit.
Thats how a driver doesnt notice such things.
Mysterian
(4,568 posts)after running over, killing man on shoulder of road in the middle of the night, fleeing the scene.
https://www.keloland.com/keloland-com-original/ravnsborg-crash-what-we-know-about-how-it-happened/
In republican banana republic South Dakota, Ravnsborg is only charged with misdemeanors.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,104 posts)obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)I know for a fact I wouldn't. These people are degenerates.
bucolic_frolic
(43,062 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,789 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,789 posts)Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)he says he didn't cause it. Why did he not stop at the scene?
bluedevil4
(305 posts)I think Ive seen it all and then this 🤦♀️
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Not a laughing subject, just couldn't help myself.
Ligyron
(7,616 posts)There again, I dig gallows humor.
However, some people around here take things that are obviously a joke way too seriously.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)I sometimes laugh at serious stuff just to keep from getting depressed, but I try not to do it in front of the victims (including family, etc).
Danascot
(4,690 posts)doesn't mean he had anything to do with the accident.
There are many possible explanations.
Such as maybe the car was vaccinated and now attracts metal.
twodogsbarking
(9,678 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,516 posts)and it was sortof reported almost convoluted, initially making it like it was a "hit and run". But then one other version that I heard was something about "seeing sparks" and a "dragging" of the motorcyclist that was hit, but then the story stopped there.
But I heard nothing on the radio about the dragging having gone on "for several miles" although it was suggested here -
by Angela Couloumbis of Spotlight PA
Updated Jul 23, 2021
(snip)
Pennsylvania State Police are investigating the crash, which occurred shortly before 10 p.m. Wednesday on the portion of the turnpike that runs through Tredyffrin Township, authorities said. A State Police report on the incident made public Thursday does not name Gerow. It says only that the crash involved a Honda motorcycle and a Mercedes Benz 300, both traveling westbound on the turnpike. It did not identify the man who was killed. But on Friday, Chester County Coroner Christina VandePol identified the victim as Logan Carl Abbott, 30, of Bradford County.
In a statement Friday, State Police spokesperson Brent Miller said the investigation is active and ongoing, and his agency is trying to determine whether other vehicles may have been involved. The crash scene was large and the turnpike [westbound] was closed for approximately seven hours, said Miller. PSP still needs the publics help. Anyone who witnessed, has video, or other information regarding this crash is asked to contact the Troop T-King of Prussia station at 610-279-1605.
Nicholas Forgette, a highway construction worker who was working on the turnpike Wednesday evening, said he was on the opposite side of the highway when he saw Gerows car pass by with a motorcycle wedged into the grill of the car. In an interview Friday, Forgette said the first thing he noticed were sparks coming off a car that was traveling at a high rate of speed in the westbound lanes of the turnpike. He and members of his construction crew who were with him were dumbstruck, he said. Everyone was in disbelief, he said. That is not something you see every day. It was a big motorcycle, too.
There were a bunch of sparks. And it was very loud. Forgette, who works for a traffic control company in Pottstown, said Gerow was pulled over by State Police several miles from where he first saw him. He said Gerow was sitting on a guardrail, stone-faced and kind of disconnected. When he saw Gerows car, he said the motorcycle was sitting upright, with the side stuck into the front of the car. He said he left before the roadway reopened, but his crew members told him that Gerow was directed into the front seat of a cruiser and driven away from the scene.
https://www.inquirer.com/news/charlie-gerow-crash-turnpike-motorcyclist-20210723.html
Tiger8
(432 posts)His office says that "he didn't cause the accident and was not injured" which sounds like the Trump Defense at work.
Republicans love this Trumpian display of strength. Deny, Attack and FIGHT LIKE HELL, TO THE DEATH - with the entire GOP behind you. And as Q says, "All for One, and One for All." No matter what one member does, if everybody gets behind him, then nothing can defeat them.
I think this all started with Trump claiming "I could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue, and wouldn't lose votes." but hitting a motorcyclist with your car is tragic, but no less than beating up Capitol police officers.
Jilly_in_VA
(9,945 posts)The party of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY doesn't have any. Ever.
benfranklin1776
(6,443 posts)Not the first time a prominent PA Republican killed someone with his car and then didnt immediately stop to try to render aid to the victim.
https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/2016/09/29/thomas-druce-pennsylvanias-not-proud/
BGBD
(3,282 posts)and each time it was because the person driving away was so blitzed that they didn't realize it was even happening.
Odds are this guys BAC was .25.
Sober people who weren't at fault don't run from fatal accidents....especially with bodies or motorcycles stuck to their cars.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The motorcyclist was suicidal and lunged his motorcycle in front of the pricks vehicle and the prick didnt recognize that he had collided with a person on a heavy-assed motorcycle, so he drove on. That is what the AG is South Dakota is using.