Here is an idea about a voluntary national vaccine passport.

[boston bean]

Make an app. Allow people who want to sign up for it..prove their vaccination, and then businesses can use it to allow verify vaccination.

I would sign up for it in a heart beat.

[luv2fly]

1. Something like this maybe?

I believe I heard about this on the Thom Hartmann show yesterday or the day before.

https://www.clearme.com/healthpass

[Blues Heron]

2. or just show the card they gave you and go to jail if it's fake

[USALiberal]

3. And how do they determine it is fake?? Nt

[Blues Heron]

5. Name doesn't match, logo looks funny, etc There's always a telltale sign.

same as fake IDs at bars. Lets not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Few people will actually be forging these federal documents because of the stiff penalties for that, most will try to borrow someone else's card.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

6. the actual blank cards are available online for download

There isn't a need to make fake ones when there are PDF versions of the actual card available online for a while now. Tennessee was one of the states that had it available on their state health website. Its been removed. I believe other states had them up as well.

[Blues Heron]

7. what about the stickers - no sticker is another telltale sign

paper stock - another telltale sign. Forging just isn't for everyone, esp if the law has teeth.

They already caught some fool selling vax cards out of his bar in- Oregon? Cant remember the state. Anyway forging a federal document is a serious offense. Most people will just get the jab rather than risk going to jail.

Again - lets not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[SoCalNative]

8. What stickers?

I don't have stickers of any kind on my card.

[Blues Heron]

10. Vax batch stickers

Mine has two- one for each dose.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

11. the stickers weren't used everywhere

Its pretty random here in Michigan if you got a sticker or if they just wrote the number down. Mine is written, my wife's is a sticker for one and written down for the 2nd dose.

[Blues Heron]

12. I think this paranoia about forging is overblown

Requiring the cards is certainly better than doing nothing. Definitely lock up anybody that tries to fake or lend their card, etc.

[SoCalNative]

14. That was hand written in

by the pharmacists who gave me the shots at Walgreens. So even stickers are not an accurate way to tell fake vs. real cards.

[Blues Heron]

16. Nothing's perfect but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop the spread

I do think the paranoia about forging is overblown.

[Ms. Toad]

17. CVS, at least in our area, was not giving stickers.

So the lack of a sticker is NOT an indication it is a fake.

[Tanuki]

4. Not everyone has a smart phone.

[Dorian Gray]

9. NY has one

but businesses aren't utilizing it all that much. Some theaters and when the nets were in the playoffs, barclays utilized it. But not restaurants or anything else.

[Zeitghost]

13. Very few businesses would participate

They don't want to put employees in a position to check and then grant or deny access. It creates safety issues, costs money, creates entrance lines and alienates customers.

[SoCalNative]

15. QR scanner at the door would do the trick

in states where there has been a system created. In CA the record has a QR code that could be scanned prior to entry, no employee interaction involved.

[flotsam2]

18. They (the GOP) want voter iD

and we want vaccine passports. My solution would be a combined single document valid as voter ID and listing vaccine status AND using biometrics to be a valid US ID for flying and travel. It should be offered free and available from local offices and be completely voluntary. I'm ready for a national ID card but support the GOP's right to look and act like ignorant assholes and refuse the card.