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applegrove

(118,623 posts)
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 02:06 PM Jul 2021

Sanjay Gupta says CDC says if you are vaxxed you are still carrying around

Last edited Tue Jul 27, 2021, 03:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Delta viral load. This from the WSJ:

“However, researchers say that because Delta is so infectious it may be more transmissible than previous lineages and able to overcome the factor of lower viral shedding. Doctors and virologists say that vaccinated people are likely shedding less virus after getting a shot, but perhaps not as little as with other variants because Delta is known to be more contagious in general.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-delta-variant-and-covid-19-vaccines-what-to-know-11627079604

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/27/health/cdc-mask-guidance-vaccinated-people-bn/index.html

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roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. Most of the viral load in a vaccinated person may be neutralized virus.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 02:18 PM
Jul 2021

Initial infection surge then the spike antibodies may inactivate a sizable amount of the viral load.

That’s my theory.

I doubt a viral load test would discern between active and inactive virus.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
4. Except that's not what the CDC says
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 02:28 PM
Jul 2021

They say if vaccinated you have a reduced viral load and are infectious for a shorter period of time. However, because the Delta virus causes a much higher viral load it’s unclear if a reduction in viral load will translate to lower transmission ability.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
7. Here's several
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 02:37 PM
Jul 2021

Vaccine reduces viral load:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7

https://news.arizona.edu/story/covid-19-vaccine-reduces-severity-length-viral-load-those-who-still-get-infected

Delta

“However, researchers say that because Delta is so infectious it may be more transmissible than previous lineages and able to overcome the factor of lower viral shedding. Doctors and virologists say that vaccinated people are likely shedding less virus after getting a shot, but perhaps not as little as with other variants because Delta is known to be more contagious in general.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-delta-variant-and-covid-19-vaccines-what-to-know-11627079604

Native

(5,942 posts)
9. Here in Florida where every county with the exception of one has high transmission,
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jul 2021

I can guarantee you that the only people who will start wearing masks again are the people who are vaccinated.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
10. I am fully vaccinated but I never stopped wearing my mask when out in the community.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jul 2021

I just returned from a grocery store run and was pleasantly surprised to see a number of shoppers who were masked. Not a majority to be sure but my husband and I were definitely not the only ones wearing masks. The store staff were a mixed bag. Some masked, many not.

This was before the CDC announcement about recommending masks even for the vaccinated in doors in public places. I don’t have any idea how the announcement will be received but I imagine there will be a lot of confusion and grumbling. I figure every day is a learning experience for the doctors and scientists involved in this pandemic research. So just listen to the experts, do what they tell us and expect changes that may have to be reversed.

I live in NW Florida and many are not vaccinated. I have no problem wearing a mask, especially since our rates of illness and hospitalization are on the rise. I have no desire to roll the dice to see if I’ll be unlucky enough to get covid — mild or not. We still don’t know all the long term effects of Covid. Anything I can do to reduce my chances of getting it I will do. That includes getting a booster if it is recommended. I got the Moderna vaccine in February.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
12. I am contemplating ordering some more masks that give better protection.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 03:04 PM
Jul 2021

I looked on Amazon and may order some N-95s. Hopefully the CDC will tell us more about what we should do to be the safest — aside from staying home.

Deminpenn

(15,284 posts)
13. There is far too much theorizing going on
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 03:25 PM
Jul 2021

based on far too little evidence. It would be much better if the CDC said we don't know enough yet, but to be on the safe side, this is what we recommend.

It's no wonder people are confused and distrustful of information.

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
14. This has been one of the worst information campaigns
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 04:09 PM
Jul 2021

there's a lot of misinformation as to what the vaccine will do against the Delta.

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