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brooklynite

(94,266 posts)
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:43 PM Jul 2021

Justice Democrats find an enemy to fight: Speaker Pelosi

(fundraising email)

It’s the end of the month, which means that politicians are trying to raise as much money as possible for their campaigns and PACs before the fundraising deadline on the 31st. Here’s a look at one fundraising email Nancy Pelosi sent last week.

Nancy Pelosi and the rest of House Democratic leadership don’t have substance to sell, so instead, they are pushing fear-based fundraising tactics to raise money and push their status-quo agenda in Congress.

Racism, the climate crisis, and economic inequality are more of a threat to the American people than Donald Trump, yet Nancy Pelosi and corporate Democrats have failed to make any headway on issues actually affecting Americans.

The problem with these scammy fundraising tactics is that they work — and Nancy Pelosi and her team know it. But we promise Christian, that we’ll never deceive our grassroots supporters just to make a quick buck.


Perhaps they should share their track record in actually getting candidates elected?



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Justice Democrats find an enemy to fight: Speaker Pelosi (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2021 OP
Who is the mail raising funds for? Champp Jul 2021 #1
Responsible Dems should target GQPers lack of achievements gohuskies Jul 2021 #2
It cannot be asked enough: Why aren't they fighting Republicans? mcar Jul 2021 #3
Pelosi said "we need a strong Republican party" leftstreet Jul 2021 #7
No it's not mcar Jul 2021 #10
Only use I can see for the GOP is to keep Dems honest because they'll make a stink out of anything. rickyhall Jul 2021 #22
actually she is quite right dsc Jul 2021 #25
For The Same Reason, Ma'am, Isis Preferred Killing Shia To Killing Christians The Magistrate Jul 2021 #11
Yep mcar Jul 2021 #19
+1 betsuni Jul 2021 #24
I just got the same e-mail LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #4
Some people will wonder why we deign to accept these things... brooklynite Jul 2021 #9
I am amused by these emails LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #14
They sure contributed to what happened in 2016, and what we went through for the next JohnSJ Jul 2021 #5
Hopefully empedocles Jul 2021 #17
The Left Auxiliary Of The Christo-Fascist Right, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2021 #6
+++ JohnSJ Jul 2021 #8
K & R Budi Jul 2021 #26
Please please stop..our chances of holding the house are slim enough...we don't need dems PortTack Jul 2021 #12
That's what they do. They support Nina ("Biden is like a BOWL OF SHIT") Turner too. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #15
Yes empedocles Jul 2021 #18
Lol. The irony is rich in this one. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #28
Pretty sure I'm on their don't send list. ismnotwasm Jul 2021 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Grins Jul 2021 #16
Message: Donald Trump & Republicans aren't the real threat to progress, Democrats are. betsuni Jul 2021 #20
Pretty sure they don't understand the irony of calling others "corporate Democrats..." LanternWaste Jul 2021 #21
JD is Working AGAINST Democracy with Cha Jul 2021 #23
Well sure. It worked for the Repubs with Defund the Police & Socialist!! Budi Jul 2021 #27
That's one of their tamer emails recently. Reminder to all: these are the folks who want.... George II Jul 2021 #29
This is what Rep Cheney has to say about Pelosi.. Cha Jul 2021 #30
JustUs worked to replace two hardcore liberals with two moderates in the last election cycle. lapucelle Jul 2021 #31
Justice Democrats spent almost $1M in "dark money" against Eliot Engel.... George II Jul 2021 #32
JustUs successfully worked to replace a long-serving hard-core liberal with a centrist in that race. lapucelle Jul 2021 #33
In the case of the Engel/Bowman primary, they also produced a highly edited negative video and.... George II Jul 2021 #34
Access journalism... lapucelle Jul 2021 #35
Some people have said that he has, but I'm sure it's infrequent. I don't watch him much... George II Jul 2021 #38
I wish they'd put all that energy into securing voter rights! ananda Jul 2021 #36
They are still trying to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. Sigh.... nt joetheman Jul 2021 #37

Champp

(2,114 posts)
1. Who is the mail raising funds for?
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:48 PM
Jul 2021

The main thing in this email is DIVISION. Which leads to weakness.

