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"There is no crisis at the border wall." (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2021 OP
Yeah right! He clearly missed all them people running by him using Klingon cloaking devices. nt Carlitos Brigante Jul 2021 #1
GQP are masters at manufactured outrage MagickMuffin Jul 2021 #2
What does the data state? martingale73 Jul 2021 #3
Do you understand the difference between an immigrant and a refugee? gratuitous Jul 2021 #4
Obviously they also don't understand what "apprehended" means. Nevilledog Jul 2021 #5
Just one question NickB79 Jul 2021 #6
yeah, nice try Kali Jul 2021 #8
What does AP Say? martingale73 Jul 2021 #7
 

martingale73

(13 posts)
3. What does the data state?
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 04:22 PM
Jul 2021

Let's use data to judge how things are at the border:
[link:https://www.axios.com/migrant-release-no-court-date-ice-dhs-immigration-33d258ea-2419-418d-abe8-2a8b60e3c070.html|
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[link:https://www.axios.com/border-arrests-1-million-20-year-record-june-c96abef1-a372-4258-bffd-9c69200d4dd6.html|


* Border agents have arrested 1 million undocumented immigrants since October of last year (most since 2006)
* 178,000 arrested in June 2021 (highest in 20 years)
* ICE will be releasing 50,000 undocumented immigrants without a court date.

Is this a crisis? It would depend on your views of immigration. If you want an orderly, equitable immigration policy, then we have crisis if not catastrophe. If you want close to unregulated immigration from Central America, this is progressing towards your goal.

I find this policy ethnically biased and unjust. I work with many individual who immigrate to the US legally and take over a decade to get their green card. Many of them will not get sponsorship and will be forced to leave the US moving back to India and China. I don't want to prevent people fleeing violence in Honduras, El Salvador and such, but why should those immigrants move ahead in the citizenship process from individual from Asia who came here legally?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Do you understand the difference between an immigrant and a refugee?
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 04:30 PM
Jul 2021

"Gee, I've been waiting an hour to see the doctor and they wheeled that gun shot victim right into surgery!"

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
6. Just one question
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 04:54 PM
Jul 2021

Why, in any kind of fair system, does it take A DECADE to become a legal immigrant? Boatloads passed thru Ellis Island in days.

Maybe you're looking at this issue from the wrong perspective.

 

martingale73

(13 posts)
7. What does AP Say?
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 05:02 PM
Jul 2021

[link:https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-immigration-health-coronavirus-pandemic-government-and-politics-3b4e480c9021e6a8e02313f4c73a497e|

“It’s almost like ‘Groundhog Day,’” said Southern Poverty Law Center attorney Luz Lopez, referring to the 1993 film in which events appear to be continually repeating. “Here we are back to a point almost where we started, where the government is using taxpayer money to build large holding facilities ... for children instead of using that money to find ways to more quickly reunite children with their sponsors.”

[link:https://www.rollcall.com/2021/07/07/whistleblowers-detail-poor-hygiene-for-migrant-kids-at-texas-site/|

The whistleblowers, two lawyers named Laurie Elkin and Justin Mulaire who worked at the shelter from mid-May to early June, said children were not given enough clean underwear and were forced to sleep in tents that “were dirty and often had a foul odor,” at times smelling of sewage.

“After witnessing the dire conditions at Fort Bliss, we feel it is our obligation to speak out. Regardless of one’s views about immigration policy, the reality is that these unaccompanied children are here now and are in U.S. custody. HHS must act now to ensure the children are treated in a safe and humane manner,” Elkin and Mulaire said in a joint statement Wednesday.

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