Dr. Fauci explained why the mask recommendation on vaccinated people was made on Chris Hayes

[JohnSJ]

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Unlike the other strains, which are insignificant in the nasal passages of vaccinated people, the delta strain can remain in the nasal passages of vaccinated people, which won’t likely infect the vaccinated, but be transmitted to the non-vaccinated

I hope this is reported by the press, to shut jackasses like rand Paul’s misinformation up

Post three in this thread explained it clearer:

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What he said is that if you are vaccinated and get a breakthrough infection you have enough viral load to pass it on unvaccinated people.

He did not say that if you are vaccinated you can infect other people, only if you have gotten a breakthrough infection.

Now of course since some of these people might be asymptomatic, it is still very worrisome.”

[elleng]

1. Yes it should be reported, but a little complex for many to understand, imo,

especially difference between effect on nasal passages and lungs, conterintuitive.

[MiniMe]

2. True, but Rand Paul is a Doctor, he should understand that

I'm sure he does, but prefers to act dumb

[elleng]

4. Recall his 'dispute' with Dr. Fauci about meaning of some medical/scientific facts?

He sure does a good job acting dumb.

[tblue37]

5. Nah. I think it's the one time he's being honest. He really is dumb.

[JohnSJ]

6. Actually he is not certified, and created his own certification "standard"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rand-paul-ophthalmology-certification-scandal-why-it-matters

“ his lack of standard certification as an ophthalmologist and its relationship to his self-anointing and self-created National Board of Ophthalmology”

Anyone who sees Paul for their eyes, is gambling

He is a con man

[Blue_true]

10. Rand Paul is a specialist Doctor (Ophthalmologist or Optometrist).

He knows nothing about Virology at the level that Dr. Fauci and the Doctors at the CDC do.

[drray23]

3. not exactly what is said.

What he said is that if you are vaccinated and get a breakthrough infection you have enough viral load to pass it on unvaccinated people.

He did not say that if you are vaccinated you can infect other people, only if you have gotten a breakthrough infection.

Now of course since some of these people might be asymptomatic, it is still very worrisome.

[JohnSJ]

8. Thanks. How many asymptomatic people would get a test? I am going to copy and paste

your wording in the OP

THANKS

[AlexSFCA]

7. can asymptomatic vaccinated person infect other vaccinated people?

this is what I’d like to get clarity for delta variant. I don’t personally know anyone not vaccinated so I haven’t been cautious around fully vaccinated folks but now I am concerned.

[JohnSJ]

9. He is saying you can be a carrier if you have a breakthrough infection, and if you are asymptomatic

You pies a risk to unvaccinated people mostly

[Blue_true]

11. What Scientists have found is that the Delta variant is so virulent,

that even a fully vaxxed person who catches it can pass it on (and they may not notice that they are).

[AlexSFCA]

12. pass it on to another vaccinated person?

[KentuckyWoman]

15. Yes.

Pass it, yes but not enough data to state the chance. Put them in a hospital? Maybe, but very small chance most likely.

[Blue_true]

16. To anyone.

Unless the other vaccinated person is immunocompromised, they should be ok. Unvaxxed people and children under 12 years old may not be ok.

I believe that even if your are vaxxed wearing a mask as much as possible when around others is a good idea.

[littlemissmartypants]

18. Yes. Delta has 1000 times the viral load of Alpha according to a study done in NSW.

This data is holding true with the exponentially growing number of cases. Masks equally protect you and others.

We don't just need to wear them to protect ourselves (vaccinated or not) they also provide protection for others (vaccinated or not) by helping stop the spread in cases of asymptomatic carriers.

Delta, according to the NSW study, is easily passed by fleeting contact with an infected person. The mask is the first line of defense in these cases, which make up more than 80% of cases in some places.

[KentuckyWoman]

13. Vaxxed asked to wear masks to save unvaxxed

If I have it asymptomatic and pass to unvaxxed, they could die. As a patriotic American and caring citizen of the world, I am willing to do my part.

Not to mention all the medical staff having to gear up again - with an even deadlier variant. I hope we don't break them.

[Ms. Toad]

14. Except that it does infect the vaccinated.

The 6/55 in the Texas delegation - AND the 2 vaccinated aides in the WH and Pelosi's office - that they are telling us about (at least one report indicated there were more they were not telling us about.

[crickets]

17. K&R for the post and the discussion.