Republicans and Russians may not get direct $ contributions from this, but they will reap benefit.

gohuskies

(1,153 posts)
2. Responsible Dems should target GQPers lack of achievements
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:49 PM
Jul 2021

Make them defend their obstructionism on every issue they have opposed to being responsible legislators.

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
7. Pelosi said "we need a strong Republican party"
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:52 PM
Jul 2021

Which Republicans are people supposed to fight?
It's confusing messaging


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mcar

(42,270 posts)
10. No it's not
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:54 PM
Jul 2021

She said "we need" a strong Republican party - not "we have."

Madame Speaker is correct - we do need a strong Republican party.

This has nothing to do with the OP or my response to it. Why are so-called Democrats constantly trashing other Democrats instead of going after Republicans?

dsc

(52,147 posts)
25. actually she is quite right
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 07:55 PM
Jul 2021

in any two party system, there is a reasonable likelihood that either of the parties will hold power. Having them in the thrall of a demagogue is transparently dangerous.

The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
11. For The Same Reason, Ma'am, Isis Preferred Killing Shia To Killing Christians
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jul 2021

Until heresy is banished and the people are pure, the real fight against (whatever it is in any particular case) cannot be won.

Blithering nonesense, but it comforts a certain sort of soul.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,842 posts)
4. I just got the same e-mail
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:50 PM
Jul 2021

I am the Just Us Democrats mailing list. Attacking Speaker Pelosi is not a good move. I want candidates who will work with Joe Biden and Speaker Pelosi and not candidates who are going to try to sabotage the efforts and priorities of the party

brooklynite

(94,266 posts)
9. Some people will wonder why we deign to accept these things...
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:53 PM
Jul 2021

Personally, I like to know what both my allies and enemies are doing.

(I'm also on Nina Turner's mailing list).

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,842 posts)
14. I am amused by these emails
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 06:08 PM
Jul 2021

The Just Us Democrats live in a different universe where regular or "corporate" democrats are bad people. I have spent over 15 years working inside party politics and I am amused by the term "corporate" democrat in that I practice corporate law.

I found today's email to be really amusing. I am not sure what are the policies and results that Just Us democrats think that they can accomplish in the real world

JohnSJ

(92,055 posts)
5. They sure contributed to what happened in 2016, and what we went through for the next
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:50 PM
Jul 2021

four years with trump

They are still at it, working hard to make mccarthy majority leader in 2022

Hopefully, people are much wiser now about false prophets






The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
6. The Left Auxiliary Of The Christo-Fascist Right, Sir
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:52 PM
Jul 2021



“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot.”



PortTack

(32,682 posts)
12. Please please stop..our chances of holding the house are slim enough...we don't need dems
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jul 2021

Working against Dems!!

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

betsuni

(25,351 posts)
20. Message: Donald Trump & Republicans aren't the real threat to progress, Democrats are.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 06:19 PM
Jul 2021

The first commandment of this ideology: believe all Democrats are immoral corrupt "corporate Democrats" who could easily pass progressive legislation if they wanted to, they just don't want to because they're all bribed (Republicans are innocent bystanders, apparently) and this is why Democrats must be replaced with True Progressive Justice Democrats who will transform the party. It's endlessly repeated. They really can't say anything without repeating this over and over. It's the foundation of the religion.

But who still believes that nonsense? Why?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Pretty sure they don't understand the irony of calling others "corporate Democrats..."
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 06:24 PM
Jul 2021

despite receiving money from the same players. Only goes to further illustrate the sanctimonious pandering this organization consistently uses.

And always and only at the expense of Democrats.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
23. JD is Working AGAINST Democracy with
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 06:46 PM
Jul 2021

their Gaslighting Divisive Pontificating.

The Democratic Party is on the Front Lines Fighting Against Fascism.

I'm sure the magats apporve of the JD's message to their subscribers.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
27. Well sure. It worked for the Repubs with Defund the Police & Socialist!!
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 08:06 PM
Jul 2021

Talking points & media memes become exchangable for the one purpose they both share.

#"2 Extremist Fringes meet in the middle & close that gap in the horseshoe"

They're really quite familiar with each other.

George II

(67,782 posts)
29. That's one of their tamer emails recently. Reminder to all: these are the folks who want....
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:13 PM
Jul 2021

....DEMOCRATS to support their candidates in primaries.

Sure, they'll "never deceive our grassroots supporters just to make a quick buck", but they never tell such grassroots supporters that they're now contributing to a Super PAC which will churn dark money into campaigns. They spent more than $900K against Eliot Engel last year in his primary against Bowman, and are probably now over $1M in the OH-11 primary.

They very deceitfully state this at the bottom of their contribution page:

You can make contributions of up to $5,000 per calendar year to Justice Democrats’ Contribution Account. Individual contributions will be allocated as follows: $5,000 per calendar year to a bank account that operates as a Federal PAC, and the remainder to the Non-Contribution Account of the PAC.


They pointedly avoid telling potential contributors that one of those two accounts is their Super PAC that can spend unlimited amounts of money for/against candidates.

Edited to add: regarding their "past performances", the last I looked they were running about 9% success rate. It's tough to keep up with it now because they're doing so badly that after an election cycle they take down their endorsements from their website and leave only their winning candidates.


Cha

(296,679 posts)
30. This is what Rep Cheney has to say about Pelosi..
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:47 PM
Jul 2021

who is on Nancy's 's Select Committee to get to the Truth on exactly how the Deadly Attack on January 6, 2020 happened.

It's toward the end.. but the whole thing is interesting, ino.



Cross posted from ..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=670393

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
31. JustUs worked to replace two hardcore liberals with two moderates in the last election cycle.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 10:44 PM
Jul 2021
"We’ll never deceive our grassroots supporters just to make a quick buck."


Cha-ching!



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Jamaal Bowman is a Moderate Liberal



Jamaal Bowman is a Moderate Liberal

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Cori Bush is a Moderate Liberal



Cori Bush is a Moderate Liberal

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If Nancy Pelosi represents the status quo, then the status quo is hardcore liberal.


Nancy Pelosi is a Hard-Core Liberal



Nancy Pelosi is a Hard-Core Liberal

https://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Nancy_Pelosi.htm
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George II

(67,782 posts)
32. Justice Democrats spent almost $1M in "dark money" against Eliot Engel....
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:43 AM
Jul 2021

...and they spent about $600K against incumbent Democrats.

Thankfully their success rate in primaries is still hovering around 10%.

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
33. JustUs successfully worked to replace a long-serving hard-core liberal with a centrist in that race.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:59 AM
Jul 2021

They exploit marginally informed voters with their false narratives and pocket some coin for themselves in the process.

It's disgusting the way they prey on idealistic new voters in order to profiteer.

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. In the case of the Engel/Bowman primary, they also produced a highly edited negative video and....
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:09 AM
Jul 2021

....ran it literally hundreds of times on Facebook, Twitter, and other social media as well as some local media.

This was the work of Bowman's campaign manager and Justice Democrats operative, Luke Hayes.

Luke Hayes happens to be the brother of Chris Hayes, which explains why Justice Democrats appear on his show 3-4 times a week.

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
35. Access journalism...
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 01:15 PM
Jul 2021

...does Chris Hayes disclose that his brother is an operative when JD appears?

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. Some people have said that he has, but I'm sure it's infrequent. I don't watch him much...
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jul 2021

...and the few times he's had JDs on his show I didn't see him do so.

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